Protection money.

Tin Foil Hat · 03-09-2012 07:06PM

kneemos wrote: »

How prevalent is protection money for businesses around the country does anybody know?

I don't know about businesses, but the government is in the process of implementing a protection racket over every house in the country.

BillyMitchel · 03-09-2012 07:06PM

realies wrote: »

Was there not an Italian chipper owner who was paying huge sums every week to the RIRA not to long ago ?

Haven't the RIRA came out and said he was a member but acting for personal benifit. Expelled and think there was something in the paper recently that now he keeps getting into **** in prison and had to be separated.

MaxSteele · 03-09-2012 07:09PM

realies wrote: »

It is him. And as you said there could be some kick back from this depending on who gets the blame for it.

Someone explain "him" I'm too intrigued now.

mikemac1 · 03-09-2012 07:10PM

Kelly Security in Limerick

If you sign up you get a sign to put up in your window and that means a lot to the local ne'er do wells.

If you change your mind and don't want to pay anymore you get several little kids in your shops robbing your stock and running out the door.
Happened to a sports shop on William St

Sunnyisland · 03-09-2012 07:13PM

Max Steele wrote: »

Someone explain "him" I'm too intrigued now.

Monday September 03 2012

A leading terror figure has been killed and an associate injured in a gangland-style gun attack in north Dublin.
The victim, named locally as Alan Ryan, has several previous convictions and is known by detectives for his links with the Real IRA (RIRA).
The 32-year-old was notorious for racketeering - extorting cash from drug dealers and businessmen across the city and demanding protection money from firms.
He was previously convicted of taking part in a RIRA weapons training camp in Meath in 2001 and served time for possession of a firearm in a separate incident.
A Garda source said: "He was very dangerous. He won't be missed. Anyone could have done this. Even one of his own."
The daylight shooting happened in the Grange Lodge estate in Clongriffin.
Ryan was shot in the head near his home and was rushed to Beaumont hospital, where he was pronounced dead. The second man was shot in the leg.
A burnt-out car was discovered a short time later on Hole in the Wall Road and both scenes have been sealed off pending a forensic technical examination.
Gardai have appealed for witnesses to come forward.
Ryan was due to go on trial - along with three other men - for threatening a city-centre publican and making him cease trading within 24 hours.He is the one the media always said was part of one of three brothers of a gang from donaghmede.

http://www.herald.ie/breaking-news/national-news/terror-figure-killed-in-gun-attack-3217793.html

Colmustard · 03-09-2012 07:14PM

realies wrote: »

Monday September 03 2012

A leading terror figure has been killed and an associate injured in a gangland-style gun attack in north Dublin.
The victim, named locally as Alan Ryan, has several previous convictions and is known by detectives for his links with the Real IRA (RIRA).
The 32-year-old was notorious for racketeering - extorting cash from drug dealers and businessmen across the city and demanding protection money from firms.
He was previously convicted of taking part in a RIRA weapons training camp in Meath in 2001 and served time for possession of a firearm in a separate incident.
A Garda source said: "He was very dangerous. He won't be missed. Anyone could have done this. Even one of his own."
The daylight shooting happened in the Grange Lodge estate in Clongriffin.
Ryan was shot in the head near his home and was rushed to Beaumont hospital, where he was pronounced dead. The second man was shot in the leg.
A burnt-out car was discovered a short time later on Hole in the Wall Road and both scenes have been sealed off pending a forensic technical examination.
Gardai have appealed for witnesses to come forward.
Ryan was due to go on trial - along with three other men - for threatening a city-centre publican and making him cease trading within 24 hours.

Thread over, so it does go on in Dublin.

Fenian Army · 03-09-2012 07:18PM

Colmustard wrote: »

Thread over, so it does go on in Dublin.

The hearld is a complete rag, I wouldnt even trust it for the date.

Thats not to say that it doesnt happen, but the herald hardly constitutes irrefutable proof

Uriel. · 03-09-2012 07:21PM

realies wrote: »

Max Steele wrote: »

Someone explain "him" I'm too intrigued now.

Monday September 03 2012

Ryan was shot in the head near his home and was rushed to Beaumont hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

The ambulance should have taken its time

Pottler · 03-09-2012 07:23PM

Just get yourself a handy Umberella Katana, then kapow-bosh, you can show those guys a thing or two when they come calling for their pro-dough. Watch out the lads from SWAT don't spot you though, or you're screwed.

Sunnyisland · 03-09-2012 08:01PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

The herald is a complete rag, I wouldn't even trust it for the date.

That's not to say that it doesn't happen, but the herald hardly constitutes irrefutable proof

Very true about the herald,But re the protection rackets they are going on in some parts of Dublin for years.

yabadabado · 03-09-2012 08:06PM

tricky D wrote: »

I reckon the story you're talking about actually refers to the Blue Lion when 2 Nigerians made that stupid mistake and a trail of blood was left on the pavement after the gang of well known criminals showed them the error of their ways. (I was living a few doors up the street at the time)

I heard about this before,was that pub on Parnell St. ?

Sunnyisland · 03-09-2012 08:09PM

yabadabado wrote: »

I heard about this before,was that pub on Parnell St. ?

Yes.

Stovepipe · 03-09-2012 08:11PM

Hi there,
A friend was dining in a small restaurant, not very far from the Garda HQ, when a hard-looking character walked in, went up to the owner, who was clearly expecting him and looked terrified. The owner handed over an envelope and the toerag left. Neither said a word and the owner collapsed in a heap as soon as the guy had gone. Every Garda in Dublin knows the pubs and shops where "protection" is allegedly ongoing, as does every bouncer and doorman.

regards
Stovepipe

03-09-2012 08:11PM

MaxSteele wrote: »

Drug trafficking is about as organized that crime gets here. .............

Prostitution, counterfeit goods, diesel laundering.....

kneemos · 03-09-2012 08:15PM

RoverJames wrote: »

Prostitution, counterfeit goods, diesel laundering.....

Blue collar,don't forget those c..ts.

digitaldr · 03-09-2012 08:18PM

This looks like it could have been a protection money job!

Sunnyisland · 03-09-2012 08:20PM

kneemos wrote: »

Blue collar,don't forget those c..ts.

Blue collar crime albeit as serious is in a different bracket,Protection rackets usually come in the form of an extortion scheme whereby a criminal group or individual coerces a victim (usually a business) to pay money, supposedly for protection services against violence or property damage. Racketeers coerce reticent potential victims into buying "protection" by demonstrating what will happen if they don't—they damage the victims' property. In most cases, the racketeers do not actually protect their client from anything but the racketeers themselves, and their "protection" is merely extortion. However, if their victim is seriously threatened by a third party, sometimes gangsters will protect their source of revenue. some of this from wiki.

splendid101 · 03-09-2012 08:43PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

Hahaha

I really doubt they were burned down for not paying protection money to the RIRA

Why not bro? That's the word on the street.

Colmustard · 03-09-2012 08:52PM

How much protection money do you pay the mods, its not fair, don't they realise times are hard.

Sunnyisland · 03-09-2012 08:52PM

splendid101 wrote: »

Why not bro? That's the word on the street.

The word on the street is that the Players lounge is well :connected: to the 32 sovereignty movement which is well connected to the RIRA.;););)

Fenian Army · 03-09-2012 08:58PM

splendid101 wrote: »

Why not bro? That's the word on the street.

Owner would be a solid republican

Plus you can't be burning down Stokes's Da's pub!

ScumLord · 03-09-2012 09:03PM

realies wrote: »

Blue collar crime albeit as serious is in a different bracket,Protection rackets usually come in the form of an extortion scheme whereby a criminal group or individual coerces a victim (usually a business) to pay money, supposedly for protection services against violence or property damage.

Also known as "insurance" which is carried out by criminal organisations called "banks".

sweeney1971 · 03-09-2012 09:22PM

There is certain areas in the UK what do this. The UK Police have no control anymore and when they do come out to an Assault, Robbery etc they always say no witness no case or another line they come out with is 'Its a Civil Matter' People in affluent areas are quite happy to pay for protection. Besides most of the Cop's are fat and lazy.

splendid101 · 03-09-2012 10:14PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

Owner would be a solid republican

Plus you can't be burning down Stokes's Da's pub!

realies wrote: »

The word on the street is that the Players lounge is well :connected: to the 32 sovereignty movement which is well connected to the RIRA.

I heard through the grapevine that runs through the River Tolka that it's some sort of protection money racket going on. I thought it changed owners and the new guy didn't want to be dealing with all the messing the old guy had put up with (through choice or loyalty?) and hence got the place burned down.

I thought it would have been reopened by this stage.

I wonder if this wild speculation will be allowed for much longer?

I also heard that the Sunset House is a gay bar. Might head in there some fine evening and ask some of the gentlemen there perhaps.

tricky D · 03-09-2012 11:16PM

yabadabado wrote: »

I heard about this before,was that pub on Parnell St. ?

Yup, opposite the bottom of Hill St. Now closed/changed to something else.

splendid101 · 03-09-2012 11:48PM

tricky D wrote: »

yabadabado wrote: »

I heard about this before,was that pub on Parnell St. ?

Yup, opposite the bottom of Hill St. Now closed/changed to something else.

Is it a Russian restaurant now?

Kirby · 04-09-2012 12:15AM

ScumLord wrote: »

Also known as "insurance" which is carried out by criminal organisations called "banks".

I somehow doubt NIB will come round and burn your house down though if you miss a payment.

wyndham · 04-09-2012 12:43AM

splendid101 wrote: »

Is it a Russian restaurant now?

No, thats on the junction of Marlborough and Sean McDermott Street in the ground floor of the carpark.

MaxSteele · 04-09-2012 12:47AM

RoverJames wrote: »

Prostitution, counterfeit goods, diesel laundering.....

While I was referring more to the Republic, prostitution seems to be more lone wolf escort is not ?. Diesel laundering ? Again I thought that was more a border issue up north as opposed what happens down south.

Are the fine denizens of Moore Street, Jervis selling bags and "strrawberrdies" etc really that professional or organized counterfeiting rackets compared to elsewhere ? I think drugs are lot more organized here.

Protection money.

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