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So Smoking weed makes you dumb !!!

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  • #32
    Cú Giobach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Havong never smoked an amazing amount of it myself I dont think its affected me at all.
    It was never really my think. Id be more into mdma if I was looking to enjoy myself.

    However of the people I know who smoke it every week they tend to be fine. They dont seem to be affected and I know a 50 odd year old who has been regulary smoking it for 20+ years and he is still very intelligent. I can only assume though he also smoked as a teenager.

    I think a lot has to do on the individual. If you dont exercise your brain it will get weak. Weed or no weed.
    Being in the "middle aged" bracket myself with over 20 edit* nearly 30 years smoking behind me and also having friends older than myself who still smoke and knowing people who are now in their 60's and even 70's who still smoke (they were the ones in their 30's I knew who smoked and dealt the stuff when I was in my teens), I totally agree with you, we are not slower or dumber than any random sample of people you could take out of the general population, those that do have issues are the ones that over-did it on "other stuff".
    One thing though the average weed or hash you got 20-30 years ago wasn't as strong as what is widely available now (yippie \o/) and smoking the strong stuff at a young age before the full physical maturity of the brain has to have an adverse effect, strong weed isn't a toy for kiddies to play with.


  • #33
    Plumpynutt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Plumpynutt


    I smoke weed everyday, but I only took it up when I was nearing the age of 20. In fact all my drug use started around then. It's a no brainer that drugs and alcohol will do damage to a developing mind tbh


  • #34
    Quorum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Quorum


    Brutal Deluxe wrote: »
    Well that's the funny thing. I mean when you think about it, the core points were: they smoked it when they were kids, some have smoked it weekly since they've been kids and now it's caused brain issues.

    I think everyone can safely say "I know that".

    True, but sometimes concrete evidence is needed for the things we all know.


  • #35
    Dub Ste
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Dub Ste


    smoking weed made me dumb,that's unpossible.........


  • #36
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    conorhal wrote: »
    Cannabis given to adolescent mice has shown a drastic reduction in their ability to problem solve the classic 'find the cheese in a maze' routine.

    Of course not. But if it was Doritos, they'd get them faster :)


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  • #37
    crazy cabbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    No one will says that taking cannabis while under the age of 18 should be aloud. Everyone agrees with that. The study itself even says
    It is such a special study that I'm fairly confident that cannabis is safe for over-18 brains, but risky for under-18 brains.
    The 'link' between the frount part of the brain (cant remember name. going from memory here) and some other part of the brain isn't fully devleoped till early 20's. Any drugs will have an impact on the development of this link.

    I am all for legilisation of cannabis (as is the report shown by the quote above) for over 18's, or even over 21's. Anyone under that age shouldn't be smoking.
    I wonder how we could take it out of there hands :rolleyes:

    Also i dont agree that an IQ test is the fairest way to test intellegance. yes it should be done in studys like this but as one part of many types of intellegances tests.


  • #38
    Kurz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Kurz


    crazy cabbage wrote: »
    The 'link' between the frount part of the brain (cant remember name. going from memory here) and some other part of the brain isn't fully devleoped till early 20's. Any drugs will have an impact on the development of this link.

    Slow down there, professor.


  • #39
    crazy cabbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    Kurz wrote: »
    Slow down there, professor.

    Yea. Sorry. I read something about it ages ago and cant find it now. They were big scientific names :p


  • #40
    Bonita810
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 ✭Bonita810


    I wouldn't agree it makes you dumb...or maybe just a little;p


  • #41
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    They don't call it dope for no reason.


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  • #42
    spankysue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭spankysue


    The people in the study could've been dumb to begin with.....


  • #43
    crazy cabbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    They don't call it dope for no reason.


    In fairness there is 100's of slang names for cannabis :p

    Cheack out post number 2 in this tread. If half of them turn out to be accurate...

    And that isn't including what groups of friends may call it. I have a friend who when he first came across it asked was it broccoli that they taking (jokeing of course). From then on anything that this does come up it is refered to as broccoli by that group of friends.


  • #44
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    crazy cabbage wrote: »

    In fairness there is 100's of slang names for cannabis :p

    Cheack out post number 2 in this tread. If half of them turn out to be accurate...

    And that isn't including what groups of friends may call it. I have a friend who when he first came across it asked was it broccoli that they taking (jokeing of course). From then on anything that this does come up it is refered to as broccoli by that group of friends.

    Ah yeah. It's like anything, abuse it and it will abuse you. I never had a J in my gob until I was 21 and even at that I was never one to smoke if I needed to do anything. It was normally a late night activity for me. Don't know how some of my mates functioned during the day while smoking.


  • #45
    Eileen Down
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭Eileen Down


    I think half the problem is the amount of hash/weed people pack into a spliff. It's fine if you're sharing with a couple of friends but to smoke a fat amount on your own, you're bound to get your head wrecked.
    I have a toke from a pipe every now and then and the amount I would have burned in one spliff when I was in my twenties would now last me a month.
    *pats myself on the back


  • #46
    Kurz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Kurz


    I don't understand why RTE and the other Irish news outlets seem to periodically run stories that present recent studies that have made negative findings about Cannabis. If you keep an eye on international news, there are as many studies presenting positive findings.

    This study was written about just a few days ago and the research was carried out in Aberdeen in Scotland, much closer to home. It presents the results of a recent study that found Cannabis as having useful properties in the treatment of multiple sclerosis and arthritis.

    There seems to be a very anti-Cannabis bias in the Irish media for some reason or other.


  • #47
    old_aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,409 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Let me pull a few billies and have a think about this report.


  • #48
    mackg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    I would have hoped we wouldn't need a study like this to reminds of the dangers of drug use.

    But then judging by the amount of people I've heard denying or trying to play down the affect that cannabis and other drugs can have perhaps we need more studies like this.

    I'd prefer to do the studies myself, rather than rely on what you claim to know which is based on nothing.


  • #49
    Davidth88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    Kurz wrote: »
    I don't understand why RTE and the other Irish news outlets seem to periodically run stories that present recent studies that have made negative findings about Cannabis. If you keep an eye on international news, there are as many studies presenting positive findings.

    This study was written about just a few days ago and the research was carried out in Aberdeen in Scotland, much closer to home. It presents the results of a recent study that found Cannabis as having useful properties in the treatment of multiple sclerosis and arthritis.

    There seems to be a very anti-Cannabis bias in the Irish media for some reason or other.

    errr actually the story posted on the OP was on the BBC, and this is being carried by all the British Newspapers too.


  • #50
    crazy cabbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    I would have hoped we wouldn't need a study like this to reminds of the dangers of drug use.

    But then judging by the amount of people I've heard denying or trying to play down the affect that cannabis and other drugs can have perhaps we need more studies like this.

    No one is denying that people under the age of 18(ish) brains arn't fully developed and taking drugs if your brain is under developed will have negative effects. No one thinks that these young people should be taking any drugs.

    However this report does say that there is no evidance to suggest that people over the age of 18(ish) taking cannabis will have negative effects.
    "It is such a special study that I'm fairly confident that cannabis is safe for over-18 brains, but risky for under-18 brains."


  • #51
    Kurz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Kurz


    Davidth88 wrote: »
    errr actually the story posted on the OP was on the BBC, and this is being carried by all the British Newspapers too.

    I posted after seeing it on the RTE lunchtime news. Maybe the same applies to the British media, it doesn't make any difference to the observation made about the Irish media.


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  • #52
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,380 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    SocSocPol wrote: »
    Hopefully this will put an end to the "Legalize Cannabis" nuts!
    er....the same findings were found with alcohol...


  • #53
    opinion guy
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    crazy cabbage wrote: »
    The 'link' between the frount part of the brain (cant remember name. going from memory here)
    Cannabis addled memory ???? :P
    The frontal cortex - you were close.

    crazy cabbage wrote: »

    In fairness there is 100's of slang names for cannabis :p

    Cheack out post number 2 in this tread. If half of them turn out to be accurate...

    Ah dude can you not sucker us into clicking onto links in druggie websites there please ?


  • #54
    pastorbarrett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭pastorbarrett


    Lest we forget that most IQ tests fail to account for emotional intelligence, creative intelligence and so on. I believe that if you're inclined to such intelligences and capabilities, smoking may be of some constructive use.

    That said, I agree that smoking during adolescence seems particularly risky given what's known about adolescent brain development etc.


  • #55
    Real Life
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Real Life


    this gives more of reason for it to be legalized so it can be regulated.


  • #56
    crazy cabbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    opinion guy wrote: »
    Cannabis addled memory ???? :P
    The frontal cortex - you were close.
    Hahaha no. For the amount that i seem to post on this issue i have only ever taken cannabis a two or three times. And that was over a year period
    But yes that was what i was trying to say. Frontal cortex. Thanks :)

    opinion guy wrote: »
    Ah dude can you not sucker us into clicking onto links in druggie websites there please ?
    oops. Sorry. TBH i just googled 'how many names is there for cannabis' And that was one of first hits so clicked that. Ooops. sorry people


  • #57
    Roger Sterling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Roger Sterling


    It took 20 years of research for them to realise children shouldn't be smoking joints. Jaysus.


  • #58
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    I've always had a lower opinion of people who use any illegal drugs to get 'high'. Weak willed people who use drugs to compensate for their lack of ability to have fun naturally.


  • #59
    mikom
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    Awaits joints with Pegi 18 written on the sides for use when playing GTA 5.
    CrazyRabbit wrote: »
    I've always had a lower opinion of people who use any illegal drugs to get 'high'. Weak willed people who use drugs to compensate for their lack of ability to have fun naturally.

    Damn those natural occurring cannabis receptors in my brain.
    I guess it all started when I spun around to get dizzy as a child....


  • #60
    Brain Stroking
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    CrazyRabbit wrote: »
    I've always had a lower opinion of people who use any illegal drugs to get 'high'. Weak willed people who use drugs to compensate for their lack of ability to have fun naturally.

    So ridiculous i'm tempted to ask whether you smoked heavily between the ages of 7 and 10


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  • #61
    Tombi!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    CrazyRabbit wrote: »
    I've always had a lower opinion of people who use any illegal drugs to get 'high'. Weak willed people who use drugs to compensate for their lack of ability to have fun naturally.

    And what about the people who use legal ones?
    Or the people who go to places where it is legal?


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