Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

Melion · 02-09-2012 07:48PM

Dirty old Arsene

http://lockerz.com/s/240796386

02-09-2012 07:58PM

Melion wrote: »

Dirty old Arsene

http://lockerz.com/s/240796386

That photo was taken as Sahin was being brought off :pac:

conor93a · 02-09-2012 08:02PM

Just wondering with Koscielny back fully fit, who will be the preferred central defensive partnership? I like Koscielny a lot, but I've been so impressed with the Mertesacker-Vermaelen partnership so far this season. Think I'd stick with that for now.

02-09-2012 08:05PM

conor93a wrote: »

Just wondering with Koscielny back fully fit, who will be the preferred central defensive partnership? I like Koscielny a lot, but I've been so impressed with the Mertesacker-Vermaelen partnership so far this season. Think I'd stick with that for now.

I'd play Kosc against teams with pacy strikers, and Mert against your Stoke/Norwich/West ham type teams

02-09-2012 08:07PM

conor93a wrote: »

Just wondering with Koscielny back fully fit, who will be the preferred central defensive partnership? I like Koscielny a lot, but I've been so impressed with the Mertesacker-Vermaelen partnership so far this season. Think I'd stick with that for now.

Wenger always leaves the man with form in those positions.
I'm not worried either way, I think the difference this season over previous ones, is most of the players will be fighting to stay in the starting lineup.
In previous seasons players got sloppy and comfortable with little contention for a place in the first team.

cashback · 02-09-2012 08:13PM

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Few of the lads playing sitting volleyball :pac:

http://paralympics.channel4.com/video/key-moments/videoid=1235499/

I'm glad Diaby came through unscathed.

HazDanz · 02-09-2012 08:43PM

AdamD wrote: »

I'd play Kosc against teams with pacy strikers, and Mert against your Stoke/Norwich/West ham type teams

I love Kos the problem is this side is tiping along nicely and no one every likes rocking the boat. We've conceded ten goals less so far this season compared to this point last season so it's hard call to change Mert out and Kos in.

tony1kenobi · 02-09-2012 09:00PM

RVP 11 wrote: »

Wonder which bottle of wine Wenger is opening tonight.

White,fruity,13 years old etc etc.....

General Relativity · 02-09-2012 09:07PM

Two super serious FF questions

;

1: What's wrong with Szezesny and when's he likely to be back?

2: Has Jenkinson nailed your RB slot for the season or will he be out on his ear when Sagna is back?

Good result today btw.

Omeceron · 02-09-2012 09:11PM

conor93a wrote: »

Just wondering with Koscielny back fully fit, who will be the preferred central defensive partnership? I like Koscielny a lot, but I've been so impressed with the Mertesacker-Vermaelen partnership so far this season. Think I'd stick with that for now.

The defense seems much calmer with Mert playing. No panicking at set pieces and when teams run at them.

The tracking back of the Ox and Podolski is also a big bonus for the defense. Some difference compared to when Wally and Arshavin were on the wings.

gosplan · 02-09-2012 09:12PM

General Relativity wrote: »

Two super serious FF questions ;

1: What's wrong with Szezesny and when's he likely to be back?

2: Has Jenkinson nailed your RB slot for the season or will he be out on his ear when Sanga is back?

Good result today btw.

1: soon

2: defo out, think maybe 2-3 weeks time

Gibbs ftw.

tayto lover · 02-09-2012 09:13PM

General Relativity wrote: »

Two super serious FF questions ;

1: What's wrong with Szezesny and when's he likely to be back?

2: Has Jenkinson nailed your RB slot for the season or will he be out on his ear when Sanga is back?

Good result today btw.

1. Rib injury, back next game.

2. No. Sagna back in 3 weeks and straight back in.

greendom · 02-09-2012 09:15PM

gosplan wrote: »

1: soon

2: defo out, think maybe 2-3 weeks time

Gibbs ftw.

Jenkinson is doing very well, but he's not going to keep out one of best full backs in World football.

robby^5 · 02-09-2012 09:16PM

General Relativity wrote: »

1: What's wrong with Szezesny and when's he likely to be back?

Has a rib injury. He was to have a test yesterday so he obviously failed so I assume he'll rest up during the international break and be back for Southampton.

General Relativity wrote: »

2: Has Jenkinson nailed your RB slot for the season or will he be out on his ear when Sanga is back?

While he's doing great right now he wont keep his place once Sagna is back. A fit Sagna is one of our best defenders and always gonna be first choice.

Speaking of FF I wish I had the confidence to have brought Mannone in for Szezesny these last two weeks! I wonder will Fabianski move down the pecking order now?

gnfnrhead · 02-09-2012 09:27PM

Anyone have a list of players who will be involved in internationals?

KINGVictor · 02-09-2012 09:30PM

wonga77 wrote: »

Bould has already put a huge stamp on the team. The whole defensive unit look more solid and clued in, though there will be far tougher tests ahead

+1

I watched the game and he looked so serious, always making gestures and screaming- you can sense the intense desire to win and lack of satisfaction. At one point even we were 2-0 up, he got so irated when we lost the ball. He comes across a disciplinarian (I heard himself and Song didnt see eye to eye-anecdotal story though) which I feel most football players need these days to help focus more on the end result.

On another note, I know much has been said about RVP and his performance today, yes we should forget him and move on; I cant just help but imagine the impact if he had stayed. Right now we have a sound defense, a solid midfield and he would just be banging in goals with reckless abandon with passes from Carzola. I know it is early days but I think he might end up regreting his decision because the ManU I have seen so far are not winning the EPL league or CL this year- very messy defense and a midfield that has to largely depend on a 38 year old -not happening.

It feels like he has found himself in the Arsenal of last season to be honest- essentially scoring to make up for deficits.

gnfnrhead · 02-09-2012 09:44PM

KINGVictor wrote: »

+1

I watched the game and he looked so serious, always making gestures and screaming- you can sense the intense desire to win and lack of satisfaction. At one point even we were 2-0 up, he got so irated when we lost the ball. He comes across a disciplinarian (I heard himself and Song didnt see eye to eye-anecdotal story though) which I feel most football players need these days to help focus more on the end result.

On another note, I know much has been said about RVP and his performance today, yes we should forget him and move on; I cant just help but imagine the impact if he had stayed. Right now we have a sound defense, a solid midfield and he would just be banging in goals with reckless abandon with passes from Carzola. I know it is early days but I think he might end up regreting his decision because the ManU I have seen so far are not winning the EPL league or CL this year- very messy defense and a midfield that has to largely depend on a 38 year old -not happening.

It feels like he has found himself in the Arsenal of last season to be honest- essentially scoring to make up for deficits.

Even if we dont win the League, just finishing above United this season would be epic

It's always great to finish above them, but this season would be the best time yet.

emergingstar · 02-09-2012 10:01PM

Fcuk this talk of having rvp in this team and what he would do
He didn't want us and left
Rather have giroud who try's his best for the jersey
Rvp don't deserve to wear the cannon on his chest, and he can be ****ed if he thinks I'm gonna sit here missing him

Soups123 · 02-09-2012 10:05PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Fcuk this talk of having rvp in this team and what he would do
He didn't want us and left
Rather have giroud who try's his best for the jersey
Rvp don't deserve to wear the cannon on his chest, and he can be ****ed if he thinks I'm gonna sit here missing him

Seriously mate you could stick ur ex missus's name in there and it wud read spot on

dvemail · 02-09-2012 10:19PM

Diaby looked immense today, or at least what was shown of him from MOTD.
Easy to forget how good he could be because of all his injuries, but we have a serious midfield trio at the moment.
Barring any injuries, i fail to see how Rosicky or Wilshere can get straight back into the team. Great position to be in at the moment.

emergingstar · 02-09-2012 10:30PM

dvemail wrote: »

Diaby looked immense today, or at least what was shown of him from MOTD.
Easy to forget how good he could be because of all his injuries, but we have a serious midfield trio at the moment.
Barring any injuries, i fail to see how Rosicky or Wilshere can get straight back into the team. Great position to be in at the moment.

Gerard couldn't get near diaby today he was immense
I reckon wilshere goes AM and Santi goes RW

dvemail · 02-09-2012 10:34PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Gerard couldn't get near diaby today he was immense
I reckon wilshere goes AM and Santi goes RW

Could be done but Santi probably plays his best stuff in the centre. Could even put Arteta bit more forward and throw Wilshere in Artetas role like he did 2 seasons ago. Great problem to have.

emergingstar · 02-09-2012 10:39PM

dvemail wrote: »

emergingstar wrote: »

Gerard couldn't get near diaby today he was immense
I reckon wilshere goes AM and Santi goes RW

Could be done but Santi probably plays his best stuff in the centre. Could even put Arteta bit more forward and throw Wilshere in Artetas role like he did 2 seasons ago. Great problem to have.

Wilshere is too good to be on the bed when fully fit, and IF diaby keeps playing like that he can't be dropped and Arteta is the first name on the team sheet
And we have played 3 different players RW in 3 games none of them outstanding makes sense that bringing in jack and moving Santi is the move

But alot of things can change during a season but we really are very string in midfield

02-09-2012 11:04PM

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Can't really understand why jenkinson gets so much stick here, he hasn't done anything wrong that I can see so far, nor in the last season for the most part.

He'll only get better in my opinion.

Great win today. Diaby and Podolski were class and i think Giroud will come good in the near future. As for little Santi, he's the gift that keeps on giving.

Bould has really put his marker on this team and with all due respect to Pat Rice i suppose we were overdue fresh ideas. Was very impressed with the way we tried to work a corner for a change as we normally waste them which is not good enough in any form of professional football. Mertesacker though looked in big trouble and could have cost us. He got Arteta booked. Very lucky to make the ball for one challenge but a decent shout for a penalty for the other. Sooner the Koc and Verm partnership is restored the better but to our dismay it seems Vermaelen hobbled off the 90th minute

3 games, 1 win and 2 draws with no goals conceded. What a difference 12 months make.

KINGVictor · 02-09-2012 11:08PM

Garth Crooks can be dodgy in his analysis sometimes but nice to see we have three of our players in the team of the week -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19460157

02-09-2012 11:11PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Fcuk this talk of having rvp in this team and what he would do
He didn't want us and left
Rather have giroud who try's his best for the jersey
Rvp don't deserve to wear the cannon on his chest, and he can be ****ed if he thinks I'm gonna sit here missing him

Fair play. RVP is an excellent footballer and one of the finest ive seen in an Arsenal shirt but he made his decision to go, we made our decision to sell and so be it. Best of luck to him but we must go forward. Arsenal will be ok in the future and will go from strength to strength on the evidence of what ive seen so far. we probably need to get in better centre backs and to clear out Toto and Mertesacker. Not up to the pace of the Premier league

wandatowell · 02-09-2012 11:14PM

RVP 11 wrote: »

He is, but it feels this year like we have a few captains on the pitch.
Probably thanks to Bould

I would have thought the first thing Steve would have said was to be more vocal on the pitch.

This team seems very solid and if that means curbing our all out attacking instincts somewhat I'd only be delighted.

Got really sick of being seen as a soft touch

wandatowell · 02-09-2012 11:16PM

KINGVictor wrote: »

Garth Crooks can be dodgy in his analysis sometimes but nice to see we have three of our players in the team of the week -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19460157

with 2 of the 3 being defenders no less!!

gnfnrhead · 02-09-2012 11:17PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Sooner the Koc and Verm partnership is restored the better but to our dismay it seems Vermaelen hobbled off the 90th minute

We dont have a game next weekend so hopefully he'll be fine for Southampton.

02-09-2012 11:34PM

gnfnrhead wrote: »

We dont have a game next weekend so hopefully he'll be fine for Southampton.

Oh its vital. Other then Koc and Verm we have no other centre half cut out for the premier league. Djourou is always struggling for match fitness and the other two i previously mentioned are just not up to it.

Wenger should let Steve Bould decide on the buying and selling of defenders in the future and we'll be ok

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