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Liverpool FC Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/13

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  • #4262
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    I am pie wrote: »
    I would hope that that decision won't be made without the club taking a look at him in several reserve games, which they clearly have with Morgan, who has been successful.

    Due process. Ridiculous to expect he'll play much 1st team stuff this season. It won't happen, and rightly so.

    If he plays in the U21's and NextGen and scores a lot of goals id fully expect him to move into the first team squad ahead of Adam Morgan


  • #4263
    whatawaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    I am pie wrote: »
    murpho999 wrote: »
    If he's better than Morgan then he should be in ahead of him. Fairness has nothing to do with it.

    I would hope that that decision won't be made without the club taking a look at him in several reserve games, which they clearly have with Morgan, who has been successful.

    Due process. Ridiculous to expect he'll play much 1st team stuff this season. It won't happen, and rightly so.

    Morgan hasn't done much at reserve level. Ngoo has looked better


  • #4264
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    whatawaster wrote: »
    Morgan hasn't done much at reserve level.

    Seems to be a swot in training, though :p


  • #4265
    Fowler87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭Fowler87


    Grayditch wrote: »
    whatawaster wrote: »
    Morgan hasn't done much at reserve level.

    Seems to be a swot in training, though :p
    Was it Morgan that got singled out in that Fox clip for rest of the young lads to follow? Say he felt like an awful eejit! Good to see he's improving though in BR mind


  • #4266
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Fowler87 wrote: »
    Was it Morgan that got singled out in that Fox clip for rest of the young lads to follow? Say he felt like an awful eejit! Good to see he's improving though in BR mind

    Yeah, poor lad.


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  • #4267
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    i don't think Morgan is anywhere near good enough for the 1st team


  • #4268
    Whippersnapper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Whippersnapper


    being-liverpool-poster-600x868.jpg

    Promo poster for the show. :pac:


  • #4269
    telekon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    Whippersnapper wrote: »

    Promo poster for the show. :pac:

    Where's Kenny? :(


  • #4270
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    MD1990 wrote: »
    i don't think Morgan is anywhere near good enough for the 1st team

    His all around play could definitely do with some work and he will improve with more competitive games this season with the U21's and NextGen but he is a deadly finisher, if he can improve his overall game then he could be a fixture in the first team for years.


  • #4271
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    Oouu
    @philmcnulty: West Ham thought it would be "a miracle" if they could sign Carroll before the deadline - it is a miracle they still think they can perform.


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  • #4272
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    Melion wrote: »
    His all around play could definitely do with some work and he will improve with more competitive games this season with the U21's and NextGen but he is a deadly finisher, if he can improve his overall game then he could be a fixture in the first team for years.
    not a chance atm imo
    we need to stop overhyping some youngsters eg Flanagan & Robinson
    he hasn't even done it at reserve level
    Morgan will do well to make it in the championship in a few years
    he hasn't got the pace,strength or any sort of linkup play for the top level atm


  • #4273
    Fowler87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭Fowler87


    MD1990 wrote: »
    Melion wrote: »
    His all around play could definitely do with some work and he will improve with more competitive games this season with the U21's and NextGen but he is a deadly finisher, if he can improve his overall game then he could be a fixture in the first team for years.
    not a chance atm imo
    we need to stop overhyping some youngsters eg Flanagan & Robinson
    he hasn't even done it at reserve level
    Morgan will do well to make it in the championship in a few years
    he hasn't got the pace,strength or any sort of linkup play for the top level atm
    Perhaps Flanagan and Morgan need fair bit of improvement and experience but Robinson looks a real talent. Definitely has a future with the club. Even at this stage he should be back up to Enrique imho especially for smaller Prem games


  • #4274
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    Fowler87 wrote: »
    Perhaps Flanagan and Morgan need fair improvement and experience but Robinson looks a real talent. Defintely has a future with the club. Even at this stage he should be back to Enrique imho especially for smaller Prem games
    yeah Robinson is the best out of them
    he has a chance to make it


  • #4275
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    MD1990 wrote: »
    not a chance atm imo
    we need to stop overhyping some youngsters eg Flanagan & Robinson
    he hasn't even done it at reserve level
    Morgan will do well to make it in the championship in a few years
    he hasn't got the pace,strength or any sort of linkup play for the top level atm

    I just said he needs work but he is an absolutely clinical finisher, things like that cannot be taught.


  • #4276
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    Gathering pace ...
    @BenSmithBBC: #WHUFC trying to revive move for Carroll. Now down to whether player will soften desire to stay at Anfield http://t.co/h0cacqKM

    Rodgers will keep nudging if you ask me .


  • #4277
    Strawberry Fields
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    Leiva wrote: »
    Oouu


    http://twitter.com/BenSmithBBC

    Apparently it's down to him now if he wants to stay or cop on to what Rodgers is telling him.


  • #4278
    cloptrop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    Carroll will go in last minute . Pool will take best offer on table.
    I cant see anyone paying over ten mil for him .


  • #4279
    opr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    It's really hard to judge Morgan from watching underage games on TV imo. It's not like watching a winger or midfielder or even a striker who likes to run with the ball. The likes of Suso, Coady, Sterling see loads of the ball on camera in attacking positions so you can see to a good degree the kind of attributes they have as players.

    Often a striker like Morgan is doing plenty of unglamorous things like receiving/holding up the ball passing it out wide and spinning into the box on camera. You don't get to see how hard he is working off the ball, the kind of movement he is constantly making trying to lose his marker or his clever runs. You generally just end up seeing him putting the finishing touch but to be constantly in the right place at the right time is nothing to do with luck. Hard to know when he jumps up to the level of the first team how all that will translate, it's just such a massive jump.

    Opr


  • #4280
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    cloptrop wrote: »
    Carroll will go in last minute . Pool will take best offer on table.
    I cant see anyone paying over ten mil for him .

    Rodgers wont let him go for under 10m


  • #4281
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    opr wrote: »
    It's really hard to judge Morgan from watching underage games on TV imo. It's not like watching a winger or midfielder or even a striker who likes to run with the ball. The likes of Suso, Coady, Sterling see loads of the ball on camera in attacking positions so you can see to a good degree the kind of attributes they have as players.

    Often a striker like Morgan is doing plenty of unglamorous things like receiving/holding up the ball passing it out wide and spinning into the box on camera. You don't get to see how hard he is working off the ball, the kind of movement he is constantly making trying to lose his marker or his clever runs. You generally just end up seeing him putting the finishing touch but to be constantly in the right place at the right time is nothing to do with luck. Hard to know when he jumps up to the level of the first team how all that will translate, it's just such a massive jump.

    Opr

    Thats why i think the more competitive nature of the U21 league and the NextGen will tell us a lot about how he is going to improve.


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  • #4282
    CL7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 684 ✭✭✭CL7


    Leiva wrote: »
    Gathering pace ...



    Rodgers will keep nudging if you ask me .

    Good. The man knows what he wants and he's determined to get it. His comments yesterday make a lot more sense to me now. Hopefully Carroll will listen and try and revive his career at West Ham.


  • #4283
    opr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews
    Sky Sources: West Ham close to agreeing season-long-loan deal with Andy Carroll

    Opr


  • #4284
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    It's stupid if it's just a straight up loan. There could easily come a time where we'll need him.


  • #4285
    CL7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 684 ✭✭✭CL7


    Rodgers will already have lined up a replacement if he goes to West Ham so we won't need him.


  • #4286
    opr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Grayditch wrote: »
    It's stupid if it's just a straight up loan. There could easily come a time where we'll need him.

    It won't be, the deal that has been offered is supposedly the same as before. £3m loan fee plus wages and a further £17m enforced purchase option if they stay up this season.

    Opr


  • #4287
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    Grayditch wrote: »
    It's stupid if it's just a straight up loan. There could easily come a time where we'll need him.

    Nah I would say its back to the original offer £2mil now plus full wage, and £17mil on survival.


  • #4288
    whatawaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    Good deal if it goes through


  • #4289
    Whippersnapper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Whippersnapper


    opr wrote: »
    It won't be, the deal that has been offered is supposedly the same as before. £3m loan fee plus wages and a further £17m enforced purchase option if they stay up this season.

    Opr


    I have to want West Ham to stay up this season?! Aw, man. :mad:


  • #4290
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    whatawaster wrote: »
    Good deal if it goes through

    I disagree, we have been burned enough on loan deals in the past. If West Ham dont stay up, we get Andy back next summer and he is worth a lot less than 17m.


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  • #4291
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    id say we are buying Dempsey
    but who will be replacing Carroll?
    Aubameyang?


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