Bin Laden kill mission on RTE

Sappa · 29-08-2012 12:30AM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

I never watched such garbage in my life. The thing about measuring Bin Laden by his shadow was just ridiculous. Also the bit thrown in about murdering three thousand innocent people and this by a country whose past leaders have murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and everywhere else they could get away with it or should that not be mentioned.

A bit like the ****e they spout about the necessity to drop the nukes on Hiroshima,the Japs were finished well before that and the President was against a nuke but military command wanted to test it out.
There is huge controversy about this but it's always hushed up a select fee in the military persuaded the droppi
G of this device and the second one was to see the effects and prove a point that they had this device.

Tigerandahalf · 29-08-2012 12:30AM

Geekness1234 wrote: »

Seems hard to believe Obama and the US would take such a risk with an operation without the go ahead of Pakistan.

That's why it was so risky in the first place.
Pakistan has a fairly capable air force thanks to Foriegn Military Aid as well as an intricate Radar network.
The Pakistani military initially thought the attack was Indian in origin,but by the time they had prepped F-16s for launch it was over,as well as being out of reach of most Indian helicopters.
Just shows how little America trusts Pakistan.

I get the feeling that Pakistan was either in on the operation or didnt take any action when they discovered what happened. I find the latter unlikely though as it could have triggered off a huge conflict.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 29-08-2012 12:31AM

Deliverance wrote: »

Those blackhawks keep going down don't they.

Sluts.

Geekness1234 · 29-08-2012 12:34AM

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Would he have taken such a big risk without Pakistan being in on the operation.

Yes.
With him dead,NATO,more particularly America can declare mission accomplished and go home.That's worth far more to them than frosty relations with Pakistan.
After all,there's nothing Foriegn Aid can fix.

stateofflux · 29-08-2012 12:35AM

Happyman42 wrote: »

I have never seen such a preposterous, unchallenged, American glorifying pile of propaganda tosh in my life. There is a fine line between documentary and spoof, it would seem.

one of the few intelligent replies of this thread

Tigerandahalf · 29-08-2012 12:35AM

One thing you have to say is that the Navy Seals are some operators. They were taking a huge risk going through the compound taking out people as they saw them.

Geekness1234 · 29-08-2012 12:36AM

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

I get the feeling that Pakistan was either in on the operation or didnt take any action when they discovered what happened. I find the latter unlikely though as it could have triggered off a huge conflict.

Given the speed of the operation I doubt they knew to be honest.

Gee Bag · 29-08-2012 12:38AM

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

One thing you have to say is that the Navy Seals are some operators. They were taking a huge risk going through the compound taking out people as they saw them.

If your going to fap about Navy Seals all night long would you mind doing it in private?

Geekness1234 · 29-08-2012 12:38AM

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

One thing you have to say is that the Navy Seals are some operators. They were taking a huge risk going through the compound taking out people as they saw them.

They are indeed.
Hats off to these lads and their dog Cairo.

Happyman42 · 29-08-2012 12:40AM

Corkblowin wrote: »

What exactly was preposterous about it?

The entire PR aspect of it from the get go. I didn't pay much attention to the fact that they got him at the time, but after seeing that rubbish and Obama's participation in it I am convinced that it was an excercise in propaganda.

They probably had intelligence that Bin Laden died in his wifes arms somewhere cozy, but that scnario didn't suit the warmongers. He had to die at their hands. So invent a fantastic story where the Americans get their man, and the 'war on terror is vindicated, safe in the knowledge that he isn't gonna turn up to embarass them.

^^ that's more believeable than the stage managed tosh we where presented with tonight.

Prick! · 29-08-2012 12:40AM

I really want to believe it's true.

And the speech announcing the US had killed Osama gave me goosebumps.

You just felt it's of "MASSIVE" importance. We witnessed history.

I still find the whole military situation in the world intriguing, in the 21st Century and there's still friends and enemies.

Tigerandahalf · 29-08-2012 12:43AM

Ya they are highly trained blokes. Yet one slip and it is all over. I guess after that operation they can all retire happy with a good story for the grandchildren.

MusicalMelody · 29-08-2012 12:43AM

Interesting programme... Not too sure about the truth in it all though!

syklops · 29-08-2012 12:44AM

Prick! wrote: »

I really want to believe it's true.

And the speech announcing the US had killed Osama gave me goosebumps.

You just felt it's of "MASSIVE" importance. We witnessed history.

I still find the whole military situation in the world intriguing, in the 21st Century and there's still friends and enemies.

And sooo many idiots floating around aswell.

LETHAL LADY · 29-08-2012 12:47AM

There was also an attempt to justify Guantanamo Bay as the source of information that lead to the death of Bin Laden, sure we all know tis just a holiday camp.

Thelonious · 29-08-2012 12:48AM

Corkblowin wrote: »

I love how some people just KNOW stuff without any proof or backup other than what they've made up in their own heads!

Actually, I never said I know anything for certain. I just don't believe everything I'm told. Unlike yourself.

Prick! · 29-08-2012 12:48AM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

There was also an attempt to justify Guantanamo Bay as the source of information that lead to the death of Bin Laden, sure we all know tis just a holiday camp.

Hassan ghul spilled the beans it's said on who Osamas right hand man was, they got pakistani cia members to find him then. He was rarely seen to this is why they thought al kuwaiti was withh Osama.

MHalberstram · 29-08-2012 12:49AM

Everything is a conspiracy these days.

Tigerandahalf · 29-08-2012 12:49AM

Why would they lose a helipcopter worth 60 million in an operation then though and all the work and prep that went into it. It seems they first got a break by tracking an associate's mobile call. Pretty amazing what Bin Laden's side was doing to avoid detection re using sim cards only once and only using internet cafes once.

B.A._Baracus · 29-08-2012 12:53AM

Shame I missed this

Reckon it'll be on the rte player?

**edit**
Its actually already up.

http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=10045266

Geekness1234 · 29-08-2012 12:53AM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

There was also an attempt to justify Guantanamo Bay as the source of information that lead to the death of Bin Laden, sure we all know tis just a holiday camp.

But overseas sites like Guantanamo,were the source of information.
So they did justify their use somewhat.

LETHAL LADY · 29-08-2012 12:53AM

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Why would they lose a helipcopter worth 60 million in an operation then though and all the work and prep that went into it. It seems they first got a break by tracking an associate's mobile call. Pretty amazing what Bin Laden's side was doing to avoid detection re using sim cards only once and only using internet cafes once.

Oily, Oily, Oily, Oil, Oil, Oil, 60 million is a drop in the ocean no pun intended.

Geekness1234 · 29-08-2012 12:55AM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

Oily, Oily, Oily, Oil, Oil, Oil, 60 million is a drop in the ocean no pun intended.

Actually given the way it was the child of a clandestine or "Black" project, I'd say it wasnt the financial side of the loss they were worrying about.

Tigerandahalf · 29-08-2012 12:57AM

Just read online there now that a few days after the killing Al Queda came out and vowed revenge for the killing. Thus unlikely that Bin Laden died in other circumstances.

Happyman42 · 29-08-2012 01:01AM

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Why would they lose a helipcopter worth 60 million in an operation then though

Because they were stupid?

They didn't reckon there would be a column of warm air rising from an enclosed courtyard.....a common and greatly feared situation for pilots, we where breathlessly told.......but they did remember to order in pizzas from 30 different shops.
They used valuable time, we were breathlessly told to find out what height he was and to photograph the body....but the crucial thing was to take the body away for DNA testing? FFS! It's a wonder they didn't stop off for a snack box someplace.:rolleyes:

LETHAL LADY · 29-08-2012 01:03AM

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Just read online there now that a few days after the killing Al Queda came out and vowed revenge for the killing. Thus unlikely that Bin Laden died in other circumstances.

It is only propaganda, I take neither side, an awful lot of innocent people have died all over the world in the name of greed and war.

Happyman42 · 29-08-2012 01:06AM

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Just read online there now that a few days after the killing Al Queda came out and vowed revenge for the killing. Thus unlikely that Bin Laden died in other circumstances.

It didn't suit either side to have him die in comfort somewhere. The propaganda value was probably equal to both in terms of bolstering support for their causes.

Red21 · 29-08-2012 01:06AM

Happyman42 wrote: »

They probably had intelligence that Bin Laden died in his wifes arms somewhere cozy, but that scnario didn't suit the warmongers. He had to die at their hands. So invent a fantastic story where the Americans get their man, and the 'war on terror is vindicated, safe in the knowledge that he isn't gonna turn up to embarass them.

^^ that's more believeable than the stage managed tosh we where presented with tonight.

Is that you Jim?

wicklowwonder · 29-08-2012 01:06AM

One part I didn't get was the Yabks arrived crashed their helicopter and caused a racket for 7 minutes trying to get into the compound. What was Bin Laden doing for those 7 minutes? Surely his minders could have blown up the one stairs in the compound or at least been easy to shoot anyone coming up the stairs. Did any Americans die in that mission? It's went down do easy you would expect a better fight from the world's mist wanted man and his team. Surely they were trained and knew the compound better and had 7 minutes to prepare of the yanks arrival they would be able to hold them off for more than 20 minutes.

Also rumours floating about twitter that the bloke who popped Bin Laden died last week in battle. Not sure if they confirmed or anything.

Happyman42 · 29-08-2012 01:20AM

wicklowwonder wrote: »

One part I didn't get was the Yabks arrived crashed their helicopter and caused a racket for 7 minutes trying to get into the compound. What was Bin Laden doing for those 7 minutes? Surely his minders could have blown up the one stairs in the compound or at least been easy to shoot anyone coming up the stairs. Did any Americans die in that mission? It's went down do easy you would expect a better fight from the world's mist wanted man and his team. Surely they were trained and knew the compound better and had 7 minutes to prepare of the yanks arrival they would be able to hold them off for more than 20 minutes.

Also rumours floating about twitter that the bloke who popped Bin Laden died last week in battle. Not sure if they confirmed or anything.

Did you not hear, they too expected Bin Laden to have a suicide belt, a booby trapped house etc, etc ....but Bin Laden just stood there!!!:eek: impassive. The subliminal message (to an American public corn fed on Die Hard and other glorious suprematist pulp) being that this was a fair cop...'I'm guilty, the good guys has caught up with filthy me'. :rolleyes:

Bin Laden kill mission on RTE

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