RIRA Man shot dead in broad daylight

Fenian Army · 04-09-2012 01:25PM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

What are you even talking about?! He was loved by republicans, Its a gigantic loss!

only a certain brand of republicans...

I dont believe half the sh!te the likes of the herald say about him though

Vicar in a tutu · 04-09-2012 01:26PM

Cienciano wrote: »

It wasn't fecken batman that was shot.

Yeah very funny.. , He done his best for the country and had strong beliefs , as someone else said he was at protests for the cuts etc, He loved the country and he's done alot more for it than I'd say alot of you people that are so quick to blacken his name have done. How would you feel if one of your kids was given a bit of coke etc by these dealers? would you be so quick to hate him then?

user2012 · 04-09-2012 01:26PM

I don't particularly like Paul Williams. He seems to have the same air of self importance & the overinflated ego of the criminals he follows.
However, in all the articles he wrote about the deceased & in all the photos that were printed I still wouldnt be able to recognise him on the street.
Presumably people in his area would know his line of business so it wouldn't have been a huge shock to buy the Sunday World & find a feature on him.

Blood on Williams hands? Don't be so naive.

My name is URL · 04-09-2012 01:26PM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

What are you even talking about?! He was loved by republicans, Its a gigantic loss!

Let's not go nuts. When you say 'republicans', who exactly do you mean? I'm a republican in the true sense of the word but I certainly wouldn't support or admire people like him. I wouldn't wish for him or anyone else to be murdered either, but that doesn't mean tacit approval.

markesmith · 04-09-2012 01:26PM

I don't sympathise with the IRA or RIRA cause, but the kneejerk reactions of the first few post (and the amount of thanks they got) would leave you bewildered. Who knows this man and his M.O?

Irish society (and its sometime microcosm, boards.ie) has a way to go to growing up about the whole north/south divide.

Sleepy · 04-09-2012 01:29PM

Why can't we all just agree that special branch should be allowed to clean up the likes of this chap instead of waiting for his business rivals to get rid of him for us?

Letting them kill each other allows innocents to get caught in the crossfire.

04-09-2012 01:30PM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

Yeah very funny.. , He done his best for the country and had strong beliefs , as someone else said he was at protests for the cuts etc, He loved the country and he's done alot more for it than I'd say alot of you people that are so quick to blacken his name have done. How would you feel if one of your kids was given a bit of coke etc by these dealers? would you be so quick to hate him then?

Why didnt he becoming a member of An Garda Siochana if he wanted to rid the streets of Drug dealers?
Oh that's right, he hated the Gardai too.
As does all his cronies.

seamus · 04-09-2012 01:31PM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

You do realise he was responsible for alot of people going into drug rehabilitation ?

I fail to see how that's relevant.

There isn't some kind of "good deed" balance in the world where the good things you do outweigh the bad.

A scumbag involved in criminal activities could spend half his days volunteering at orphanages, but that doesn't suddenly make his scumbaggery OK. He would remain a scumbag.

By all accounts Ryan had fallen out with the RIRA people in Dublin and all of the drug dealers on the northside because he was attempting to take control. So whodunnit is an open question but whydunnit isn't.

Lelantos · 04-09-2012 01:31PM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

laoch na mona wrote: »

them ****es are ruining the good name of republicanism
whats worse is he robbed from that organisation therefore reducing there ability to operate

What are you even talking about?! He was loved by republicans, Its a gigantic loss!

No decent person cares about whatever organisation he belonged to. Scum terrorists who deserve nothing but our contempt

.jacksparrow. · 04-09-2012 01:32PM

seamus wrote: »

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

You do realise he was responsible for alot of people going into drug rehabilitation ?

I fail to see how that's relevant.

There isn't some kind of "good deed" balance in the world where the good things you do outweigh the bad.

A scumbag involved in criminal activities could spend half his days volunteering at orphanages, but that doesn't suddenly make his scumbaggery OK. He would remain a scumbag.

By all accounts Ryan had fallen out with the RIRA people in Dublin and all of the drug dealers on the northside because he was attempting to take control. So whodunnit is an open question but whydunnit isn't.

By all accounts?which ones are these?

seamus · 04-09-2012 01:40PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

By all accounts?which ones are these?

Pretty much any media coverage I've seen.

One can of course be skeptical of the media, but proper journalists often possess more facts than even the friends and family of those involved.

Vicar in a tutu · 04-09-2012 01:42PM

seamus wrote: »

Pretty much any media coverage I've seen.

One can of course be skeptical of the media, but proper journalists often possess more facts than even the friends and family of those involved.

Well I've not heard anything like that, only good things.. if he was as bad as the media like to make out why are so many people grieving him? , The media love to make people seem ten times worse.. it sells papers.

.jacksparrow. · 04-09-2012 01:44PM

seamus wrote: »

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

By all accounts?which ones are these?

Pretty much any media coverage I've seen.

One can of course be skeptical of the media, but proper journalists often possess more facts than even the friends and family of those involved.

I haven't seen any reports that he fell out with the rira,must be just me but.

Patrick2010 · 04-09-2012 01:44PM

His way of earning a living seemed to consist of extortion, running protection rackets and shaking down drug dealers. Would his friends posting here like to tell us what he actually did for a living?

old_aussie · 04-09-2012 01:45PM

This murder has certainly polarised the boards community in this thread.

Lucky words don't cause death.

ROFLMAO

Dyr · 04-09-2012 01:46PM

seamus wrote: »

Pretty much any media coverage I've seen.

One can of course be skeptical of the media, but proper journalists often possess more facts than even the friends and family of those involved.

Proper journalists don't base their stories solely on gossip from anonymous "garda" sources. If the journos had "facts" this guy would have been behind bars, like you they've nothing of substance at all, just gossip and guff.

Cienciano · 04-09-2012 01:53PM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

Yeah very funny.. , He done his best for the country and had strong beliefs , as someone else said he was at protests for the cuts etc, He loved the country and he's done alot more for it than I'd say alot of you people that are so quick to blacken his name have done. How would you feel if one of your kids was given a bit of coke etc by these dealers? would you be so quick to hate him then?

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

Well I've not heard anything like that, only good things.. if he was as bad as the media like to make out why are so many people grieving him? , The media love to make people seem ten times worse.. it sells papers.

Something tells me you haven't heard from anyone he demanded protection money from. He was a great guy, but shook people down for protection money. :rolleyes:

Vicar in a tutu · 04-09-2012 01:54PM

Cienciano wrote: »

Something tells me you haven't heard from anyone he demanded protection money from. He was a great guy, but shook people down for protection money. :rolleyes:

Something tells me you havent met people destroyed by drugs :rolleyes:

How do you know he done it personally ?

I feel so bad for the poor little rich drug pushers..

.jacksparrow. · 04-09-2012 01:55PM

Cienciano wrote: »

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

Yeah very funny.. , He done his best for the country and had strong beliefs , as someone else said he was at protests for the cuts etc, He loved the country and he's done alot more for it than I'd say alot of you people that are so quick to blacken his name have done. How would you feel if one of your kids was given a bit of coke etc by these dealers? would you be so quick to hate him then?

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

Well I've not heard anything like that, only good things.. if he was as bad as the media like to make out why are so many people grieving him? , The media love to make people seem ten times worse.. it sells papers.

Something tells me you haven't heard from anyone he demanded protection money from. He was a great guy, but shook people down for protection money. :rolleyes:

Like who?

Dyr · 04-09-2012 01:58PM

Cienciano wrote: »

Something tells me you haven't heard from anyone he demanded protection money from.

Have you? Please do share.

04-09-2012 02:00PM

Patrick2010 wrote: »

His way of earning a living seemed to consist of extortion, running protection rackets and shaking down drug dealers. Would his friends posting here like to tell us what he actually did for a living?

He did odd jobs around the place.
oh and if you heard a rumour someone was a drug dealer, he would knock at their door and kindly ask them to stop.
By himself it must be said.

davet82 · 04-09-2012 02:01PM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

How would you feel if one of your kids was given a bit of coke etc by these dealers? would you be so quick to hate him then?

how would you feel if your dad built up a business from scratch and put blood sweat and tears into it and when it starts making money for some prick to turn up and tell you he'll burn the business to the ground if you dont start handing over the profits???

and before you start...

Mr Ryan was on bail awaiting serious criminal charges arising from an alleged extortion racket he was involved in.

and just because he was gunned down before he'd be convicted (lets cut the bullshít) dosent make him clean.

btw i feel sorry for his family and i dont believe anybody deserves to die like he did but he was what he was

seiphil · 04-09-2012 02:01PM

Next time people complain about Junkies all over Dublin just remember how glad you were when somebody who was trying to stop that was killed.

Crooked Jack · 04-09-2012 02:02PM

Red_Wake wrote: »

They'd describe themselves as such though.

I describe myself as tall, handsome, athletically built and with a full head of hair. Doesnt make it so.

Amalgam · 04-09-2012 02:03PM

seiphil wrote: »

Next time people complain about Junkies all over Dublin just remember how glad you were when somebody who was trying to stop that was killed.

Keep deluding yourself.

.jacksparrow. · 04-09-2012 02:04PM

davet82 wrote: »

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

How would you feel if one of your kids was given a bit of coke etc by these dealers? would you be so quick to hate him then?

how would you feel if your dad built up a business from scratch and put blood sweat and tears into it and when it starts making money for some prick to turn up and tell you he'll burn the business to the ground if you dont start handing over the profits???

and before you start...

Mr Ryan was on bail awaiting serious criminal charges arising from an alleged extortion racket he was involved in.

and just because he was gunned down before he'd be convicted (lets cut the bullshít) dosent make him clean.

btw i feel sorry for his family and i dont believe anybody deserves to die like he did but he was what he was

If you knew anything about that case you would know the judge was on the verge of throwing it out
of court due to the gards lack of evidence.

Vicar in a tutu · 04-09-2012 02:05PM

Amalgam wrote: »

Keep deluding yourself.

How are they deluding themselves ?

Was he out robbing old womens handbags to pay for heroin?
Was he out breaking into peoples homes to fund drugs?

frag420 · 04-09-2012 02:05PM

RVP 11 wrote: »

He did odd jobs around the place.
oh and if you heard a rumour someone was a drug dealer, he would knock at their door and kindly ask them to stop.
By himself it must be said.

My bollix he did. Kindly? And they stopped too I would imagine? Just because he kindly told them to?

Im thinking this is the dummest post yet.................although there is some stiff competition.

Patrick2010 · 04-09-2012 02:08PM

Think RVP was being ironic

Cienciano · 04-09-2012 02:10PM

Vicar in a tutu wrote: »

Something tells me you havent met people destroyed by drugs :rolleyes:

How do you know he done it personally ?

I feel so bad for the poor little rich drug pushers..

Well, a guy taking drug money is as bad as a drug dealer imho. And he also took money off legitimate business according to reports. Imagine trying to scrape a living and this scumbag comes in demanding cash off you? But his friend said he was a great lad, so it's ok :rolleyes:

Actually, you're on defending a guy who gardai describe as "leading member of one of the most dangerous crime gangs in the State and was also a member of the so-called Real IRA"

RIRA Man shot dead in broad daylight

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