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Pathetic Anti-Irish sectarianism thriving in West Scotland

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  • #152
    Monty Burnz
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    No, it's not 'snap'.

    Britain has oppressed, up to very recent history the people of this island.
    So...not any more then?


  • #153
    getz
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    grenache wrote: »
    This.

    Birmingham makes Glasgow seem like paradise. It's like a miserable giant concrete slab.
    it may be dull,but it doesent stop 70,000 irish people living there,


  • #154
    dlofnep
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    So...not any more then?

    The flag has not changed. By your argument, Jews should no longer have any emotional predisposition to Nazi flag, because they are no longer being oppressed. Do you see how ridiculous your argument is?


  • #155
    Hannibal Barca.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5 ✭Hannibal Barca.


    dlofnep wrote: »
    According to the article, it's not merely an attack on a rival soccer team or Republicans, but Irish Catholics as a whole also. It is absolutely sectarian in nature.

    So is it just a dislike of colour, or is it an act of sectarianism?
    Evidence of this? Or did you just make it up?


  • #156
    getz
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    No, it's not 'snap'.

    Britain has oppressed, up to very recent history the people of this island. That is a documented fact. You're going to have to accept the idea that many people are still not prepared to hoist up the flag of a nation, that allowed it's soldiers to gun down innocent civilians, and then never hold them accountable for doing so - or a state that systematically gerrymandered a state to remove any political power from the nationalist population. (A few of many events that occurred under the banner of the Union Flag).

    I'm not arguing that you at a personal capacity have to reject hoisting the Union Flag. I'm arguing that there is a legitimate case for people who don't wish to do so, and that it no way, shape or form could be compared to breaking green traffic lights.
    oppressing the irish people ? ,strange considering six million irish born citizens [and going up] have decided to make the UK home,they must be a strange race,either that or you are living in your own little world


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  • #157
    Sin City
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    Interracial love

    rangers-celtic.jpg


  • #158
    Monty Burnz
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    The flag has not changed. By your argument, Jews should no longer have any emotional predisposition to Nazi flag, because they are no longer being oppressed. Do you see how ridiculous your argument is?
    Exactly which country uses the Nazi flag? Do you see how ridiculous your argument is?


  • #159
    Hannibal Barca.
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    Comparing the Union flag to the Nazi flag, goodness me. The thousands of black and Jewish people and people of all colours and creeds in the UK and it gets compared to a flag which was anti all that. Possibly the worst argument of all time.


  • #160
    grenache
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Wacker The Attacker wrote: »
    Glasgow is a kip. The dreariest city in the uk by quite some distance.

    You've obviously never been to Middlesbrough or Slough.
    I'll take your Middlesbrough, and raise you..............Hull!

    http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/images/localpeople/ugc-images/275786/Article/images/15770587/3691308.png


  • #161
    Fratton Fred
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    I don't see any anti Irish slogans either, just a dislike for a colour worn by a rival football team.
    According to the article, it's not merely an attack on a rival soccer team or Republicans, but Irish Catholics as a whole also. It is absolutely sectarian in nature. So is it just a dislike of colour, or is it an act of sectarianism?

    The article tries to imply that, to add a bit of outrage factor, but it doesn't actually state that.


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  • #162
    thomasj
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    Sin City wrote: »
    Interracial love

    rangers-celtic.jpg

    That goes back to when Ntl was with us as was old firm games!


  • #163
    getz
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    grenache wrote: »
    I'll take your Middlesbrough, and raise you..............Hull!

    http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/images/localpeople/ugc-images/275786/Article/images/15770587/3691308.png
    i was one going to relocate with my company to hull,true the city is a mess,but those villages on the out outskirts are a dream,nearly bought a house in beverly over looking the racecourse


  • #164
    Pal
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    JohnMarston wrote: »
    I'm baffled as to why the average scot would have a beef with the Irish

    Me too. I thought we were on the same side in Braveheart.

    ASDA goes blue in Larkhall.
    I kid you not.
    http://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/the-lovely-town-of-larkhall.827734/


  • #165
    TheBuilder
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    dlofnep wrote: »

    According to the article, it's not merely an attack on a rival soccer team or Republicans, but Irish Catholics as a whole also. It is absolutely sectarian in nature.

    So is it just a dislike of colour, or is it an act of sectarianism?

    Really? Where is the proof its an attack on Irish Catholics? Are the traffic lights Irish Catholics? Is the subway sign an Irish catholic?

    To say its absolutely sectarian in nature is bull****, because you clearly have no proof other than that over exaggerated article.

    The west of Scotland has become a haven for over exaggerated bull**** like this, with Rangers and Celtic used by the media and politicians as an excuse for societal problems.

    This isn't an attack on Irish Catholics, it's simply an immature dislike of all things green, because being such a large rangers supporting area, they hate Celtic.

    Unfortunately, things aren't allowed to be simple anymore, everything is sectarian or bigoted or racist. It might be very immature, but this is simply just a dislike of the colour green.


  • #166
    Madam
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    TheBuilder wrote: »
    This isn't an attack on Irish Catholics, it's simply an immature dislike of all things green, because being such a large rangers supporting area, they hate Celtic.QUOTE]

    Says it all really(the word 'hate'). Oh and as I said before these people are not anti-Irish Catholics they just love to hate Irish Catholics(or their descendents)who just happen to be Celtic supporters.


  • #167
    TheBuilder
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    Madam wrote: »

    Says it all really(the word 'hate'). Oh and as I said before these people are not anti-Irish Catholics they just love to hate Irish Catholics(or their descendents)who just happen to be Celtic supporters.

    No they hate Celtic and some Celtic fans, it's nothing to do with being Irish Catholics or descendants of them. I'm an Irish catholic, I have friends from Larkhall who are big Rangers men.

    Not everything is black and white, that's the problem with Scotland today as I said above, everything is attached to race, religion, nationality just to be offended.


  • #168
    Hannibal Barca.
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    TheBuilder wrote: »
    No they hate Celtic and some Celtic fans, it's nothing to do with being Irish Catholics or descendants of them. I'm an Irish catholic, I have friends from Larkhall who are big Rangers men.

    Not everything is black and white, that's the problem with Scotland today as I said above, everything is attached to race, religion, nationality just to be offended.
    The traffic light oppression must stop as it is anti Rome and that is just wrong. :rolleyes:


  • #169
    Dyr
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    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Really? Where is the proof its an attack on Irish Catholics? Are the traffic lights Irish Catholics? Is the subway sign an Irish catholic?

    To say its absolutely sectarian in nature is bull****, because you clearly have no proof other than that over exaggerated article.

    The west of Scotland has become a haven for over exaggerated bull**** like this, with Rangers and Celtic used by the media and politicians as an excuse for societal problems.

    This isn't an attack on Irish Catholics, it's simply an immature dislike of all things green, because being such a large rangers supporting area, they hate Celtic.

    Unfortunately, things aren't allowed to be simple anymore, everything is sectarian or bigoted or racist. It might be very immature, but this is simply just a dislike of the colour green.

    Up Next in AH : why those fans who threw bananas at john barnes were'nt really racist.


  • #170
    TheBuilder
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Up Next in AH : why those fans who threw bananas at john barnes were'nt really racist.

    Yeah cos that's the same thing :rolleyes:

    Actually can't believe it's being suggested smashing a green traffic light is on a par with throwing bananas at a black man.


  • #171
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Up Next in AH : why those fans who threw bananas at john barnes were'nt really racist.

    Totally different situation of course that was racist, same as the folk who chanted monkey noises and through bananas at Mark Walters. But as has been stated as an Irish Catholic who has many friend in Larkhall I have yet to experience any anti Irish sectarianism there sure I have had stupid digs but then I have handed out a few of my own. But never had any serious problems


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  • #172
    Dyr
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    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Yeah cos that's the same thing :rolleyes:

    Actually can't believe it's being suggested smashing a green traffic light is on a par with throwing bananas at a black man.

    It's not the same thing. Making the same excuses for it is though. Sectarianism is sectarianism. Racism is racism.

    "its just banter"
    "they don't mean it like that"
    "it's only because of xyz team"

    Heard it all before I'm afraid


  • #173
    TheBuilder
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    Bambi wrote: »
    It's not the same thing. Making the same excuses for it is though. Sectarianism is sectarianism. Racism is racism.

    "its just banter"
    "they don't mean it like that"
    "it's only because of xyz team"

    Heard it all before I'm afraid

    Since when did smashing a green light equate to sectarianism? Or is it because the newspaper article says so?

    As I said, not eveything has to be rounded up to sectarianism or bigotry. That's scaremongering and allowing people to develop opinions without having the smallest of idea's of what is actually happening.


  • #174
    [Deleted User]
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    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Since when did smashing a green light equate to sectarianism? Or is it because the newspaper article says so?

    As I said, not eveything has to be rounded up to sectarianism or bigotry. That's scaremongering and allowing people to develop opinions without having the smallest of idea's of what is actually happening.

    Bambi doesn't believe that someone who was involved in the RIRA, was involved in criminal activity even though there was a conviction and every newspaper reported it.
    I'd say his motives are biased to ****.


  • #175
    Madam
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    TheBuilder wrote: »
    No they hate Celtic and some Celtic fans, it's nothing to do with being Irish Catholics or descendants of them. I'm an Irish catholic, I have friends from Larkhall who are big Rangers men.

    Not everything is black and white, that's the problem with Scotland today as I said above, everything is attached to race, religion, nationality just to be offended.

    What you omit to say is that you are a Catholic Rangers supporter(are you a practising one though?). So I'm to be hated because I'm a Celtic supporter? I fnd that really offensive if thats the case!

    Wee story, I once went out with a protestant Rangers supporter, I got on well enough with the family but on the mother hearing where I came from was really riled, said to her son(within my hearing) 'oh no son, bad enough that she's Irish but a Catholic(went out with him for nearly two years for badness;) ).


  • #176
    TheBuilder
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    Madam wrote: »
    What you omit to say is that you are a Catholic Rangers supporter(are you a practising one though?). So I'm to be hated because I'm a Celtic supporter? I fnd that really offensive if thats the case!

    Wee story, I once went out with a protestant Rangers supporter, I got on well enough with the family but on the mother hearing where I came from was really riled, said to her son(within my hearing) 'oh no son, bad enough that she's Irish but a Catholic(went out with him for nearly two years for badness;) ).

    Yes I am a practicing one, I go every Sunday, actually often with my top on then straight to the pub afterwards for the early kick offs.

    I never said that, but in places with strong connections to a team like Larkhall or Carfin on the other side of the coin, you will get people that hate others simply because of the football team they support, I'm not saying it's right, it's just the way it is.

    Not every single things comes down to religion or where someone is from, I'm not saying there aren't still people who that matters to because there is, but not everything comes down to it like the media and such like to suggest.

    It really is quite simple, that article is sensationalising the whole thing, and turning it into something it isn't.


  • #177
    Dyr
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    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    Bambi doesn't believe that someone who was involved in the RIRA, was involved in criminal activity even though there was a conviction and every newspaper reported it.
    I'd say his motives are biased to ****.

    Oh that's interesting, someones trying to thread link. Maybe you can show me where I said this person wasn't involved in criminality. Then I'll show you how full of sh*t that statement is. Good man

    Then you can tell me what my motives are.


  • #178
    humanji
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    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    Bambi doesn't believe that someone who was involved in the RIRA, was involved in criminal activity even though there was a conviction and every newspaper reported it.
    I'd say his motives are biased to ****.
    Don't make this person. Stick to the topic.


  • #179
    Madam
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    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Yes I am a practicing one, I go every Sunday, actually often with my top on then straight to the pub afterwards for the early kick offs.QUOTE]

    Sorry, I just read that back and realised I shouldn't have asked you that question - none of my business if you go to mass or not- call me a hypocrit if you like as I'm a lapsed catholic:o

    At the end of the day I think this is more about tribalism than actual religion(though that has a smallish part to play).


  • #180
    De Hipster
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    The local residents will be hulk-green with anger when they see what Wikipedia have done:

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  • #181
    TheBuilder
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    Madam wrote: »

    Sorry, I just read that back and realised I shouldn't have asked you that question - none of my business if you go to mass or not- call me a hypocrit if you like as I'm a lapsed catholic:o

    At the end of the day I think this is more about tribalism than actual religion(though that has a smallish part to play).

    Not at all, I've no problem with being asked.


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