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4,000 new citizens, a day to celebrate.

  • 30-08-2012 03:56PM
    #1
    SocSocPol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭


    4,000 people from 115 different countries became Irish citizens today
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0830/4-000-become-irish-citizens.html
    Justice Minister Alan Shatter described our new fellow citizens as having "enriched the country", I have to say I whole heartedly agree with him.
    Since these ceramonies began last June 14,000 people have become Irish citizens.


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  • #2
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    coat dragging thread drags it coat


  • #3
    Agricola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Feckin foreigners, comin over 'ere tekken our............. er...... nevermind!


  • #4
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    fcuking paddies! breedin' like rabbits


  • #5
    The_Minister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Great, we can fill some of the space made by young people forced to leave.


  • #6
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    All working hard i hope


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  • #7
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    The_Minister wrote: »
    Great, we can fill some of the space made by young people forced to leave.

    If we can have more of the old irish leave we'll have more space for the shiney new Irish to "enrich the country" even more. Huzzah!


  • #8
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭conorhal


    SocSocPol wrote: »
    4,000 people from 115 different countries became Irish citizens today
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0830/4-000-become-irish-citizens.html
    Justice Minister Alan Shatter described our new fellow citizens as having "enriched the country", I have to say I whole heartedly agree with him.
    Since these ceramonies began last June 14,000 people have become Irish citizens.

    I've really tired of this 'culturally enriched' meme that the left perpetrate, many of whom are the very same people that that rather ironically sneer at any and every assertion of indigenous Irish culture.

    I've also yet to experience this 'cultural enrichment', or have anybody explain exactly how my life has been 'enhanced’ by it.
    Perhaps I have failed to fully appreciate the cultural value of my Eastern European neighbors all night vodka parties and casual knife crime (neighbor stabbed to death a few years ago at a party). Nor does my trip into work feel 'enhanced' by the burka brigade on the bus with their kids and male 'chaperone', in fact I find it somewhat disquieting to have to sit in proximity to somebody wearing a mask and seated next to her bouncer. Nor does half of Nigeria swaggering around the Square where I shop dressed as identikit gangstas in their trackies and chains seem very 'culturally enhancing' either, and I've yet to figure out how the default cultural expression of most Africans in the area appears to be the culture of South Central Los Angeles to which (as far as I can gather anyway) they have no connection.

    I get the distinct feeling that those who bang on about 'cultural vibrancy' tend to be the kind of people that turn up at the annual DunLaoghaire 'Festival of Cultures' to eat a samosa, watch some Thai's dance and buy a colorful hat before fecking off back home to Dublin 4, because they sure as hell don't live in the pretty alienating world of vibrant multicultural Dublin that I do.


  • #9
    Colmustard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    HaHA saps don't they know the place is sinking talk about backing the wrong horse.

    I just hope some of them are good at track and field.


  • #10
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Any potential Usain Bolts amongst them?


  • #11
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Wow! The thread lasted 8 posts before the bitterness started.

    That's got to be some sort of record.


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  • #12
    Colmustard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    conorhal wrote: »
    I've really tired of this 'culturally enriched' meme that the left perpetrate, many of whom are the very same people that that rather ironically sneer at any and every assertion of indigenous Irish culture.

    I've also yet to experience this 'cultural enrichment', or have anybody explain exactly how my life has been 'enhanced’ by it.
    Perhaps I have failed to fully appreciate the cultural value of my Eastern European neighbors all night vodka parties and casual knife crime (neighbor stabbed to death a few years ago at a party). Nor does my trip into work feel 'enhanced' by the burka brigade on the bus with their kids and male 'chaperone', in fact I find it somewhat disquieting to have to sit in proximity to somebody wearing a mask and seated next to her bouncer. Nor does half of Nigeria swaggering around the Square where I shop dressed as identikit gangstas in their trackies and chains seem very 'culturally enhancing' either, and I've yet to figure out how the default cultural expression of most Africans in the area appears to be the culture of South Central Los Angeles to which (as far as I can gather anyway) they have no connection.

    I get the distinct feeling that those who bang on about 'cultural vibrancy' tend to be the kind of people that turn up at the annual DunLaoghaire 'Festival of Cultures' to eat a samosa, watch some Thai's dance and buy a colorful hat before fecking off back home to Dublin 4, because they sure as hell don't live in the pretty alienating world of vibrant multicultural Dublin that I do.

    I don't feel culturally enriched by their presence it just makes Ireland look a lot less inbred.

    I am indifferent to them, which is a good way to be. They are just people.


  • #13
    Chucken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    This has been done not too long ago

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79249144


  • #14
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    conorhal wrote: »
    I've really tired of this 'culturally enriched' meme that the left perpetrate, many of whom are the very same people that that rather ironically sneer at any and every assertion of indigenous Irish culture

    That's some mighty fine generalising there buddy. You keep it up now, y'hear?


  • #15
    jester77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Got to replace all those leaving ;)


  • #16
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    That's some mighty fine generalising there buddy. You keep it up now, y'hear?

    Would that be generalizing in the same manner that claiming that 4,000 people will enrich a society solely because they come from somewhere else?


    Or would that be a different type of generalizing? :confused:


  • #17
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Bambi wrote: »
    Would that be generalizing in the same manner that claiming that 4,000 people will enrich a society solely because they come from somewhere else?

    Or would that be a different type of generalizing? :confused:

    It's the same type. But I'm more inclined to believe that someone who has been here for a while, applied and gained their citizenship will have something to offer.

    The blanket "what the **** do them lefties know about anything blah blah blah" type of generalising normally comes from the auld bitter-chip-on-the-shoulder end of things and is more amusing to me. So I support it fully while believing none of it.

    In the same breath people who complain like that will also give out about illegals and people sponging off the dole. Then they'll go on to complain about people becoming legal citizens. Well "send them all back to where they came from" is not far behind I'd imagine.


  • #18
    purplepanda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    Perhaps Minister Shatter should follow Israels example of enrichment?


    http://articles.cnn.com/2012-06-17/middleeast/world_meast_israel-deports-immigrants_1_illegal-migrants-african-countries-south-sudan?_s=PM:MIDDLEEAST

    ""Today, the government will begin the operation to repatriate illegal work infiltrators to their countries of origin," Netanyahu said, according to a cabinet communique released by Israel's foreign ministry. "We will do this is an orderly and dignified manner."

    Whilst hundreds of thousands of young Irish are leaving their homeland due to unemployment this policy is complete madness :mad:


  • #19
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Well "send them all back to where they came from" is not far behind I'd imagine.
    purplepanda wrote: »
    Perhaps Minister Shatter should follow Israels example of enrichment?

    ...... see what I mean? :pac:


  • #20
    purplepanda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    ...... see what I mean? :pac:

    So you would advocate an "open door" "new citizen" policy for would be illegal immigrants arriving in Ireland. :eek:

    There's massive unemplyoyment & recession so there shouldn't be any "new citizens" until the current situation improves.


  • #21
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    purplepanda wrote: »
    So you would advocate an "open door" "new citizen" policy for would be illegal immigrants arriving in Ireland. :eek:
    Wow. That's quite a strawman you've got yourself there.


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  • #22
    Attabear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Attabear


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Wow! The thread lasted 8 posts before the bitterness started.

    That's got to be some sort of record.

    Typical After Hours exaggeration.

    The bitterness began at post 5.


  • #23
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    purplepanda wrote: »
    There's massive unemplyoyment & recession so there shouldn't be any "new citizens" until the current situation improves.

    So, forced abortions for all until things pick up again?


  • #24
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    conorhal wrote: »
    they sure as hell don't live in the pretty alienating ... Dublin that I do.



    Indeed I don't, and I'm glad of it.


  • #25
    al28283
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    So, forced abortions for all until things pick up again?

    Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others


  • #26
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    purplepanda wrote: »
    So you would advocate an "open door" "new citizen" policy for would be illegal immigrants arriving in Ireland. :eek:

    There's massive unemplyoyment & recession so there shouldn't be any "new citizens" until the current situation improves.

    The thread is about people who have become Irish citizens. No 'illegal' about this at all.

    But thanks for playing and giving me a great laugh!


  • #27
    brimal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭brimal


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    The thread is about people who have become Irish citizens. No 'illegal' about this at all.

    But thanks for playing and giving me a great laugh!

    Your 'see what I mean' post was referring to Israel's no-nonsense approach to illegal immigrants.

    What's wrong with deporting people who are in the country illegally?


  • #28
    bodice ripper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    I can't believe that anyone needs an itemized list of reasons that having some other cultures around is a bonus.

    what crap little world do you live in?


  • #29
    andrew
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    This whole closed boarders thing is silly anyway. People should be able to live and work anywhere in the world they feel like living.


  • #30
    asherbassad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    All working hard i hope

    Probably harder than people who loiter on boards all day :pac:


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  • #31
    MaxSteele
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    andrew wrote: »
    This whole closed boarders thing is silly anyway. People should be able to live and work anywhere in the world they feel like living.

    Too many different clash of cultures. Me and you couldn't head to the U.A.E for a piss up because we choose to could we ? or have a slap up steak meal.

    Likewise a muslim couldn't move here, sit outside the local centra and light up a bong filled with opium either.


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