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Traveller woman beaten to death in Louth.**Mod warning in post 1**

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  • #182
    Super-Rush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    charlemont wrote: »
    ****.. So he is the small lad in the video ??? Himself and his brother were on the documentary ??? ****in scumbag, Hope he rots inside.

    I can't remember if his brother was but his father was in it.


  • #183
    stuar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭stuar


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Domestic abuse may be common but it is almost unheard of for a man to assault another mans wife within the traveller community.

    Almost, I don't think the word "Traveller" is used in either article below, but all are members of the travelling community.

    http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/pair-accused-of-car-park-attack-on-family-2648071.html

    http://www.herald.ie/news/feud-calms-as-thug-in-attack-on-car-is-jailed-3145003.html


  • #184
    stuar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭stuar


    Man is charged with murder of his wife in Dundalk, Co Louth

    Gardaí were required to calm tensions in the court room as relatives of the victim shouted abuse at Mr McDonagh.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0901/man-appears-before-special-sitting-of-dundalk-ct.html


    ‘I didn’t mean to kill her, I’m sorry’ – the Words of Jacqueline McDonaghs Husband.
    http://www.98fm.com/2012/category-news-sport/i-didnt-mean-to-kill-her-im-sorry-the-words-of-jacqueline-mcdonaghs-husband/


  • #185
    Duiske
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Duiske


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    I can't remember if his brother was but his father was in it.

    Don't remember the father, but his brother James was definitely in it. He was unbeaten for years, and I think he may have remained unbeaten up to today. The family had lived in Dundalk previously until James was shot in a bar one night. The group involved in the shooting were also rumored to be behind the burning down of Jame's house in Coolock Lane a couple of years back.


  • #186
    Seanchai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    The extent of domestic abuse in the travelling community is far higher than in the settled community.

    Source

    Pavee Point here is quite open about the higher level of domestic abuse in the Traveller community also.


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  • #187
    Super-Rush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Duiske wrote: »
    Don't remember the father, but his brother James was definitely in it. He was unbeaten for years, and I think he may have remained unbeaten up to today. The family had lived in Dundalk previously until James was shot in a bar one night. The group involved in the shooting were also rumored to be behind the burning down of Jame's house in Coolock Lane a couple of years back.

    You're right. I thought they were father and son.


  • #188
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    "The Judge has recommended that he receive appropriate medical treatment."

    I didn't think being a scumbag was an illness that could be cured by medical treatment. Unless they give him a lobotomy.


  • #189
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    face1990 wrote: »
    People trying to work out what age the husband is to see if he might be the culprit, posting statistics on how common wife-beating is in the traveller community.
    And the husband is charged, and the culture of domestic abuse in the Travelling community appears to be highly relevant.

    Not such ridiculous posting after all.


  • #190
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    stuar wrote: »
    Man is charged with murder of his wife in Dundalk, Co Louth

    Gardaí were required to calm tensions in the court room as relatives of the victim shouted abuse at Mr McDonagh.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0901/man-appears-before-special-sitting-of-dundalk-ct.html


    ‘I didn’t mean to kill her, I’m sorry’ – the Words of Jacqueline McDonaghs Husband.
    http://www.98fm.com/2012/category-news-sport/i-didnt-mean-to-kill-her-im-sorry-the-words-of-jacqueline-mcdonaghs-husband/



    They never do mean it, when they get caught. Then they cry like pussies. What a ****ing big pussie.

    Scum bag to do that while his children were around ( not that it was right at anytime, but you know what I mean hopefully)


  • #191
    fergiesfolly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    ermahgerd wrote: »
    Guys, it's their culture and you have to respect it. Leave off.

    You're havin a laugh, right?


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  • #192
    Seanchai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    smash wrote: »
    "The Judge has recommended that he receive appropriate medical treatment."

    I didn't think being a scumbag was an illness that could be cured by medical treatment. Unless they give him a lobotomy.

    That old innocent until proven guilty thing is proving difficult, eh smash?


  • #193
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Seanchai wrote: »
    smash wrote: »
    "The Judge has recommended that he receive appropriate medical treatment."

    I didn't think being a scumbag was an illness that could be cured by medical treatment. Unless they give him a lobotomy.

    That old innocent until proven guilty thing is proving difficult, eh smash?
    He has been found guilty


  • #194
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    smash wrote: »
    He has been found guilty
    Uh, he has been charged. That's not the same thing.


  • #195
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    smash wrote: »
    He has been found guilty

    lol.. I hope you're never called for jury service :p


  • #196
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    smash wrote: »
    He has been found guilty

    We must have some justice system so if he can be arrested interviewed charged and convicted in 48 hours..:rolleyes: Go Ireland Yeah..


  • #197
    Kooli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Kooli


    ermahgerd wrote: »
    Guys, it's their culture and you have to respect it. Leave off.

    Is this supposed to be some satirical swipe at the 'Political Correctness gone mad' brigade who you imagine will rush to defend travellers' rights to beat each other up, even though no one is actually doing or saying that?


  • #198
    Nulty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭Nulty


    Look, some people have an aversion to travelers and seem to be happy to perpetuate a line of "don't bother us and we won't bother you". Those people are happy to accept anything that travelers might do to each other as long as they don't infringe on their own, settled lives.

    That woman (Jacqueline) did not enter her self in a bare knuckle fight nor did any of the other assaulted traveler women who find them selves physically abused by their spouses. Just because they are travelers doesn't make it acceptable for it to happen. If two men want to go and punch the heads off each other because it makes them look tough then so be it but these women are non-combatants and should be afforded the same attention and protection as settled victims of domestic abuse.

    I know it is culture/tradition to beat on your wife "when she deserves it" but that admission does not justify the act. I acknowledge that it is done but that doesn't mean I condone it. It is a disgraceful scenario where a culture has developed where victims of abuse are not even aware of their rights in a so called civilized country like ours.


  • #199
    ermahgerd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 48 ✭ermahgerd


    fergiesfolly wrote: »
    You're havin a laugh, right?
    Haha yeah, I was saying it aloud as I was typing it and was chuckling all the way :)


  • #200
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Lads, he admitted it didn't he? So who cares if he's been charged considering he owned up.


  • #201
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Kooli wrote: »
    Is this supposed to be some satirical swipe at the 'Political Correctness gone mad' brigade who you imagine will rush to defend travellers' rights to beat each other up, even though no one is actually doing or saying that?
    They won't necessarily rush to defend their rights to beat each other up, but they will pretend that domestic violence isn't any more common in the Travelling Community.


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  • #202
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭dvpower


    smash wrote: »
    Lads, he admitted it didn't he? So who cares if he's been charged considering he owned up.
    Convicted you mean?


  • #203
    Jaffusmaximus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 304 ✭✭Jaffusmaximus


    I live in close proximity to what happened and to be honsest they kept pretty much to themselves, we all knew who he was but we all kept our council and gave the benefit of the doubt. But in hind sight it is hard to see how such a man could raise a family and lead the life he has without some adverse mental effect. At the end of it we will no longer see her kids playing in the streets which will make the area a lot quiter. Very tragic!


  • #204
    MusicalMelody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭MusicalMelody


    Absolute Bastard :( RIP!


  • #205
    OnTheCounter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭OnTheCounter


    Nulty wrote: »
    Look, some people have an aversion to travelers and seem to be happy to perpetuate a line of "don't bother us and we won't bother you". Those people are happy to accept anything that travelers might do to each other as long as they don't infringe on their own, settled lives. That woman (Jacqueline) did not enter her self in a bare knuckle fight nor did any of the other assaulted traveler women who find them selves physically abused by their spouses. Just because they are travelers doesn't make it acceptable for it to happen. If two men want to go and punch the heads off each other because it makes them look tough then so be it but these women are non-combatants and should be afforded the same attention and protection as settled victims of domestic abuse. I know it is culture/tradition to beat on your wife "when she deserves it" but that admission does not justify the act. I acknowledge that it is done but that doesn't mean I condone it. It is a disgraceful scenario where a culture has developed where victims of abuse are not even aware of their rights in a so called civilized country like ours.
    they have options.

    not great, and they will be shunned seemingly, but if they want out they report the abuse and soon they and their kids will be housed by the government.

    They choose to put up with it in the majority of cases.

    they have to make the first move to change things for themselves.

    the fact is the majority of female travellers are lovelx people, the majority of male travellers are not.


  • #206
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    As this man has now been charged I think we should let the law take it's course and end the thread.


  • #207
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,077 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    tayto lover wrote: »
    As this man has now been charged I think we should let the law take it's course and end the thread.

    I never knew the guards closed the threads on Boards.


  • #208
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Uh, he has been charged. That's not the same thing.

    He admitted to the killing his wife yes?


  • #209
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    He admitted to the killing his wife yes?
    I don't know what he has admitted.


  • #210
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    He admitted to the killing his wife yes?

    according to a news report earlier, he said he was sorry, and didnt mean to kill her, its somewhere on this thread i think.

    yep, here it is

    http://www.98fm.com/2012/category-news-sport/i-didnt-mean-to-kill-her-im-sorry-the-words-of-jacqueline-mcdonaghs-husband/


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  • #211
    marzic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭marzic


    Rochelle wrote: »
    Like a lot of people my age, I'm 34.

    and me, me too... makes you think.


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