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Israel part of Europe?

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  • #62
    Franticfrank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭Franticfrank


    Cyprus is in Europe and that isn't too far away from Israel. If you drive from central Europe to Israel, first you'll pass through Turkey, Syria and Lebanon. You'll have to include them geographically if you're including Israel. And I don't think anyone would consider Syria part of Europe.


  • #63
    getz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    Cú Giobach wrote: »
    I don't think just being an Islamic country really means the Turks have or feel closer ties to the Middle East, most of the world's Muslims live in South and Southeast Asia and the largest Islamic country is Indonesia.
    Turks are not Arabic and hate it when some westerners make the mistake of referring to them as such, their roots are Central Asian.
    Young people from Turkey (a huge proportion of the population) tend identify very much with Europe.
    turkey ,now thats one strange thing, a tale of two cities,constantinople former name of istanbul,it was named after the emperor constantine,and it was declared the capital of the byzantine empire[,western europe],then it was taken over by the turks,and became the capital of the ottoman empire [aisa] now they are trying their best to be part of the EU,experts are now saying the english came from turkey nine thousand years ago


  • #64
    Pawwed Rig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,502 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Cú Giobach wrote: »
    I don't think just being an Islamic country really means the Turks have or feel closer ties to the Middle East, most of the world's Muslims live in South and Southeast Asia and the largest Islamic country is Indonesia.
    Turks are not Arabic and hate it when some westerners make the mistake of referring to them as such, their roots are Central Asian.
    Young people from Turkey (a huge proportion of the population) tend identify very much with Europe.

    That is true and Turkey was traditionally the centre of the Eastern Roman Empire which would undoubtably be identified with Europe. It's secularism (in the western part at least) would put it on par with European sensibilities but as you said their roots are central Asia.
    I am not sure I agree with you about the location of most of the worlds muslims. Indonesia and Malaysia is the only countries in South East Asia I can think of that is muslim. China, Japan, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Philippines, Papau New Guinea, India - none of these are predominatly muslim. You could maybe argue that Pakistan would be South East Asia but it has greater ties with the Middle East.


  • #65
    Cú Giobach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    That is true and Turkey was traditionally the centre of the Eastern Roman Empire which would undoubtably be identified with Europe. It's secularism (in the western part at least) would put it on par with European sensibilities but as you said their roots are central Asia.
    I am not sure I agree with you about the location of most of the worlds muslims. Indonesia and Malaysia is the only countries in South East Asia I can think of that is muslim. China, Japan, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Philippines, Papau New Guinea, India - none of these are predominatly muslim. You could maybe argue that Pakistan would be South East Asia but it has greater ties with the Middle East.
    South Asia consists of the sub Himalayan countries from Pakistan to Bangladesh including India.
    South East Asia is from Myanmar (Burma) to Indonesia.
    East Asia is China, Korea, Japan.
    West Asia is more commonly called The Middle East and starts with Iran and continues West.
    North Asia is really just Russia.
    With Central Asia being, well..... central. :)

    Pakistan was called India not too long ago. ;)


  • #66
    Toby Take a Bow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Kazakhstan are a member of UEFA!

    Because part of their country is in Europe. I guess they could choose.


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  • #67
    Pawwed Rig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,502 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Cú Giobach wrote: »
    ;)
    South Asia consists of the sub Himalayan countries from Pakistan to Bangladesh including India.
    South East Asia is from Myanmar (Burma) to Indonesia.
    East Asia is China, Korea, Japan.
    West Asia is more commonly called The Middle East and starts with Iran and continues West.
    North Asia is really just Russia.
    With Central Asia being, well..... central. :)

    Pakistan was once called India not to long ago.

    South Asia and South East Asia are different things. So there are 3 Muslim countries in Sth and Sth East Asia (admittedly very populous).
    India, Pakistan, Bangladesh is generally taken as it's own sub continent.
    you could equally say that most of the worlds muslims are in the Middle east and South Asia but that is just splitting hairs.
    Philippines used to be muslim before the holy Spaniards converted them


  • #68
    Solair
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,226 ✭✭✭Solair


    The European Broadcasting Union is actually nothing to do with the EU.

    The EBU is just a group of 70+ broadcasters who cooperate on mostly technical issues. There are even some members in the US and quite a few in Africa.

    Its main purpose is providing broadcast support facilities e.g. news sharing networks and developing technical standards.

    Israel uses European technical standards for most things e.g. PAL television in the analogue days and DVB standards in the digital era. It also pretty much follows ETSI (Telecommunication) and CENELEC standards for electrical stuff.

    A heap of other countries also plug-in to European standards.

    For example, GSM was a European standards which is now the most widespread mobile phone platform on the planet.
    Most countries also use 230V 50Hz power and an awful lot of them use European CEE plugs and sockets either the large industrial ones used by everyone, or the 2-pin recessed grounded outlets used in houses.

    I think a lot of people confuse some of these technical bodies with parts of the EU though.

    A lot of Latin American counties borrow US, European and Japanese standards too. It's just how the world works, small countries can't really develop these things on their own as they wouldn't have the economies of scale, so they plug-in to a bigger bloc.

    Israel's broadcasters probably joined up the EBU in the 1950s/60s to cooperate on news programming, international links, standards, satellite technology etc etc.

    They pay their fees, and they get membership. It's not political and it's nothing to do with the EU.

    Also, the country of Israel isn't a member of the EBU, the Israeli Broadcasting Authority (IBA), a public-service broadcaster is.
    Ireland isn't a member of the EBU either, RTE & TG4 are.
    In the UK : BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and S4C Wales.

    It has other odd members like Vatican Radio.

    The Eurovision song contest is increasingly a total mess though. I'd say it'll be time to scrap it eventually.

    Technically speaking, if RTE got fed up with the Eurovision they could let TG4 do it instead as they're both members.

    As for Israel being part of Europe - no, it's part of the Middle East geographically. There's no real confusion about that at all.


  • #69
    Cú Giobach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Won't argue about that. So there are 3 Muslim countries in Sth East Asia (admittedly very populous).
    India, Pakistan, Bangladesh is generally taken as it's own sub continent so personally I would not consider them S E Asia but I suppose it is a matter of opinion.
    Philippines used to be muslim before the holy Spaniards converted them
    Calling India, Pakistan and Bangladesh South Asia is the official UN designation not an opinion. Check out the World Bank's list of countries and here is Wiki on it.
    Some other countries are questionable but not the three mentioned.

    If you look at the full map of Asia you will see how this makes sense.


  • #70
    Pawwed Rig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,502 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Cú Giobach wrote: »
    Calling India, Pakistan and Bangladesh South Asia is the official UN designation not an opinion. Check out the World Bank's list of countries and here is Wiki on it.
    Some other countries are questionable but not the three mentioned.

    If you look at the full map of Asia you will see how this makes sense.

    I thought I put that in my post? I said India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are considered on their own (ie their own sub continent). I fear we are agreeing here:p


  • #71
    Cú Giobach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    I thought I put that in my post? I said India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are considered on their own (ie their own sub continent). I fear we are agreeing here:p
    I was just saying it's not a matter of opinion as you mentioned, they really are in south Asia, it might not seem quite right until you actually look at a map and then it becomes obvious. :)


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  • #72
    2ndcoming
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    wendell borton wrote: »
    it's part of eurasia.

    Aren't we at war with Eurasia? I thought we've always been at war with Eurasia??


  • #73
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    No fcukin' way. Having Israel in the EU would be as bad as having Turkey in the EU. Worse, probably.


  • #74
    Solair
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,226 ✭✭✭Solair


    I think Turkey's cooling off EU membership now that the EU's screwed up so badly and it's relatively prosperous.


  • #75
    Toby Take a Bow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    Solair wrote: »
    I think Turkey's cooling off EU membership now that the EU's screwed up so badly and it's relatively prosperous.

    Last I heard the EU were still humming and hawing about their membership. They still seemed to want membership. Maybe something's changed recently? I think the EU is considered beneficial mainly due to trading.


  • #76
    Augmerson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    NiallSparky wrote: »
    It has a border with Syria which itself has a border with Turkey.

    Touche.


  • #77
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    TG4 hosting the Eurovision - lots of hot gaelgoirs no one knew existed


  • #78
    Peanut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭Peanut


    Toby Take a Bow wrote: »
    Last I heard the EU were still humming and hawing about their membership. They still seemed to want membership. Maybe something's changed recently? I think the EU is considered beneficial mainly due to trading.

    Not much happening about it at the moment, as far as I know the current main stumbling block is agreement over Cyprus re: opening shipping ports and the general situation there.


  • #79
    Toby Take a Bow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    Peanut wrote: »
    Not much happening about it at the moment, as far as I know the current main stumbling block is agreement over Cyprus re: opening shipping ports and the general situation there.

    Yeah, but I get the impression they still want it. They're unrealistic about it, but they still seem to want it.


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