what's the story with water metering?

ilovesleep · 28-08-2012 11:23AM #1

So we are due water charges next year which will be metered.

I recently noticed some new decorations to the side of my rural road. Colouredy slabs of stones that stick up and out from the road. I'm guessing these must be the water meters.

Wouldn't you expect a meter placed outside of every home/house? Instead they are placed every couple hundred metres apart. Like one for every third/fourth house.

Is that it? Neighbours sharing their water bills or something,

AnonoBoy · 28-08-2012 11:25AM

No need for meters at all I think. A guy with a divining rod would do just as good a job.

smash · 28-08-2012 11:28AM

Put a funnel in your chimney and a bucket in your fireplace and get free water when it rains!

kneemos · 28-08-2012 11:35AM

I'd say they've found a suitably proportioned shelf to place it on.

B.A._Baracus · 28-08-2012 11:59AM

I hate the idea of water meters.

I mean what does tax 'supposedly' pay for?
Gotta buy bin tags now.
Gotta pay a household charge.
Gotta pay a toll on certain roads.
.. ahh could go on. Whats the point.

The kicker is that when the economy is good again. These taxes will still be there. But I am still waiting for the government to introduce some sort of 'Air' tax.

donalg1 · 28-08-2012 12:02PM

It'll be metered at the tap in each house, they need to know what the individual is actually using so they will cut down on people disputing the figures

Link

The link above is a reason for doing this, which probably means its the reason why it wont be done this way.

greenpilot · 28-08-2012 12:45PM

donalg1 wrote: »

It'll be metered at the tap in each house, they need to know what the individual is actually using so they will cut down on people disputing the figures

Link

The link above is a reason for doing this, which probably means its the reason why it wont be done this way.

For those of you living under rocks, most of us have been paying for our water using meters at each house through our local group water schemes. We pay every year for it. Of course, you don't hear us bitching about it. Probably because we don't live in Dublin. It's simple...turn on the tap and you can see what you pay for. Which Is why most of us didn't pay the household charge. Services? What services? Our nearest street light is 6 miles away. Our road is like something you see in Chad.

minidazzler · 28-08-2012 12:51PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I hate the idea of water meters.

I mean what does tax 'supposedly' pay for?
Gotta buy bin tags now.
Gotta pay a household charge.
Gotta pay a toll on certain roads.
.. ahh could go on. Whats the point.

The kicker is that when the economy is good again. These taxes will still be there. But I am still waiting for the government to introduce some sort of 'Air' tax.

Taxes pay the salary of people who come up with taxes.

Also, Prisons, Cops, Doctors, Nurses, Education, Defence.

But a lot of the money goes to cnuts.

donalg1 · 28-08-2012 02:22PM

greenpilot wrote: »

For those of you living under rocks, most of us have been paying for our water using meters at each house through our local group water schemes. We pay every year for it. Of course, you don't hear us bitching about it. Probably because we don't live in Dublin. It's simple...turn on the tap and you can see what you pay for. Which Is why most of us didn't pay the household charge. Services? What services? Our nearest street light is 6 miles away. Our road is like something you see in Chad.

Well the nearest street light to me is probably further than the 6 miles. I paid the HHC and will have to pay the water charges when they meter my house, I am on the public water line not a rural group scheme. I also had to get a water softener put in which cost around €700 as there was so much lime in the water it was eating my shower heads on a monthly basis even with me cleaning it for hours each week. So I could only imagine what it was doing to the rest of the appliances in the house.

kneemos · 28-08-2012 02:55PM

The plan was to have every house metered by the end of this year (there's even training courses if you want to get involved)but seeing as they have'nt started yet and the Property Tax being introduced next year and I think it's an election year after that,it may be some time before your house is metered.

stevedublin · 28-08-2012 03:18PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

But I am still waiting for the government to introduce some sort of 'Air' tax.

Shhh! The troika could be reading this thread.

Boombastic · 28-08-2012 03:20PM

Goldilocks and the 3 bears?

eth0 · 28-08-2012 03:26PM

Will they give a discount if you push collected rainwater into the system?

hoochis · 28-08-2012 04:34PM

eth0 wrote: »

Will they give a discount if you push collected rainwater into the system?

You will only be charged for the water you use from the public supply. If you can reduce what water you use from this supply with rainwater then you will pay less.

ATM I am paying €1.10 per 1000 litres and a Network management charge of €105 per year.

Fromthetrees · 28-08-2012 04:56PM

It rains enough here to hydrate an African country out of drought ffs, half our water is lost through holes in the pipe network and that's at ****ing least, tap water tastes like crap, we're in the minority of European countries that puts floride in the ****ing water, the amount of dirt a Brita filter takes out of the water is galling.

I don't like the way this country operates.

Fromthetrees · 28-08-2012 04:56PM

It rains enough here to hydrate an African country out of drought ffs, half our water is lost through holes in the pipe network and that's at ****ing least, tap water tastes like crap, we're in the minority of European countries that puts floride in the ****ing water, the amount of dirt a Brita filter takes out of the water is galling.

I don't like the way this country operates.

crazy cabbage · 28-08-2012 05:02PM

Fromthetrees wrote: »

It rains enough here to hydrate an African country out of drought ffs, half our water is lost through holes in the pipe network and that's at ****ing least, tap water tastes like crap, we're in the minority of European countries that puts floride in the ****ing water, the amount of dirt a Brita filter takes out of the water is galling.

I don't like the way this country operates.

Yea. there has been a boil notice on our water for last 4-5 weeks and i only found out by chance there last week. Most people in the area still dont know about it

and then they expect us to pay for water...... when it made me have stomach cramps for a week....

hoochis · 28-08-2012 05:12PM

Fromthetrees wrote: »

It rains enough here to hydrate an African country out of drought ffs, half our water is lost through holes in the pipe network and that's at ****ing least, tap water tastes like crap, we're in the minority of European countries that puts floride in the ****ing water, the amount of dirt a Brita filter takes out of the water is galling.

I don't like the way this country operates.

You have a habit of double posting dont you? (:

Fromthetrees · 28-08-2012 05:41PM

hoochis wrote: »

You have a habit of double posting dont you? (:

My computer screen is broken so I'm on my ps3. I can't edit or delete once I've posted, I also can only post using quick reply, I just don't know, it's making me want to run out of the house with a metal pole and attack people that are smaller than me.
If this double posts I'm out.

Run_to_da_hills · 28-08-2012 06:04PM

Water smart metering bad news.

Your smart water meter knows every move you make inside your home whether your present or not. Every time you take a p*iss and flush the toilet it knows exactly how much you have used, whether you are taking too long in the shower, and decides to ration you from a remote database, and the evil Bas*stards can shut your water off completely?

No problem indeed.

Our silence is our consent for oppressive control of our lives.

Texas woman pulls a gun to stop smart meter installation LOL.

crazy cabbage · 28-08-2012 06:33PM

think the parents will end up drilling a well if this goes ahead. Water is of better quality and there is no **** in it. Maby run it through a filter. Working out cheaper than they thought.
Prehaps have some rainwater harvesting system for gardens and tiolets.

Can see alot more people doing this. Dont know the numbers but i want to see how long it would take to pay for itself. Anyone any ideas or estamates?

ArseLtd · 28-08-2012 07:12PM

I fcuking hate fluoridated water, I couldn't drink half a glass of it. Well water all the way until fluoride is gone.

Run_to_da_hills · 28-08-2012 07:52PM

crazy cabbage wrote: »

think the parents will end up drilling a well if this goes ahead. Water is of better quality and there is no **** in it. Maby run it through a filter. Working out cheaper than they thought.
Prehaps have some rainwater harvesting system for gardens and tiolets.

Can see alot more people doing this. Dont know the numbers but i want to see how long it would take to pay for itself. Anyone any ideas or estamates?

Only a few weeks ago the state of Oregon jailed a guy for collecting rainwater.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036615_Oregon_rainwater_permaculture.html

Now the state is spending millions of dollars poisoning those that obey the law.

Portland, Oregon to spend $5 million to poison its residents with toxic fluoride

galwayrush · 28-08-2012 07:52PM

Water meters are necessary to collect money to cover the cost of providing and installing the water meters and to cover the staff needed to run the service. :pac::pac:

hoochis · 28-08-2012 08:43PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Only a few weeks ago the state of Oregon jailed a guy for collecting rainwater.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036615_Oregon_rainwater_permaculture.html

Now the state is spending millions of dollars poisoning those that obey the law.

Portland, Oregon to spend $5 million to poison its residents with toxic fluoride

I think he was jailed because he diverted over 10 million gallons of water from a creek! He wasn't simply collecting a little bit of rainwater!

eth0 · 28-08-2012 09:06PM

hoochis wrote: »

You will only be charged for the water you use from the public supply. If you can reduce what water you use from this supply with rainwater then you will pay less.

ATM I am paying €1.10 per 1000 litres and a Network management charge of €105 per year.

Im on about pushing excess rainwater into the network with a pump. Will the meter run backwards?

kneemos · 28-08-2012 09:12PM

eth0 wrote: »

Im on about pushing excess rainwater into the network with a pump. Will the meter run backwards?

What kind of pressure would build up if people did that?

hoochis · 28-08-2012 09:20PM

eth0 wrote: »

Im on about pushing excess rainwater into the network with a pump. Will the meter run backwards?

Meter would probably run backwards if the flow was reversed but I imagine there would be a one way valve fitted by the meter so this would not be possible. Even if you could pump water back through the meter, would it be worth it? You would need a fairly strong pump to work against the pressure! Also you could be contaminating the public water supply!

NegativeCreep · 28-08-2012 09:21PM

Just checking. Are council houses getting the meters put in? If you are renting from the council, are you exempt?

Can't see them having all the houses done by the end of the year mind. It'll probably take a good while for that to happen. And I also can't imagine the price of water being that much. How much could it possibly cost?

eth0 · 28-08-2012 09:39PM

hoochis wrote: »

Meter would probably run backwards if the flow was reversed but I imagine there would be a one way valve fitted by the meter so this would not be possible. Even if you could pump water back through the meter, would it be worth it? You would need a fairly strong pump to work against the pressure! Also you could be contaminating the public water supply!

They could put in a one way valve but they might also rather pocket the money. The pressure isnt that high in a lot of places but really if i was able to supply decent quality water they should allow me to inject water into the supply as with electricity. It might be cheaper than storing the rain water, pump could run only at night

syklops · 28-08-2012 09:44PM

crazy cabbage wrote: »

Yea. there has been a boil notice on our water for last 4-5 weeks and i only found out by chance there last week. Most people in the area still dont know about it

and then they expect us to pay for water...... when it made me have stomach cramps for a week....

Im from Galway.

About 5 years ago my mother came home from Mass with the church leaflet. it had the timings for confessions, and choir practice and written in pencil at the bottom was "Water not safe to drink".

My Dad(being protestant), suggested it was ethnic cleansing, what with only Mass goers getting the info. My parents have bought their drinking water from Lidl ever since.

I do see metering as a good thing. You pay for what you use.

what's the story with water metering?

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