Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

Sure head down to the Liberty for our game there.

Don't underestimate how far apart Bangor and Swansea are. It'd be a 5 and a half hour train journey each way. Could be done as long as it's a 3 o'clock kick off on the Saturday. Any other time and I probably wouldn't be able.

I'll look into it.

DM-ICE wrote: »

Just tell Fergie that Dembele was a striker and can play on the wing. He would defo sign him then.

Have to praise Rafael, he was like Denis Irwin on glucose or caffeine pills yesterday - getting forward and causing problem. Can he take peno's?

a denis irwin who can't defend.

we desperatly need a physical presence in midfield and we're not going to get it. Which means more of the same as last season. We'll score but make midfields like newcastle's and everton's look worldly.

DM-ICE wrote: »

Poor old Raf can't win.

this season is after starting a lot like last. Struggled in an away game (this time we lost) and followed it up with a home game that had a lot of chances for both teams.

I think the fitness and conditioning lads might want a rethink about how they prepare the side for a new season. Or maybe Mitch was right when he questioned the touring schedule all those weeks ago. In the last two games United tired near the end. But thats where United are normally taking advantage of the opposition getting tired.

in fairness the players who look unfit and not ready were at the euros past the group stage and didnt get a pre season with us. united have had bad starts as long as i can remember. i actually think we had a better first half to last season then we had had in a while bar the city result. rooney defo looks like he enjoyed his holiday a bit and needs to shift a bit of weight. i hadnt noticed until he was being stretchered off and it looked a bit much for a pro footballer.

as for everyone on raf. he has made a few mistakes at defending but so did gary neville in his early years. i think if we stick with him he will be class. it seems more concentration that he lacks and a bit to rash diving in with both feet at times a bit of a hot head on him like. this endeers him to me cause it shows he is taking it serious but he needs to calm down at times or get sent off. i think he was class on saturday. could have had 3 goals. not bad for a RB.

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

You can't place all the blame on Rafael for the first goal .

He loses the ball then wins it back but his tackle sends the ball to Petric who is fouled by a flat footed Carrick . Then Young loses Duff in the box and he scores .

There's more to it than Rafael anyway.

i agree about rafa but in carricks defence it is not his usual position defending like that in the box. and as for young i think he was fouled not only by duff but also by diarra. if you watched goals on sunday yesterday kammy pointed this out though he was happy with the goal standing as he found it clever

I thought Raf was amazing Saturday. Any word on how Fab did with QPR?

I think Rafael should start every game. Love his attitude, even if he has bit of a fiery temper.

once we have two natural CBs playing im happy with Raf playing every week. evans on the bench on saturday hopefully means he is back next week starting. with jones back in training too we should have options at the back after next week's game with a break until the following one

I think he is a good RB and needs that exposure and experience to grow.

No doubt in my mind, should be our regular centre back and have been saying it since Bayern Munich at home...

Talk of Nani on the move starting to heat up.

Really hope it isn't true.

He is a frustrating player, but on form he is one of the best wingers in the world. If we did sell him, it would likely be for less than he is worth, and we likely wouldn't replace him - as it seems to take United MONTHS to make any big signing.

I can't see any reason to sell Nani if it only serve to weaken the squad.

I don't even know what wingers we could be going for - I reckon Hazzard or Lucas Moura was the plan, but we missed out on them. Who else is there? Rodrigues? Isco maybe? Iker Muniain?

I do reckon by Friday night Nani will be gone and there will be no replacement brought in.

kagawa on sky sports website now.

Kagawa said in the Daily Star: "I want to improve parts of my game. I think the combination play with the other players will improve match by match.

Brilliant

"We pass the ball sideways a lot, but I want my team-mates to pass the ball forward to my feet. I need to speak to them about this.

"I want them to have the confidence to play it up to me when I'm ahead of them. That is one of my strengths and style. I want to be on the ball more. I want to be busier."

England international Tom Cleverley is one of the men tasked with feeding the ball to Kagawa and the midfielder thinks the former Borussia Dortmund man already looks an excellent signing.

Cleverley said: "He is brilliant. He has settled in really well. He links defence with attack. He gets on the half-turn and creates chances.

"I cannot speak highly enough of him. I love playing with him - one and two touch, high-energy football. We are on the same wavelength.

the bit in bold is something that i commented on during the game on Sat and also multiple times last year. it really si very frustraing just how much we try to play every ball sideways to work a cross into the box. it worked against fulham, but didnt against a more physical team such as everton who were able to defend it.

i actually cant believe how predictable our play is at times and how one dimensional it is. looking at how arsenal play, its no wonder RVP for 30+ goals for them last year as even though we have a much better team than them, a better defence and more width, their central creativity is a world ahead of ours and if they get in a really good strike like llorente for example, he will clean up.

its pretty damning that after 2 games, kagawa is voicing his concers at the type of football we are playing and to be honest, its been like that for about 18 months.