Pro lifers giving out sweets to children on Shop street

Fuinseog · 26-08-2012 01:42PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Don't knock free food!

Going to Tesco and getting free burgers and sausages and juice and other samples was how I got through college! :cool:

Few sweets, keep ya going

maybe the Roman Catholics have drugged the sweets like the hare krishnas and their drugged ice cream.

Fuinseog · 26-08-2012 01:43PM

dharma200 wrote: »

I think they were only giving the sweeties out to under 5s though.... cant see new students queueing up to get their roses... which are a particularly crap sweet to be handing out if I do say so myself... I think flying saucers, gummy bears and perhaps cola bottles wouldve been more effective in the perusal of new devotees

roses are only a bad idea in warm weather.

Stevolende · 26-08-2012 01:48PM

dharma200 wrote: »

I think they were only giving the sweeties out to under 5s though.... cant see new students queueing up to get their roses... which are a particularly crap sweet to be handing out if I do say so myself... I think flying saucers, gummy bears and perhaps cola bottles wouldve been more effective in the perusal of new devotees

jelly babies?

inisboffin · 26-08-2012 03:59PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

mikemac1 wrote: »

Don't knock free food!

Going to Tesco and getting free burgers and sausages and juice and other samples was how I got through college! :cool:

Few sweets, keep ya going

maybe the Roman Catholics have drugged the sweets like the hare krishnas and their drugged ice cream.

When did the Hares drug ice cream?

Links?

26-08-2012 04:02PM

I want to open up a Pro-Choice stand near them, which steals the sweets afterwards.

Redhairedguy · 26-08-2012 04:58PM

Stevolende wrote: »

jelly babies?

Deliciously apt.

Sarky · 26-08-2012 05:03PM

The NUIG pro-life society used to have jars of jelly babies at their sign-up days without displaying a trace of irony.

If anyone has kids, next time you see the pro-lifers, teach them to go up, get their sweets and run away shouting "MAMMY! HE'S TOUCHING MY SPECIAL PLACE!"

Night Falls · 26-08-2012 05:49PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

sure beat them to death and anyone else who has a different opinion to yours. Catholics should be made wear blue hats.

There's a certain irony in a follower of a religion that would have sections of the population treated as second-class citizens based on their sexual orientation (to pick just one area where Catholicism is in the dark ages) crying about people standing up against them.

As for "having a different opinion", the catholic church actively try to impose their set of values on the population, which can't exactly be said of those who oppose them (I've yet to see evidence of someone being forced into gay marriage, or to have an abortion, although maybe you could enlighten me?).

Night Falls · 26-08-2012 05:56PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

a religious crazy is someone who follows a religion. maybe we will start on the muslims next?

All religion and ideology should be open to question, counter-argument and, if appropriate, ridicule. That includes Islam, Scientology, Christianity, capitalism, socialism, appeasement etc.

ChunkyLover54 · 26-08-2012 05:57PM

dharma200 wrote: »

Shock tactics aside.... I found the handing out sweets to children to be more bothersome and something I am sure religious crazies in this country have done throughout the years to gain access to not exterminated little children to either push their own agenda, or possibly more sinister motives

hmmm....a rather hysterical post. Also that smiley face was kinda inappropriate at the end.

Night Falls · 26-08-2012 05:59PM

Isn't this sort of tactic one used regularly by those running An Tobar Nua?

ChunkyLover54 · 26-08-2012 06:07PM

Night Falls wrote: »

As for "having a different opinion", the catholic church actively try to impose their set of values on the population, which can't exactly be said of those who oppose them (I've yet to see evidence of someone being forced into gay marriage, or to have an abortion, although maybe you could enlighten me?).

I'm not religious (and therefore I have no pro-catholic church sympathies) but your'e exaggerating. I cannot recall one instance in my life living and growing up in Ireland (I'm 30) that I had any religious group "impose" their ideas on me.

oceanclub · 26-08-2012 06:17PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

sure beat them to death and anyone else who has a different opinion to yours. Catholics should be made wear blue hats.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_hat

Oh. The. Irony.

P.

Fuinseog · 26-08-2012 06:53PM

inisboffin wrote: »

When did the Hares drug ice cream?

Links?

twas in the eighties in Dublin I believe. some dude claimed to have been given drugged ice cream and woke up to find himself on an island where they had a house. they kept him captive for three days until he managed to escape. widespread condemnation of the cult followed. it later turned out the whole thing had been made up.

christmas2012 · 26-08-2012 07:00PM

its their opinion if you dont like it dont take the cadburys roses,they are reaching out to the young bc they know there impressionable at that age,im not pro life or pro choice believe it or not i dont believe in either,i think it depends on the individual situation,but i think legislation for ireland would have dire consequences on the irish population,and thats not a good thing when you think we still have banks to bail out for years to come..another thing aswell would be it could promote a casual attitude to abortion whereby young teens dont want to be stuck with a kid,or young adults suddenly wont like the change of lifestyle,or to be tied to a boyf,sex should be serious if youre willing to have sex you should be willing to commit..abortion can sometimes take that away,and its not just your life it affects,it can be sometimes,bar the rape and bar the medical reasons,one of the most selfish careless and reckless acts you can take..you dont know the consequences you face afterwards in the aftermath..

endacl · 26-08-2012 07:08PM

christmas2012 wrote: »

its their opinion if you dont like it dont take the cadburys roses,they are reaching out to the young bc they know there impressionable at that age,im not pro life or pro choice believe it or not i dont believe in either,i think it depends on the individual situation,but i think legislation for ireland would have dire consequences on the irish population,and thats not a good thing when you think we still have banks to bail out for years to come..another thing aswell would be it could promote a casual attitude to abortion whereby young teens dont want to be stuck with a kid,or young adults suddenly wont like the change of lifestyle,or to be tied to a boyf,sex should be serious if youre willing to have sex you should be willing to commit..abortion can sometimes take that away,and its not just your life it affects,it can be sometimes,bar the rape and bar the medical reasons,one of the most selfish careless and reckless acts you can take..you dont know the consequences you face afterwards in the aftermath..

The odd full stop here and there would make it easier to pull a bit of sense out of your post. I couldn't find any.

Fuinseog · 26-08-2012 07:10PM

Night Falls wrote: »

There's a certain irony in a follower of a religion that would have sections of the population treated as second-class citizens based on their sexual orientation (to pick just one area where Catholicism is in the dark ages) crying about people standing up against them.

As for "having a different opinion", the catholic church actively try to impose their set of values on the population, which can't exactly be said of those who oppose them (I've yet to see evidence of someone being forced into gay marriage, or to have an abortion, although maybe you could enlighten me?).

Catholics have nothing against gays per se but do not approve of unnatural sexual acts. every religion has its beliefs. the majority of Galwegians are Catholics in some form and what we have here is a secular minority aggressively imposing its will on the majority.
the days of Bishop Browne are over and rightly so I would not throw the baby out with the bathwater. I grew up in a Galway where the church supported a lot of youth clubs that I benefited from .strangely enough I was never sexually abused and never even met a paedo priest, although they are all supposed to be that way inclined.

Fuinseog · 26-08-2012 07:12PM

Night Falls wrote: »

All religion and ideology should be open to question, counter-argument and, if appropriate, ridicule. That includes Islam, Scientology, Christianity, capitalism, socialism, appeasement etc.

true, but Galway is full of people who sit on their holes and just criticise and lampoon.

Fuinseog · 26-08-2012 07:20PM

ChunkyLover54 wrote: »

I'm not religious (and therefore I have no pro-catholic church sympathies) but your'e exaggerating. I cannot recall one instance in my life living and growing up in Ireland (I'm 30) that I had any religious group "impose" their ideas on me.

I grew up in Galway and if you were an atheist you considered the odd one out. many of these people now have chips on their shoulders. Ireland was until recently a catholic country and they try to portray their ireland as some kind of gulag.

I know people in pray groups in Galway and they are lovely people. they seem to have values and morals and believe in something. they have a conception of what id right and wrong. they are subject to ridicule cos they are not promiscuous and do not drink until they vomit.

Sponge Bob · 26-08-2012 07:56PM

I'll chair this new group, Galway Against Creepy - People In Galway Seemingly - Handing Out Sweets - During Our Shopping Excursions or GAC-PIGS-HOs-DOSE in short.

Ye needs but asks Sponge Bob.

Wompa1 · 26-08-2012 08:07PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZLVi4v7lSM

Night Falls · 26-08-2012 08:10PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

Catholics have nothing against gays per se

How very gracious of you.

Fuinseog wrote: »

but do not approve of unnatural sexual acts.

Ah, right, so you are just against consenting adults doing was comes naturally to *them*, and something that in no way impacts on your life?

Fuinseog wrote: »

the majority of Galwegians are Catholics in some form and what we have here is a secular minority aggressively imposing its will on the majority.

Sorry? What will are you talking about here? Last time I checked, the majority of people polled were in favour of same-sex marriage (73% in fact), so on this topic you are well wide of the mark. But maybe you are talking about some other issue, if so, please feel free to elaborate.

Also, while the majority of Galwegians are indeed Catholic, I would suggest that a large proportion are so by default, rather than choice. Seeing as you appear to be such an authority on the subject, what proportion of the population are practicing catholics?

Fuinseog wrote: »

strangely enough I was never sexually abused and never even met a paedo priest, although they are all supposed to be that way inclined.

Well now that you brought it up, I don't ever remember anyone (at least anyone sensible) saying that all priests were paedophiles, however I think it would be hard even for you to argue that there wasn't institutional self-preservation, where the church covered up the numerous incidents for the sake of itself, rather than doing the right thing in protecting vulnerable children. And you have the balls to imply that morality exclusively for the religious?

wp_rathead · 26-08-2012 08:15PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

I grew up in Galway and if you were an atheist you considered the odd one out. many of these people now have chips on their shoulders. Ireland was until recently a catholic country and they try to portray their ireland as some kind of gulag.

I know people in pray groups in Galway and they are lovely people. they seem to have values and morals and believe in something. they have a conception of what id right and wrong. they are subject to ridicule cos they are not promiscuous and do not drink until they vomit.

and athiests don't?

Night Falls · 26-08-2012 08:18PM

ChunkyLover54 wrote: »

I'm not religious (and therefore I have no pro-catholic church sympathies) but your'e exaggerating. I cannot recall one instance in my life living and growing up in Ireland (I'm 30) that I had any religious group "impose" their ideas on me.

Divorce.
The criminalisation of homosexuality.
Not being able to buy condoms.
Good Friday / Christmas Day / sunday morning restrictions on alcohol (a very minor issue in the grand scheme of things, but in principle it shows the power the church once had on the country.

Just to name a few things that were / are influenced by the church, and happened in my lifetime (i'm roughly the same age as you).

Mrs OBumble · 26-08-2012 08:20PM

Night Falls wrote: »

There's a certain irony in a follower of a religion that would have sections of the population treated as second-class citizens based on their sexual orientation

Links to official documents, please? (Not the rants of individuals who are speaking on their own behalf.)

Every official document that I've seen says that even if a person's sexuality is "intrinsically disordered" they should be treated with dignity as respect.

(fwiw, I think there are problems with Catholic teaching in this area, and it's lack of understanding of the science in this area - but it's not guilty as charged.)

Back on topic, I'm no fan of the anti-choice campaigners - but they have a right to be there and have their say, just like the rest of us. Their pictures ain't pretty - but neither is real life. And handing out sweets to kids isn't a crime.

IMHO laws are irrelevant here: they don't force a woman to have an abortion (unless they're Chinese-style) - but they don't stop women inducing abortions either. And they make life considerably less-safe for the women who do so.

Night Falls · 26-08-2012 08:20PM

wprathead wrote: »

and athiests don't?

Fuinseog has been trying to subtly hint at that throughout the thread.

Also, Fuinseog, do you happen to strictly follow the bible, or do you take a bit of an a la carte view to it? Have you ever worked on a Sunday, for instance?

Fuinseog · 26-08-2012 08:24PM

Night Falls wrote: »

Fuinseog has been trying to subtly hint at that throughout the thread.

Also, Fuinseog, do you happen to strictly follow the bible, or do you take a bit of an a la carte view to it? Have you ever worked on a Sunday, for instance?

I try to avoid working Sundays if I can. I do not need to work seven days a week. Six is enough. On my free day I have better things to do than go shopping.
the secular minority demand respect yet have no tolerance for anyone who is religious.

Night Falls · 26-08-2012 08:26PM

JustMary wrote: »

Links to official documents, please? (Not the rants of individuals who are speaking on their own behalf.)

Every official document that I've seen says that even if a person's sexuality is "intrinsically disordered" they should be treated with dignity as respect.

Dignity and respect, possibly, just not on an equal footing to their heterosexual counterparts. Why does the church oppose same sex marriage otherwise?

Fuinseog · 26-08-2012 08:31PM

Night Falls wrote: »

Divorce.
The criminalisation of homosexuality.
Not being able to buy condoms.
Good Friday / Christmas Day / sunday morning restrictions on alcohol (a very minor issue in the grand scheme of things, but in principle it shows the power the church once had on the country.

Just to name a few things that were / are influenced by the church, and happened in my lifetime (i'm roughly the same age as you).

Germany is not a religious country yet shops do not open Sundays.
having two days without alcohol in this country is unbearable. whining about this just shows how central booze is to our lives.

homosexual were indeed crimminalised but I wonder how strictly the law was adhered to. Emmet Stagg met his young men in the Park and there was no moral outrage. I cannot remember the guards raiding blackrock after dark. indeed we had an openly gay presidental candidate who seemed to be an advocate of paedophila.

Night Falls · 26-08-2012 08:32PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

the secular minority demand respect yet have no tolerance for anyone who is religious.

You can keep repeating this all you like, but it won't make it any more true. I'm not sure many people have a problem with people having faith (barring the likes of Dawkins etc. who I personally find overly antagonistic). The issue arises when this faith directly impacts on others, such as with gay marriage. What right have you, I, or anyone else to say to a couple in a very happy, stable and loving relationship that they are not entitled to the same rights as a heterosexual couple?

Pro lifers giving out sweets to children on Shop street

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