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Are kids really worth all the hassle

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    A lot of people on here worrying that kids would encroach on their free time while at the same time, i suspect, currently using much of their free time to masturbate and scroll through pages of lolcats.

    I never said I make a valuable use of my free time :pac:

    But the issue is that it's my time to spend it as I please, whether that's in the worthy pursuit of caring for sick and injured animals in third world countries while reading the collective works of Beckett, or in scrolling through lolcats. It's not time that's dictated by the needs of a child in my life that I would not be equipped to look after.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭say_who_now?


    1. who would that matter to?

    Well it just matters to me simply because I wouldn't BE here if my parents had thought "we're not having kids".

    2. to admit to that would cause you incredible guilt - so even if you felt regret it's unlikely that you would admit to it

    You clearly don't know me very well.

    3. 'awsome' - such as ?

    Awesome such as the fact that my child makes me laugh for one, another that I get a sense of enormous fulfillment knowing that I am able to provide for another human being and guide them and help them fulfill their potential. There's plenty of upsides to having a child and it'd take a very bitter person to be able to look on having a child as something negative.

    We can all say we love our kids but that's a separate issue from the incredibly difficulty and never-ending job of being a parent.

    I wouldn't have thought of being a parent as an incredibly difficult job, really I think it's as hard as you make it. There have of course been times when I've had to clip him round the ear for his behaviour but on the whole he's a good kid, not some spoiled little brat that I shower with material goods because I can't be arsed to take ten minutes out of the 24 hours in my day to spend time with him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭positron


    "Are kids really worth all the hassle?"

    Yes.

    It's bit like a lazy singleton asking is sex with an actual person (rather than own had) worth all the hassle?

    So the answer is yes, and you will know it when you experience it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    I think you could sum up the thread with: children for some, truck loads of contraception / abortions for others!


    It is quite patronising to get the 'you'll change your mind once you grow up' attitude. I'm grown up enough to know my own mind, and don't need telling I'm missing something in my life, ta. I consider it a little more mature to actually question the assumption that everyone will have children, rather than ignoring it and saying, 'sure what else would you do with your time?'. That's just crazy shizzle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    You don't have to. I really want to some day but that's because I'm fascinated by the scientific and philosophical concept of life as a self sustaining reaction and I regard it as a fundamental purpose to reproduce, and therefore continue "living" even after we ourselves are gone.

    Not everyone is interested in that kind of stuff though and I really hate it when people judge others for choosing not to have kids. If you don't want to then don't! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Greentopia wrote: »
    I never said I make a valuable use of my free time :pac:

    But the issue is that it's my time to spend it as I please, whether that's in the worthy pursuit of caring for sick and injured animals in third world countries while reading the collective works of Beckett, or in scrolling through lolcats. It's not time that's dictated by the needs of a child in my life that I would not be equipped to look after.
    yes it's all about you isn't it.You, you , you , you, you and that's the way you like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭floggg


    positron wrote: »
    "Are kids really worth all the hassle?"

    Yes.

    It's bit like a lazy singleton asking is sex with an actual person (rather than own had) worth all the hassle?

    So the answer is yes, and you will know it when you experience it.

    Stupidest analogy of the year. You'd be doing well if sex lasted an hour. A kid hangs around for about 24 years these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    floggg wrote: »
    Stupidest analogy of the year. You'd be doing well if sex lasted an hour. A kid hangs around for about 24 years these days.

    The initial connection between having sex and having kids was pretty good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭Eden3


    Are you all mad...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Late 30's and female - I would rather die than have children. That may seem dramatic but I have never wanted children and genuinely do not think I'd cope. I've listened to the 'you'll change your mind when you're older' and 'wait until your biological clock starts ticking' nonsense for years, when in fact, the older I get, the more adamant I am.

    I know I would not be a good parent, and admire those who are, but not everyone is parent material.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,165 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    A lot of people on here worrying that kids would encroach on their free time while at the same time, i suspect, currently using much of their free time to masturbate and scroll through pages of lolcats.

    You can still do that when you have kids. Ehhh, my mate who has kids was telling me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Late 30's and female - I would rather die than have children. That may seem dramatic but I have never wanted children and genuinely do not think I'd cope. I've listened to the 'you'll change your mind when you're older' and 'wait until your biological clock starts ticking' nonsense for years, when in fact, the older I get, the more adamant I am.

    I know I would not be a good parent, and admire those who are, but not everyone is parent material.
    well then i thank you on behalf of society for not having kids


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,968 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I'd make a terrible mother, the idea of childbirth terrifies me too.

    It's also a huge responsibility being a parent and I'm not sure I'd do it well.

    Do some people avoid being parents out of fear of failing their children, not because they don't want them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Smelly dirty noisy beautiful creatures who don't let you sleep, they poo all the time, they get sick and they cost lots of money to feed and clothe, and they cramp your freedom! but yes they're well worth the hassle, as you put it :))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭stoneill


    When the get to the age when they can get the beer from the fridge, open it and bring it to you it all becomes worth it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Quorum


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    What else are you going to do?

    What's fun?

    Travelling?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭Mr_Spaceman


    Motorist wrote: »
    Ive spoken to many parents who say having kids is absolute $hit. They long all day for 9pm when they get to spend a miserable two hours in peace.

    They can't do anything, they are broke financially because of the kids, they have no lives anymore.

    FFS. What a life, eh?

    Which begs the obvious: WTF did they have kids for then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭ucd.1985


    TPD wrote: »
    I find this genuinely confusing. What does 'mot' or 'moth' mean when referring to your husband/wife/boyfriend/girlfriend/whatever?

    Comes from the Gaeilge phrase, "cailin maith" which means girlfriend or good girl literally translated.

    The Cailin part was dropped to be left with maith.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    I wouldn't be surprised if many Irish people had kids for the same reason they tick "Catholic" on the census..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    Really hard work
    cost alot of money
    ends your social life as you know it.

    But ye will never love anyone as you do your own child ,

    Your body will not let you socialize like you do when you are in your 20s for long. (your view on life changes as each decade passes)

    When you are old and grey, will you still think the value of a few pound was worth not having your own family around you??

    Feck money. People is where its at.

    I sometimes think I would be better off, but in the bigger picture im a richer man than any pay packet could bring.

    I would hate to be one of those people who have loads of cats to replace their hidden want for children to care for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,781 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I'm 37 and don't have any but I would definately like to have them someday.

    Two of my friends are divorcing now because she wanted kids and he didn't, what's the point in marrying someone who doesn't feel the same about something as important as that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    I'm 37 and don't have any but I would definately like to have them someday.

    Two of my friends are divorcing now because she wanted kids and he didn't, what's the point in marrying someone who doesn't feel the same about something as important as that.


    You would need to get the finger out then. Tick Tock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,781 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    gsxr1 wrote: »
    You would need to get the finger out then. Tick Tock


    Really?

    Do you think I am an old man or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    Really?

    Do you think I am an old man or something?

    37. immm

    Say it takes a few years to find the right woman.

    You have a baby together.

    When your kid is 20, you will be 60.

    And that's if ya get the finger out.

    I dont think you are an oul wan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,781 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    gsxr1 wrote: »
    37. immm

    Say it takes a few years to find the right woman.

    You have a baby together.

    When your kid is 20, you will be 60.

    And that's if ya get the finger out.

    I dont think you are an oul wan.

    That wouldn't bother me, my father was 57 when i was born.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    I really feel we need to get the population down big time, the amount of scum bags on our streets tell us that there's way to many people being brought into this world from parents that cant be a role model for their kids, or have the time to bring them up properly.

    Why does everybody fell you // Have to get married/// have to buy a house/// have kids. Its all bull.

    We need more people in society like the op , need people to just come out and say "I don't want to have kids"

    I have 2 kids and I have to say I really wasn't bothered about having kids at all but felt pressured into having them because thats what you do. Do I have any regrets? not at all , for me its made my life worth living for. But I can imagine loads more people did the same and It Didn't come out the same way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    I really feel we need to get the population down big time, the amount of scum bags on our streets tell us that there's way to many people being brought into this world from parents that cant be a role model for their kids, or have the time to bring them up properly.

    Why does everybody fell you // Have to get married/// have to buy a house/// have kids. Its all bull.

    We need more people in society like the op , need people to just come out and say "I don't want to have kids"

    I have 2 kids and I have to say I really wasn't bothered about having kids at all but felt pressured into having them because thats what you do. Do I have any regrets? not at all , for me its made my life worth living for. But I can imagine loads more people did the same and It Didn't come out the same way.
    Imm you have a point.

    I do think kids should be planned by parents who want kids. Maybe the fact that the OP is considering this makes him/her a good future parent.

    I dont know. Fecking hell. Im dealing with an 8 year old being bullied at the moment. What I felt 8 years ago seems a million years ago now.
    Its not a decision to take lightly. Its a lifetime project that you cant give up on half way through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭Thespoofer


    Have 3 boys. The two youngest can sometimes drive me f*#@ing bananas, to the point I tell my eldest not to get married and have kids ( jokingly...ahem ).

    But after saying that I was once the guy who absolutely LIVED to go out to clubs on the tear, chasing the wimmin and so on to the point of almost ruination..and since settling down with a diamond wife and kids who drive me nuts ( think ' Malcolm in the middle ' ), it has made me a better man, more stable, focussed and even financially better off as I now save my hard earned.

    No pain no gain !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,466 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    As someone who has had to start shift work with maybe 2 or 3 hours sleep on a fairly regular basis, I'd say no to the original question, but overall I'd say yeah, they are definitely worth it.;)

    You get used to the extreme exhaustion.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    What's with so many people thinking we need fewer babies being born, correct me if I'm wrongful but isn't there a problem approaching in that we don't have enough young people to support the growing number of elderly in the first world, we need more kids not less.


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