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Should people be prohibited from owning exotic and potentially dangerous 'pets'?

  • 27-08-2012 01:39PM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭


    What i would like to know from the AH crowd in boards.ie,is it acceptable to own exotic pets,that belong to other countries,and would fare better in other countries due to climate etc..

    Do you not also think it is dangerous to own such pets,in the light of the lion loose in essex,UK,and the lions and tiger loose in the USA recently,due to an animal hoarder of exotic pets,which ran loose all over the state,which had to be shot.

    Imagine if a dangerous python got loose or a poisionous snake slithered up a house pipe in ireland,would you view this as grounds to prohibit casual ownership of such potentially dangerous exotic 'pets'..?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I own a Siberian Hamster.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭saiint


    damn i was thinking something else until i saw "pets"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    I own a Siberian Hamster.

    ...the one with the horns?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    personally i would air on the side of caution and say for health and saftey reasons a big fat NO to allowing civilians to casually owning exotic pets,for obvious reasons if the 'pet' got loose and decided to go on the rampage,lets just say a snake bit a human in ireland,where would the antidote be available in ireland?Its just far too dangerous for many,many different reasons as there are many different dangeous exotic 'pets'..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Do you not already need to be granted special dispensations to own such animals? I'm pretty sure that Joe Soap can't just decide to buy a lion and legally keep it in the back yard.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    And what will we do after that, prohibit exotic fruits? Pineapples are rather prickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Exotic as in not native to Ireland or exotic as in things that are really difficult (and downright impossible) to domesticate like a monkey or something?

    Non native animals: sure, if they can be (and have been proven) dosmesticated.

    Non domesitcated animals : no.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    Do you not already need to be granted special dispensations to own such animals? I'm pretty sure that Joe Soap can't just decide to buy a lion and legally keep it in the back yard.

    If joe soap was rich enough im sure he could and thats the problem.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    If joe soap was rich enough im sure he could and thats the problem.

    TBH, the problem seems to be how you think the worst of the "have / have nots" in most if not all of your posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    Yes they should, for what I ask myself, twats.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I don't think we should really be keeping any kind of exotic pets, it's not right to trap an animal in a small box just so you can look at them. Maybe with a lot of smaller animals that wouldn't have that big of territories it's not to bad but for the most part I'm against exotics as pets.

    I do have two water turtles (native to America) but I didn't go out and buy them, I took them in.

    Just get friendly with the local wildlife.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    I was over in England there at the weekend and lost my pet lion. The not so little buggers keep straying so I'd say no OP, buy a goldfish instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Imagine if a dangerous python got loose or a poisionous snake slithered up a house pipe in ireland,would you view this as grounds to prohibit casual ownership of such potentially dangerous exotic 'pets'..?

    Sure isn't the Dáil full of dangerous snakes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    personally i would air on the side of caution and say for health and saftey reasons a big fat NO to allowing civilians ........

    Of course. The Army should be allowed retain their Flesh Eating Flying monkeys.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    TBH, the problem seems to be how you think the worst of the "have / have nots" in most if not all of your posts.

    no i didnt say that you are reading into what is NOT there..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    I am a bit torn here, I am thinking maybe if the specie is endangered and you can prove you are a responsible owner. Say Parrots who are very endangered.

    But maybe that would create a market for the endangered wild ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    I would love a chimpanzee. Then I would solve crimes with my ape-bro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Some people should be prohibited from owning any kind of pets, not only the exotic ones ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭REPTILEDAN88


    Do you not already need to be granted special dispensations to own such animals? I'm pretty sure that Joe Soap can't just decide to buy a lion and legally keep it in the back yard.

    Theres only a few laws and regulations here as to keeping animals in general like herd numbers, dog licence, a10s & cites and horse passports etc none about keeping most animals and I need a licence to have a dog by law but can import a lion cub or similar big cat etc and once you have cites certs if needed theres not much people can do about it sadly they are very easy to get and I have even been offered them for £400 so they are not exactly expensive either. There are exotic cats, wolves, reptiles including venomous ones and primates over here in private keepers hands and if you have the money. I would like to see a dwa style system licence brought in but have one price for all counties etc not like the uk where it varies greatly from county to county.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    My Thai slave is only dangerous if I forgot to feed him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭REPTILEDAN88


    personally i would air on the side of caution and say for health and saftey reasons a big fat NO to allowing civilians to casually owning exotic pets,for obvious reasons if the 'pet' got loose and decided to go on the rampage,lets just say a snake bit a human in ireland,where would the antidote be available in ireland?Its just far too dangerous for many,many different reasons as there are many different dangeous exotic 'pets'..

    Nearest place for anti-venin is Liverpool in the case ofvenomous snake bites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I've a Syrian Hamster and 2 Degu whose species are from Chile. :pac:

    It's bad for them to be in captivity but I'd love a Slow Loris:


    But, ultimately, I'd love a pet monkey...............dress him up in a tiny butler suit and shìt............get him to attack any unwanted guests at the door:

    *ding dong*

    Me: "Look JoJo, it's the Jehovah Witnesses again! Go get 'em, JoJo!!"
    JoJo: "Oooooh waaaaa!!! WAAAAAA! WAAAAA!!!!
    Jehovah Witness: "Oh fùck, this is the house with the goddamn monkey.............leg it!!!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Mr Whirly


    Licensing has to happen sooner or later. There are now hundreds of caiman in this country down to a couple of arseholes profiting from their sales.

    A system where exotics are classified by their potential risk to humans or to become invasive is the way forward. A lot of snakes do very well in captivity as do many other exotics.

    CITES protects endangered species and it's unlikely many are making their way into the Irish market. Either way banning them will not stop illegal traders.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    All dogs are potentially dangerous, should they be outlawed? Especially my staffie who is a pure killing machine judging by the way people react while i am out walking her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    As a fish-keeper I wouldn't be against "exotic" pets but animals which can't be domesticated should not be permitted outside of properly licensed zoos in my opinion and there should be laws in place regarding proper care for animals. One I'd love to see us follow is a ban on the sale of "goldfish bowls". A goldfish requires a 300 litre tank. More than one, even larger. Anything smaller than about 40 litres is only suitable for shrimp or sea monkeys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    I really want an ocelot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,571 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    i would be against holding any animal against its will but at the same time wouldnt a wolf have been considered a deadly "exotic" animal when our ancestors decided to domesticate it, that turned out pretty class tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Mr Whirly wrote: »
    A system where exotics are classified by their potential risk to humans or to become invasive is the way forward. A lot of snakes do very well in captivity as do many other exotics.
    WE could maybe even throw in something for the animals welfare. Maybe how torturous their life will be and all that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    personally i think its sad to see an animal who is used to large terrian and hot weather couped up in a small cage or box sh!tting itself and smelling its own sh!t,that cannot be pleasant to say the least..

    although i wouldnt be as alarmed as lets say someone owning a python,the danger to the public would be a nightmare..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    Sure isn't the Dáil full of dangerous snakes.

    You are the Ben Elton of our generation.


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