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Why do so many people hate the Sunday Independent?

  • 12-08-2012 01:53AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49


    Nearly everyone says it's a rag. I heard someone say once about its sister paper "Ew, I can't believe I touched the Irish Independent." I agree the content could be better. I don't read it too much, but I've read some pieces and I don't think the reporters are bad writers (although some of them may have poor judgment). To be honest, I kind of prefer the Sindo's style of writing to the Irish Times because it's more engaging to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭What? Oh Rly!


    Nearly everyone says it's a rag. I heard someone say once about its sister paper "Ew, I can't believe I touched the Irish Independent." I agree the content could be better. I don't read it too much, but I've read some pieces and I don't think the reporters are bad writers (although some of them may have poor judgment). To be honest, I kind of prefer the Sindo's style of writing to the Irish Times because it's more engaging to me.

    Maybe because people see someone else say it is a rag


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,058 ✭✭✭tippspur


    I work in the the public sector,the indo is anti public sector and always has been,It's a pure rag.

    Plus,the papers treatment of Liam Lawler after his death in a road accident in Russia some years ago was a disgrace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭digzy


    as an example of the rubbish it prints, refer to it's edition of 2 or 3 weeks ago when it's editor saw fit to put the niamh horan story with that scumbag mcfeehily on its front cover.
    now anyone that follows current affairs is aware of his disgusting business dealings-priory hall for example. yet he's on the front page for basically telling niamh to **** off and smashed a glass. i'd be more curious to know how a 'bankrupt' is on holidays in portugal yet he cant compensate the victims of the priory hall debacle.
    again today there's more claptrap about horan/mc feehily:rolleyes: so basically scumbags can threaten people without any coverage but woe betide if they threaten a journo.

    i'd agree with tippspur that it's anti public sector and they're always having a right pop at the government no matter who's in charge. however colm mc carthy is always the voice of reason.

    If you want to know whats going on buy the business post. However tbf to the sindo it's a catch all, sport the rag mag etc, covers most of the population hence it's populatity. I buy it every sunday-i think my wife would die without it:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭EchoO


    It's not really a newspaper, it's almost entirely made up of opinion pieces written by people whose opinions I have no interest in. There are a few exceptions, but not enough to make me want to buy the thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    So true, the Sindo really is little more than a collection of lengthy rants (AH in print!), celeb photos, vacuous lifestyle nonsense and sport.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭The Idyll Race


    tippspur wrote: »
    I work in the the public sector,the indo is anti public sector and always has been,It's a pure rag.

    Plus,the papers treatment of Liam Lawler after his death in a road accident in Russia some years ago was a disgrace.

    The really big mystery for me about the Lawlor case was that it was the Observer, the UK Sunday that historically has been pro-Ireland that printed the original version of the story. The Sindo simply lifted it. The Observer would have had no axe to grind with Fianna Fail or indeed any Irish politician.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    digzy wrote: »
    i'd agree with tippspur that it's anti public sector and they're always having a right pop at the government no matter who's in charge.

    Do people really have memories this short. What about all the fawning they did over Bertie? More than one article was written sympathizing with his 'plight' over the Moriarty tribunal. Articles like the one below seemed to be part of a concerted effort to denigrate the work of Moriarty:

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/the-ahern-years/theyve-got-him-and-sunk-to-a-new-depth-1339720.html

    While we're on O'Connor, how can we forget his infamous article about the smart, ballsy guys:
    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/the-smart-ballsy-guys-are-buying-up-property-right-now-1047118.html

    Helping to push up property prices was another goal of the Sindo. Only recently they had an front page article saying the Irish property market was going to rise like a ping pong ball in water. :rolleyes:

    Not to mention it's love for trying to make faux celebrities for the Irish market and it's ability to write completely tasteless articles like this:
    http://i51.tinypic.com/2poqk2v.jpg

    As a paper, it is utterly reprehensible. I only ever see it if I call into my parents on a Sunday but any time I read it I'm still shocked by how utterly vile it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Sunday Independent = tabloid in broadsheet form

    Who cares what Brian McFadden or Rosanna Davidson get up to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 386 ✭✭anbrutog


    Sunday Independent = tabloid in broadsheet form

    Who cares what Brian McFadden or Rosanna Davidson get up to?

    ..and with that, Barry Egan. Surely one of the most vilest men in the country ?? His puke inducing sycophantry to an assortment of airhead models and talent free so-called celebs is reason enough on its own to hate the paper.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Sunday Papers are like bad sex ;you feel bad but uncertain why .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭redalan


    I think it is because people are marched at gunpoint to buy it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Arciphel


    Niamh Horan rubbish still grinding on, they have got Anne Harris to have a go this week - and now the angle is that everyone who doesn't like "brave" Niamh Horan is a sexist pig. If anyone out there is still buying this paper, please stop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    Because Eoghan Harris writes for it.

    Maybe that's just me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    Because this type of anti-male aggression is published on its front page:
    He is like men everywhere. They shout, they roar, they threaten. Eventually they may calm down but the damage is done. O Cuiv, like most men, will realise he should have listened to the voice of reason, which is usually the voice of a woman.

    Simple. Many of their journalists are utter scumbags - in this case, Jody Corcoran.

    Aside from the odd letter of complaint, I'm still in utter shock and disbelief how this article in particular was not the subject of massive media scrutiny, criticism and uproar. But it seems it's okay for certain sections of the media to abuse men.

    And don't even get me started on Niamh Horan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Tool_


    Do people really have memories this short. What about all the fawning they did over Bertie? More than one article was written sympathizing with his 'plight' over the Moriarty tribunal. Articles like the one below seemed to be part of a concerted effort to denigrate the work of Moriarty:

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/the-ahern-years/theyve-got-him-and-sunk-to-a-new-depth-1339720.html

    While we're on O'Connor, how can we forget his infamous article about the smart, ballsy guys:
    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/the-smart-ballsy-guys-are-buying-up-property-right-now-1047118.html

    Helping to push up property prices was another goal of the Sindo. Only recently they had an front page article saying the Irish property market was going to rise like a ping pong ball in water. :rolleyes:

    Not to mention it's love for trying to make faux celebrities for the Irish market and it's ability to write completely tasteless articles like this:
    http://i51.tinypic.com/2poqk2v.jpg

    As a paper, it is utterly reprehensible. I only ever see it if I call into my parents on a Sunday but any time I read it I'm still shocked by how utterly vile it is.

    I'm new (and a luddite) so haven't worked out how to thank that post, but agree with every word of it. A horrible paper written by horrible people to promote prejudices I want nothing to do with.

    Its more widely available in England than other Irish papers but there's still no danger of me buying it. Occasionally pick-up a copy kicking about the pub on a Sunday and its always the same dispiriting gutter nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    Because its full of opinion pieces by complete gob****es such as Eoghan Harris (aka Own Arse)who managed to use Katie Taylors victory and religious beliefs and the death of Con as a way to have a go at Sinn Féin.

    Its the rants of the arrogant arsehole (the "setting the agenda" ego trip) down the pub who thinks he knows all there is to no about everything in print form.

    Except it's slightly more sinister:
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2012/0425/1224315145169.html

    (the above is worth a read)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Arciphel


    Another stirring article by intrepid Sindo journalist Niamh Horan today all about what women wear when going to visit their men in prison!!! The Purlitzer surely beckons at this stage...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Motorist


    I view the paper as a Fianna Fail mouthpiece especially when you have hack journalists such as Jody Corcoran onboard. I used to buy it but can no longer bring myself to support the vile it produces.

    It is fitting a journalist of the calibre of Brendan OConnor works for such a toxic rag along with behemoths such as perjurer Willie O'Dea , Bertie's old love interest Celia Larkin (and failed beautician), celebrity journalists Alison OConnor and Niamh Horan not to mention old delusional Harris who defended Bertie to the hilt during the Mahon Tribunal. Now deceased, editor Fanning said on the Late Late Show last year that he wasn't going to vote in the last general election - he was too embarrassed to mention the party his paper had cheerleaded since 1997 - FF.

    Finally, I have to grin when I think that the Sindo played a huge part in getting their Fianna Fail masters back into power in 2007. And now that is the very reason Fianna Fail are struggling so badly with 20 seats won in 2011.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    If there was any doubt as to whether the Indo was a tabloid or not, this should just about put the argument to rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,063 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Arciphel wrote: »
    Another stirring article by intrepid Sindo journalist Niamh Horan today all about what women wear when going to visit their men in prison!!! The Purlitzer surely beckons at this stage...

    Yes indeed, when not taking photographs of people in bars without their permission, she is writing this tripe (in yesterday's Sindo about Quinn Jr's wife visiting him in Mountjoy) under the heading of National 'News'.....

    Dressed in a lilac soft-knit cropped sweater, skin-tight black jeans and black ankle boots -- carefully accessorised with an oversized Marc Jacobs handbag and patterned scarf, she injected a splash of colour into the drab wet morning outside the dreary exterior of one of Ireland's toughest jails, Mountjoy Prison.

    Her blonde locks swept up in a tousled roll, she finished off the look with a dainty pair of diamond studded earrings.


    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/karen-fights-to-support-her-man-but-her-crime-is-looking-good-3210215.html

    Pass the sick bag. Wouldn't wipe me arse with that rag.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭grover_green


    not one single major media outlet in ireland presents a right of centre viewpoint except the sindo and it does a pretty poor job of it , i used to buy it , i dont buy any sunday newspaper now


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    If there was any doubt as to whether the Indo was a tabloid or not, this should just about put the argument to rest.

    Hilarious.

    The Indo/Sindo are just tabloids now. Opinion pieces and copied/pasted news from other sources.

    That's the problem when you hire tabloid journalists. (Excluding Niamh whatshername - who you couldn't call a journalist at all)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭The Idyll Race


    not one single major media outlet in ireland presents a right of centre viewpoint except the sindo and it does a pretty poor job of it , i used to buy it , i dont buy any sunday newspaper now

    So the Business Post and the Sunday Times are pinko peddlers? *surprised*

    You'd hate me, I take the Observer *smug*


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭grover_green


    So the Business Post and the Sunday Times are pinko peddlers? *surprised*

    You'd hate me, I take the Observer *smug*

    the sunday times and the sunday business post dont have a large enough circulation to form any significant opinion

    every other major media outlet is left of centre

    irish times
    rte


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 marymarcy


    Tool_ wrote: »
    I'm new (and a luddite) so haven't worked out how to thank that post, but agree with every word of it. A horrible paper written by horrible people to promote prejudices I want nothing to do with.

    Its more widely available in England than other Irish papers but there's still no danger of me buying it. Occasionally pick-up a copy kicking about the pub on a Sunday and its always the same dispiriting gutter nonsense.

    Dispiriting sums it up completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭donaghs


    tippspur wrote: »
    I work in the the public sector,the indo is anti public sector and always has been,It's a pure rag.

    Plus,the papers treatment of Liam Lawler after his death in a road accident in Russia some years ago was a disgrace.

    Liam Lawlor? What?! That story didn't originate with them, and they apologised after the full story emerged. The slighting of one of Ireland's most corrupt people ever is strange to be the main reason to dismiss an entire newspaper?

    Main reason, as mentioned previously, most rational-minded people don't like it is that for a "newspaper", its short on news, and full of "opinion" pieces and "celebrity" stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭dartsfan


    It's complete and utter rubbish, and is out of touch with the average Joe in the country.

    Most of the opinion pieces are irrelevant.

    I enjoy reading about crime in Sunday papers, but their crime correspondent Jim Cusick is a joke. Almost every other piece he used to write was about Sinn Fein trying to take over the country. He might have changed tune since I last read, I doubt it though


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 216 ✭✭Geri Male


    Niamh Whore-an is a terrible journalist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Sligo Quay


    Because Eoghan Harris writes for it.
    Well thats 1 of the many reasons why I don't support this rag, I mean Eoghan Harris is so self opinionated, he's right and everybody else is wrong. Well after his very infamous performance backing Bertie the chancer in the 2007 General Election on The Late Late Show and then getting a cushy job on the Seanad Eireann gravy train, his reward from Bertie, he certainly showed flawed judgement on that account, then he has the gall and hard neck to slagged off public sector workers, he certainly feels at home in the Sindo because no other papar would have him. He was never elected by anybody, not even in the Seanad, just a Bertie appointee, these days he's just a sad old man with another opinion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭9959


    Sorry to break-up the cosy consensus, but I occasionally take the Sindo.
    IMO, Gene Kerrigan, Maeve Sheenan and Declan Lynch are good writers and Dion Fanning knows his footy.
    However, I can do without the photos of that fat 'celebrity' solicitor and his unfortunate looking moll.


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