Liverpool FC Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/13

Carroll will apparently be left out of the squad for the game against Hearts. I really hope we can find a club for him because if we don't then it's clear he will be sitting on the bench this season.

Des wrote: »

Amounts are meaningless without incomings - to give us a figure of Outgoings - Incomes from transfers, a term I refuse to use in this thread.

Another reason its fairly pointless is that it doesnt take into account EPL clubs business with each other, essentially just a movement of the same money.

If A sells B 50m worth over 5 years and B sells A 50m worth over the same period. Basically nothing has been spent but figures will say 100m spent.

Vicxas wrote: »

Liverpool want to sign Athletic Bilbao striker Fernando Llorente, 27, if they can sell Carroll before Friday's transfer deadline.

From the S*n, probably f**king with us again...

Oh and goal.com have an "Exclusive" that we are trying to close the Dempsey deal by including some fringe or your players, but doesn't say which players or whether sale/loan.

Not much of an exclusive...

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Carroll will apparently be left out of the squad for the game against Hearts. I really hope we can find a club for him because if we don't then it's clear he will be sitting on the bench this season.

Prepare for a day of David Craig standing in front of Mike Ashley's helicopter trying not to orgasm every half an hour, tomorrow.

Buck is fairly clear on where Carroll and Col stand :eek:

Brendan Rodgers has described Andy Carroll as a 'cover player' but says Liverpool are in no position to have a £35million signing as their third-choice striker.
Carroll joined the Reds in a big-money deal from Newcastle 18 months ago but his future has been the subject of intense speculation since Rodgers took charge of the club over the summer after it became clear he did not fit into the manager's preferred playing style.
However, the situation has become complicated as Liverpool want a good price for a player they spent so much on, while Carroll appears keen to stay at Anfield and fight for a place in the team.
Rodgers has nothing but praise for the 23-year-old's attitude but believes players who are not part of his plans should be looking to move on in search of more regular football.
"You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see Andy's been a cover player but he's been excellent in his attitude and acceptance of where he is at," Rodgers said.
"But, as a club, I'm not sure we are in a position to have £35million players as third-choice strikers, or a winger on £5-6m a year.
"There's still a wee bit of thinking time, and it's hard to walk away from here. The ones who want to play will probably look elsewhere, irrespective of finance, because that's their passion."
Financial repair
Liverpool have been connected with moves for a number of players but Rodgers admits he cannot bring in reinforcements while there are so many fringe men reluctant to leave.
He explained: "The club financially needs repair. So to sign the players linked, unfortunately I don't have the ability to do that - not in this window anyway.
"This is an incredible club and some players, even if you want to move them on, won't walk out.
"I can only ever be straight with players.
"I've made it clear my group will be made up of starting players, cover players who can come in, and development players who can progress.
"If you feature outside of that I will tell you and then it is up to the player what they want - do they want to play football?"

Ben

wonderfullife wrote: »

His wife is Carly Zucker. A typical "WAG" fond of her designer clothes, fame etc. Serious question was - would she be a negative influence blocking a move? Footballers always come out with the "do what's best for my family" line and i guess she wouldn't be in love with a massive drop in his salary. Less money, less Gucci.

Roy Keane had it spot on:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/6947333.stm

"These so-called big stars are people we are supposed to be looking up to. Well, they are weak and soft.

"If they don't want to come because their wife wants to go shopping in London, it's a sad state of affairs."

Speaking ahead of Sunderland's trip to Birmingham, he told reporters: "I can understand the attraction of people wanting to go to London - if you are talking about Arsenal, Chelsea or Tottenham.

"If people want to go somewhere else to another football club then fair enough, as long as it is for a footballing reason.

''But there are players going to clubs in London simply because it is London. To me, that is wrong.

"It is not a football move, it is a lifestyle move and those are the type of people you don't want at your club. It is not a problem for me but it is a fact.

"To me, that player is weak because his wife runs his life.

"That happens at the big clubs as well. I could name four big players and clearly their wives and girlfriends are running their lives because they are doing these photoshoots and that kind of stuff.

"They say they are not comfortable doing it and are being dragged along. Well don't do it."

But Keane's fierce determination and dedication to the game made him one of the most successful players in the history of English football.

He revealed: "A couple of years ago I nearly went to Juventus. People spoke to me about Turin and told me Milan would be a nicer place to go.

"I told them I wasn't going for the shops, I am going because it is Juventus.

"If there is nothing to do then find something to do. Someone once told me that people who are bored are boring.

"People who get bored coming to the north-east are bored because they are boring. It is nothing to do with the shops.

"Maybe it is because I am not a great shopper but football has got to be a priority.

"You don't need to live in Manchester or London to be happy. You don't need to be surrounded by expensive shops or fancy cars.

"We have had one or two players this year and their wives are clearly part of the package.

"We had one player this summer who didn't even have the courtesy to call us back because his wife wanted to move to London - and shopping was mentioned."

wonderfullife wrote: »

His wife is Carly Zucker. A typical "WAG" fond of her designer clothes, fame etc. Serious question was - would she be a negative influence blocking a move? Footballers always come out with the "do what's best for my family" line and i guess she wouldn't be in love with a massive drop in his salary. Less money, less Gucci.

A pretty shoddy argument. If you were married and you went home and told the wife you were moving AGAIN and taking maybe a 40% pay-cut, and you are VOLUNTEERING to do this - would she be delighted?

Truth is, we don't know. I am sure he wants to play football, but you can imagine his unwillingless to leave a club like Liverpool...

BenThere wrote: »

He explained: "The club financially needs repair. So to sign the players linked, unfortunately I don't have the ability to do that - not in this window anyway.

There you have it from the horses mouth - Comolli and Kenny fcuked the club.

We could have been in the position to make a move for Llorente for about £25m if we hadn't spunked the cash on Carroll :mad:

Francie Barrett wrote: »

There you have it from the horses mouth - Comolli and Kenny fcuked the club.

We could have been in the position to make a move for Llorente for about £25m if we hadn't spunked the cash on Carroll :mad:

Assuming we could attract him while we are not playing in the Champions League...

Francie Barrett wrote: »

These spreadsheets get thrown about too often in my opinion. I saw with my own eyes how poorly Downing was last season. There were times last seasons where he might have attempted 10 crosses in a match and connected with none. His dribbling was generally poor too, typically he would beat one player, then run into the next and lose the ball. Whatever you say about Walcott, even if he was completely dreadful in a decent amount of games, he was quality in quite a few as well. The only time that Downing really stood out for me was for the Carling Cup final. Walcott on the other hand was brilliant in a few games, notably in the demolition of Spurs.

Well if we are going to just have opinions then fine, i thought Downing was ok.

From what i was watching there was nobody to cross to a lot of the time, strikers on edge of box and no mids pushing on. And the full story of that is in our scoring record. We created the chances and people did not take them.

Id have taken Johnson over Walcott every day of the week. I think Johnson is on 50k p/w now. Walcott has a supposed offer of 75k and turning it down.

daithijjj wrote: »

Id have taken Johnson over Walcott every day of the week. I think Johnson is on 50k p/w now. Walcott has a supposed offer of 75k and turning it down.

Well, I agree with you on that at least.

I personally don't see much chance of Liverpool getting Llorente

amiable wrote: »

I personally don't see much chance of Liverpool getting Llorente

Too good to be true, but if we got £5m for Adam and £15m for Carroll.....