RIRA Man shot dead in broad daylight

Yamanoto · 05-09-2012 02:09AM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

Why dont you go up and ask them instead of posting on an internet forum about ''Sympathy'' If you have nothing good to say dont say anything at all.

'Sympathy' was used in relation to your line of argument, I'm surprised that needs to be spelled out. As for posting on an internet forum, your contributions on thread would appear to outnumber mine by a considerable margin.

Given the subject matter at hand, it'd be odd to expect a hushed and eulogistic love-in.

Vicar in a tutu · 05-09-2012 02:11AM

Yamanoto wrote: »

'Sympathy' was used in relation to your line of argument, I'm surprised that needs to be spelled out. As for posting on an internet forum, your contributions on thread would appear to outnumber mine by a considerable margin.

Given the subject matter at hand, it'd be odd to expect a hushed and eulogistic love-in.

My contributions arent full of hatred about the man

Yamanoto · 05-09-2012 02:15AM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

My contributions arent full of hatred about the man

Was mine?

Vicar in a tutu · 05-09-2012 02:24AM

Yamanoto wrote: »

Was mine?

Maybe not as much as others no, But there's alot of hatred directed at him, he worked his ass off to eradicate drugs, and also done alot of campaigning for the pows, He was a good man and its not fair for anyone to say he was a scumbag without meeting the man. The media love nothing more to sell papers, If he was such a scumbag why are there so many people devastated? why are so many people defending him? maybe not here but in the real world they are, He will be missed, a terrible loss.

The Radiator · 05-09-2012 02:25AM

RIRA is bad

Yamanoto · 05-09-2012 03:01AM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

He was a good man and its not fair for anyone to say he was a scumbag without meeting the man.

Perhaps you found him so. As the majority of folks did not have the chance to make his acquaintance, they must rely on facts such as his conviction at the Special Criminal Court in 2001 and the fact he was facing a charge for alleged extortion when he met his end. Good people are capable of terrible acts, just as evil men can engage in acts of kindness.

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

If he was such a scumbag why are there so many people devastated? why are so many people defending him? maybe not here but in the real world they are, He will be missed, a terrible loss.

Because it's upsetting to lose someone close to you, that's universal. I'd imagine many wept for Martin Cahill or Timothy McVeigh. A family's love tends to be unwavering and unconditional, but that in itself does not by definition make a person good.

Beigemale · 05-09-2012 03:06AM

Yamanoto no crimnals can oblect as that gives their line of work away its a 1 sided story

Yamanoto · 05-09-2012 03:15AM

Beigemale wrote: »

Yamanoto no crimnals can oblect as that gives their line of work away its a 1 sided story

Come again?

cunny funts · 05-09-2012 03:23AM

Bad or good a mother and father have lost a son. Things he done and was involved in were been very wrong. But hes gone now, nothing changes that

getzls · 05-09-2012 03:29AM

The cost of a bullet well spent.

And i know the Mods won't like me posting that but they might even agree with my post.

Monty Burnz · 05-09-2012 07:16AM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

Ah come off it, how do you know he was doing it? apart from news articles? His family and friends are now going through a very tough time and dont need to be reading all this blood thirsty crap about him, He's dead and not coming back, its tragic and I wouldnt wish it on anyone.

If they don't want to read about what people are saying about a dead criminal member of a terrorist group, a drug profiteer, an extortionist, and a thug, then perhaps they should read some of the many other threads available on this fine website? It's not like people are shouting it in their letterbox.

And has been pointed out, you could stop bumping the thread with your frankly hilarious claims that he was a great guy and loved by all.

Firing Squad · 05-09-2012 07:41AM

R.I.P. Always sad to hear of anyone killed like this.

galwayrush · 05-09-2012 07:50AM

A vile criminal is dead, good riddance.

Davidth88 · 05-09-2012 08:24AM

reading this thread is quite amusing sorry I mean pathatic.

Is anyone else fed up with criminal gangs covering themselves with some sort of legitimacy by calling them silly names like ' Real ' IRA or whatever.

Lets call a spade a spade , the RIRA are nothing but a criminal gang who pretend they have a political motive. I don't for one second think any of these organisations gangs represent the large number of real Republicans out there who actually work for a living and try to make this country a good place to live

Reading some of the posters here you would think the victim was a paragon of virtue , I don't for a second think he was. The only drug dealers he ' chased out of town/ dealt with ' were the people who didn't give him a cut ( and some to his ' organisation ' . Legit businesses were bullied if they didn't ' employ ' his thugs on the door.

As for ' loving the country ' I am sure he loved it every week as he collected his dole , used his medical card , sponged in every way he could off the state he worked to undermine .

I do feel sorry for his family , but be clear they lost a son/brother or whatever when he decided that being a criminal beat doing productive and real work.

Wozzaah · 05-09-2012 08:48AM

I read a few comments saying ''You never met the man, So you should not comment, He was a great man'' Sure we never met hitler and he was supposed to be a great man according to his cronnies, yet he was responsible for the murder of 6 million innocent people...

Dyr · 05-09-2012 08:57AM

Wozzaah wrote: »

I read a few comments saying ''You never met the man, So you should not comment, He was a great man'' Sure we never met hitler and he was supposed to be a great man according to his cronnies, yet he was responsible for the murder of 6 million innocent people...

*claps*

Monty Burnz · 05-09-2012 08:58AM

Bambi wrote: »

*claps*

If you can't refute a point, you might as well applaud it.

Cienciano · 05-09-2012 09:01AM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

Ah come off it, how do you know he was doing it? apart from news articles? His family and friends are now going through a very tough time and dont need to be reading all this blood thirsty crap about him, He's dead and not coming back, its tragic and I wouldnt wish it on anyone.

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

Why dont you go up and ask them instead of posting on an internet forum about ''Sympathy'' If you have nothing good to say dont say anything at all.

I suppose you were one of the people saying the same thing when charley haughey died. The guy was a scumbag, being dead doesn't change it.

05-09-2012 09:27AM

I've got to laugh at all the new registrations on here calling for this to be a sympathy thread.
"The Fighter", "Firing Squad" etc etc.:pac:
This isn't a sympathy thread lads, this is AH.

There were death threats to Paul williams and AK on facebook yesterday after they discussed this topic, so you know what type of people you are arguing with.

Opie · 05-09-2012 09:29AM

Whatever this fella is alleged to have done, some of the stuff being said about him here is very disrespectful. Not to him, lets be honest there is no smoke without fire, but to his family. I'll say now that i didnt know him, or his family, and I'm neither a republican or a criminal. I just think that some of the things his Mother must be reading about her son a couple of days after he was shot dead in broad daylight must be very hard for her. Also any nieces or nephews having to hear about it is very hard. I dont know the mother, but I'm sure she didnt raise him to become a criminal and she certainly couldn have raised him to die at 32, in the way he did.

In my family, I have an uncle who is a junkie and a thief, an absolute dirtbag if I'm honest, and my Gran did not raise him that way, as her other 4 kids were ok. If he was found dead in the gutter tomorrow, i would shed no tears for him, and would understand people who he robbed from saying "Good enough for him", but i wouldnt want my Gran or young cousins to have to hear it. I know this is a diferent case altogether, but just trying to say that the actions of a son, should not be used to beat the mother. Rant over...

Mr Benevolent · 05-09-2012 09:30AM

Just found out I live 400 meters from where he died. Clongriffin is rapidly gaining a certain unsavoury reputation. Still wouldn't move though, apart from the occasional murder it's fine.

humanji · 05-09-2012 09:35AM

My name is URL wrote: »

C'mon man... did you read the second last post of that thread? It doesn't matter how old it is, or when it was closed, or who was mod at the time. It perfectly demonstrates the very human aspects and effects that these things have on people and most importantly, on families.

You mentioned libel earlier. Is that the only thing that Boards considers these days? 'The dead can't sue' kind of thing... to hell with empathy and common human decency like. I'll dance on his grave while his family look on.

Should we lock all threads that might affect someone somewhere at sometime? On the condolences thread in feedback it was brought up about what should be done when Margaret Thatcher dies. Should we stop anyone from saying anything bad about her in case a family member reads it?

If you lead a bad life, then you've no one but yourself to blame if people don't have a lot of good things to say about you. But those here who actually revel in the death are merely showing themselves up as being both pathetic and short-sighted in what this will possibly escalate to. I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to embarrass themselves.

twowheelsonly · 05-09-2012 09:40AM

latenia wrote: »

This guy was a fckng scumbag and I sincerely doubt some gang of Jacintas has the ability to track me down.

Then you sir are extremely naive. Not all of these criminal gangs are filled with thick knuckle dragging baboons. Quite a few of them would be quite capable of tracking you down by this evening, telling you how much you have in the bank right now and letting you know your tax liability for this year.

Boombastic wrote: »

Would these be the distraught innocent brothers and family?

Harsh. With all of the talk and reports there is no mention of his family being involved in crime and undoubtedly they are distraught at this time.

You can't be blamed for the sins of your brother. I had a brother in the Army - doesn't mean that I know how to use a gun. Likewise had a brother in the Navy - I definitely couldn't sail a ship!! Unlikely that his Mother sent him out to do the things that he did either. That was his own decision. If we all did what Mammy told us when we were younger then we'd all be Engineers/Doctors/Solicitors now!! But we don't, we all do our own thing and make our own choices.

Dionysius2 · 05-09-2012 09:40AM

Davidth88 wrote: »

reading this thread is quite amusing sorry I mean pathatic.

Is anyone else fed up with criminal gangs covering themselves with some sort of legitimacy by calling them silly names like ' Real ' IRA or whatever.

Lets call a spade a spade , the RIRA are nothing but a criminal gang who pretend they have a political motive. I don't for one second think any of these organisations gangs represent the large number of real Republicans out there who actually work for a living and try to make this country a good place to live

Reading some of the posters here you would think the victim was a paragon of virtue , I don't for a second think he was. The only drug dealers he ' chased out of town/ dealt with ' were the people who didn't give him a cut ( and some to his ' organisation ' . Legit businesses were bullied if they didn't ' employ ' his thugs on the door.

As for ' loving the country ' I am sure he loved it every week as he collected his dole , used his medical card , sponged in every way he could off the state he worked to undermine .

I do feel sorry for his family , but be clear they lost a son/brother or whatever when he decided that being a criminal beat doing productive and real work.

To understand eejits like this guy, one needs to understand the culture from which he sprang. There, a different truth obtains.
Truth, in that environment, is that which represents the interests of the speaker.

FindingMimo · 05-09-2012 10:02AM

For those who want to live that life, I say - throw them all in an enclosed battlefield and give them a load of weapons.

Hannibal Barca. · 05-09-2012 10:05AM

Kind of sad to see the support this guy actually has. He was a IRA terrorist. Why show any sympathy? He was in a organisation which was more than happy enough to kill a young police officer for no other reason than he was a Catholic. Scumbags the lot of them.

Dyr · 05-09-2012 10:41AM

Monty Burnz wrote: »

If you can't refute a point, you might as well applaud it.

I'm going to bother arguing with someone who just godwinned themselves off the map? I'd rather applaud.

Red_Wake · 05-09-2012 10:42AM

Did he leave behind any kids?

Ash.J.Williams · 05-09-2012 10:46AM

Bambi wrote: »

I'm going to bother arguing with someone who just godwinned themselves off the map? I'd rather applaud.

I'm not even sure Hitlers cronies said he was a decent chap!!:)

05-09-2012 10:51AM

Red_Wake wrote: »

Did he leave behind any kids?

A ladies man usually does.
Feel sorry for them if he did.

RIRA Man shot dead in broad daylight

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