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Are kids really worth all the hassle

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  • #32
    Motorist
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Motorist


    keith16 wrote: »
    It's not that much hassle. We still have friends, hobbies, a social life etc.

    Your life doesn't end when you have kids.

    I was reluctant like you OP, but I very much enjoy being a parent.

    It seems there is some kind of evolutionary parenting mechanism which kicks in which tries to get you to overlook all the crap you have to deal with when you have a kid - it's kind of analogous to how the body will produce endorphins to block pain after a severe accident.


  • #33
    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Have kids myself and it is not easy. Mind you clubbing every fri and sat night got boring for me about 15 years ago. There just comes a point in your life when its not the be all end all etc.
    And you dont want to leave it till you're 50 to have kids. Think about chasing a 5 year old when you are 55!! Or putting said child through college when you are 60 to 70. Fcuk that!
    On the other end of the scale we have the teen parents. Want to be more or less the same age as your kids when you hit 50?
    I dont know where the happy medium is but we are here to procreate and if we dont we die out. Do you want your genes to die out? Think about that. And think about what genes ARE proliferating today.


  • #34
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,165 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    furiousox wrote: »
    It's only $hit for the first ten years, after that it gets easier.

    Then it gets easier for 2 years, then really difficult till you kick them out.


  • #35
    keith16
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Motorist wrote: »
    strobe wrote: »
    Plenty, but admitting it to anyone would mean admitting it to themselves, and people have a big, useful, guilt enducing and very sensitive trip switch that prevents themselves from doing that when it comes to situations they can't reverse similar to the one you present.

    IMO etc...

    Ive spoken to many parents who say having kids is absolute $hit. They long all day for 9pm when they get to spend a miserable two hours in peace.

    They can't do anything, they are broke financially because of the kids, they have no lives anymore.

    Bigger fools if you ask me.

    They are probably the same type of people who hate Monday's and count down the days to the weekend.

    Living life in a soulless self-made rut.


  • #36
    Motorist
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    furiousox wrote: »
    It's only $hit for the first ten years, after that it gets easier.

    I imagine it's $hit for around 8 years (especially the first 2 or 3 when they can't use a toilet). You have a few years of peace, then they turn into absolute teenage cnuts for around 6 years, then you're free of them albeit badly bruised, down around €250,000 and you're now old and grey. Life is great.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/surviving-the-recession/raising-children-can-be-extremely-expensive-1634030.html


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  • #37
    SafeSurfer
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    Looks like a thinly disguised "I didn't have sex threads".

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #38
    karl_m
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭karl_m


    shedweller wrote: »
    Have kids myself and it is not easy. Mind you clubbing every fri and sat night got boring for me about 15 years ago. There just comes a point in your life when its not the be all end all etc.
    And you dont want to leave it till you're 50 to have kids. Think about chasing a 5 year old when you are 55!! Or putting said child through college when you are 60 to 70. Fcuk that!
    On the other end of the scale we have the teen parents. Want to be more or less the same age as your kids when you hit 50?
    I dont know where the happy medium is but we are here to procreate and if we dont we die out. Do you want your genes to die out? Think about that. And think about what genes ARE proliferating today.

    With 7 billion people on earth, there is no way we'll die out. There Is a case to say that at the moment, there are too many people alive for the current resources. I'm doing my bit, and my family genes and names live on.

    I might donate sperm though, that'll be cool. :eek:


  • #39
    keith16
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Motorist wrote: »
    keith16 wrote: »
    It's not that much hassle. We still have friends, hobbies, a social life etc.

    Your life doesn't end when you have kids.

    I was reluctant like you OP, but I very much enjoy being a parent.

    It seems there is some kind of evolutionary parenting mechanism which kicks in which tries to get you to overlook all the crap you have to deal with when you have a kid - it's kind of analogous to how the body will produce endorphins to block pain after a severe accident.

    Ha-ha! "Daddy, was I an accident?"

    "No son, don't be silly. You were a severe accident!"


  • #40
    ArtSmart
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    thankfully evolutionary genetics takes care of the prob.

    a set number procreate keeping the species going.

    no need for 100% reproduction rates.

    AND it kicks in in the teens, so lots of unexpected 'joy'.


    if it were left to rational thought, the human species would be long extinct.


  • #41
    starbelgrade
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    Motorist wrote: »
    I imagine it's $hit for around 8 years (especially the first 2 or 3 when they can't use a toilet). You have a few years of peace, then they turn into absolute teenage cnuts for around 6 years, then you're free of them albeit badly bruised, down around €250,000 and you're now old and grey. Life is great.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/surviving-the-recession/raising-children-can-be-extremely-expensive-1634030.html

    I wouldn't swap being a dad for all the money in the world.


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  • #42
    NegativeCreep
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    keith16 wrote: »
    Bigger fools if you ask me.

    They are probably the same type of people who hate Monday's and count down the days to the weekend.

    Living life in a soulless self-made rut.

    Who doesn't hate Monday's? They're shit.
    Not everyone is made to be a parent. I know for a fact that I would be crap at it. They annoy me. They ask too many questions, use up money, get into trouble which you are then blamed for, have terrible taste in music and watch those horrible nickelodeon shows all the time. No thanks.


  • #43
    marshbaboon
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    I'm never having kids. Mainly because I'm so irresponsible & clumsy that they'd die before they get to see their 2nd birthday.


  • #44
    ArtSmart
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    starbelgrade wrote: »
    I wouldn't swap being a dad for all the money in the world.
    ok, 10,000 billion. in ur pocket. tonight. u gonna say no?


  • #45
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    I felt the same as you OP all through my 20's and into my early 30's. I now have a 2yr old and another child due any day now. I wouldn't swap them for the world, I would give up absolutely everything for them.

    You may feel that way now and it probably means your just not ready to settle down and start a family just yet but more than likely that will change. I couldn't be bothered going out anymore, it's a pain in the hole apart from the obvious expense. Id rather have a few beers at home lying in comfort on the sofa watching tv.

    Do you really want to be that sad 40 something still out every night at the weekend trying to pretend your 10yrs younger while all your friends are at home with their families?


  • #46
    ArtSmart
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    CJC999 wrote: »
    I felt the same as you OP all through my 20's and into my early 30's. I now have a 2yr old and another child due any day now. I wouldn't swap them for the world, I would give up absolutely everything for them.

    You may feel that way now and it probably means your just not ready to settle down and start a family just yet but more than likely that will change. I couldn't be bothered going out anymore, it's a pain in the hole apart from the obvious expense. Id rather have a few beers at home lying in comfort on the sofa watching tv.

    Do you really want to be that sad 40 something still out every night at the weekend trying to pretend your 10yrs younger while all your friends are at home with their families?
    Dude, you're harshing my buzz


  • #47
    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    watch those horrible nickelodeon shows all the time. No thanks.
    Only if you provide it for them. It can be blocked you know. (of course you knew!)


  • #48
    ArtSmart
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    marshbaboon wrote: »
    I'm never having kids. Mainly because I'm so irresponsible & clumsy that they'd die before they get to see their 2nd birthday.
    well thankfully you have other options to relieve that urge....


    that's right.


    the GAA


  • #49
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    ok, 10,000 billion. in ur pocket. tonight. u gonna say no?

    Not for all the money in the world.


  • #50
    keith16
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    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    keith16 wrote: »
    Bigger fools if you ask me.

    They are probably the same type of people who hate Monday's and count down the days to the weekend.

    Living life in a soulless self-made rut.

    Who doesn't hate Monday's? They're shit.
    Not everyone is made to be a parent. I know for a fact that I would be crap at it. They annoy me. They ask too many questions, use up money, get into trouble which you are then blamed for, have terrible taste in music and watch those horrible nickelodeon shows all the time. No thanks.

    Sounds like that's other kids you are thinking about! Remember, kids are like farts, you can just about tolerate your own!


  • #51
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,165 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    ok, 10,000 billion. in ur pocket. tonight. u gonna say no?

    I would say no. Wouldn't even have to think about it tbh! It's not like a nice car that you put lots of work into, it's something that's just simply not for sale.


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  • #52
    ArtSmart
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    starbelgrade wrote: »
    Not for all the money in the world.
    Ok.

    20,000 billion.


  • #53
    gara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 361 ✭✭gara


    It's all about priorities I guess -for some people the joy their children bring them far outweighs a Saturday night getting sloshed


  • #54
    BESman
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    strobe wrote: »
    People having children they do not want or resent having is the cause of the majority of the human races problems imo.

    This is the most accurate summary of everything that is wrong in the world. I think in the future, sterilisation for some may be a reality and it might not be such a bad thing.


  • #55
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,165 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    Ok.

    20,000 billion.

    He'll accept and you'll hand it over in Zimbabwean dollars.


  • #56
    wonderfulname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    furiousox wrote: »
    It's only $hit for the first ten years, after that it gets easier.
    Ha! Well you never met me as a teenager so...

    What's with all the people thinking there's nothing more to life than either pubs or kids? That's far sadder than any 40 something year old on a night out pretending the ageing process doesn't happen.


  • #57
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,610 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Cienciano wrote: »
    I would say no. Wouldn't even have to think about it tbh! It's not like a nice car that you put lots of work into, it's something that's just simply not for sale.
    nonsense. parents are selling their children for 10 dollars in some parts of the world.

    ok, so you have a few bob etc.

    but what if you were totally broke?


    lol. i'm jus messin around. ;)


  • #58
    keith16
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    gara wrote: »
    It's all about priorities I guess -for some people the joy their children bring them far outweighs a Saturday night getting sloshed

    Getting sloshed with the kids! Genius!


  • #59
    marshbaboon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭marshbaboon


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    well thankfully you have other options to relieve that urge....


    that's right.


    the GAA

    If I had to choose between children and sport, I'd pick suicide.


  • #60
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,610 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    marshbaboon wrote: »
    If I had to choose between children and sport, I'd pick suicide.
    LOL!
    I think i'm in love....

    (em i'm male etc, so er, that's a joke. n stuff)


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  • #61
    Witchie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Witchie


    Yes they are. My 2 sons are the people I enjoy spending time with most in the world. They are great company and fun to be around.

    The first few years were tough but wonderful as you see all their little milestones and watch them grow.

    The middle bit is where you get to have so much fun, building forts, climbing trees, playing football, going camping, taking them to concerts etc.

    The teens can be difficult but thankfully so far my almost 18 yr old has not given me a minutes hassle, he has his leaving cert finished and is heading to uni in a few weeks. His life is now in his own hands and I am happy to say that he is a lovely young lad.

    My younger is 14 (almost 15) and again has barely given me a moment of hassle. I know that may change but I also know he is worth whatever problems he will bring because he is lovely and he is my baby.

    So yes, they are costly, they do leave you tired but there is nothing that compares to their presence in my life......and I have a full social life and a great boyfriend.


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