Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

emergingstar · 25-08-2012 09:11AM

Liverpool did pay €5m loan fee and will cost them €10m altogether for the year
Way too much for a loan player

tayto lover · 25-08-2012 09:33AM

Another one gets away from us over a fiver --
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4503837/Everton-agree-deal-for-MBaye-Niang.html

UnknownSpecies · 25-08-2012 10:11AM

From the article linked above:

It is another blow to Wenger, who missed out on signing Real Madrid’s Nuri Sahin, who opted for a season-long loan at Liverpool instead.

I'm sick of this anti-Arsenal doom and gloom campaign that the tabloids have been running with. He didn't opt for a move to Liverpool, he would have preferred Arsenal. We pulled out because Madrid were looking for outrageous money for a loan deal.

bad2dabone · 25-08-2012 10:35AM

tayto lover wrote: »

Another one gets away from us over a fiver --
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4503837/Everton-agree-deal-for-MBaye-Niang.html

seriously you think if we wanted him enough we wouldn't have gotten him?

same with Sahin, the cost outweighed the benefit. still disappointed that we didnt get him but i wouldn't be happy paying 10 million to madrid for the priviledge of developing their player for year

25-08-2012 10:41AM

A 5m loan fee is just too much (for us) to pay for Sahin. Considering he would have pretty much been in the team until Wilshere gets back and back up after that. Realistically he wouldn't have been ahead of Cazorla or Arteta. A bit disappointing but this deal wasn't make or break.

BTW, some of you may recognise me, posted a few times in the thread months ago before being banned for player abuse

Something about Bale being a diving so and so :pac:

dvemail · 25-08-2012 10:45AM

emergingstar wrote: »

Liverpool did pay €5m loan fee and will cost them €10m altogether for the year
Way too much for a loan player

To make it even more stupid that should all be in pounds as far as i know.

Darren ‏@DarrenArsenal1 I know many can't count in Liverpool so here is a maths lesson. £5m loan fee and £6m in wages = £11m. Source. Hunter,Guillem,AS,BBC,Guardian

Really is mad money to just loan a player.

greendom · 25-08-2012 10:49AM

dvemail wrote: »

To make it even more stupid that should all be in pounds as far as i know.

Darren ‏@DarrenArsenal1 I know many can't count in Liverpool so here is a maths lesson. £5m loan fee and £6m in wages = £11m. Source. Hunter,Guillem,AS,BBC,Guardian

Really is mad money to just loan a player.

he was probably of more value to liverpool than he was to us. Just hope that the money is invested in another player. Any chance that we are the un-named club that has bought M'Vila ?

Chucky the tree · 25-08-2012 10:52AM

dvemail wrote: »

To make it even more stupid that should all be in pounds as far as i know.

Darren ‏@DarrenArsenal1 I know many can't count in Liverpool so here is a maths lesson. £5m loan fee and £6m in wages = £11m. Source. Hunter,Guillem,AS,BBC,Guardian

Really is mad money to just loan a player.

The £5m hasn't been mentioned in the BBC or Guardian articles.

dvemail · 25-08-2012 11:02AM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

The £5m hasn't been mentioned in the BBC or Guardian articles.

Never checked either articles, they just seem to be the numbers being thrown about by most sources on twitter.

These write ups might give a better view of the Sahin deal as a whole.

http://sulia.com/source/S-46013441/?source=twitter&guid=874110f3-9e7a-47b2-ad8e-6282d8c25815

http://sulia.com/source/S-46013441/?source=twitter&guid=c7781bee-25eb-4140-9ed7-18f942695af5

pandaboy · 25-08-2012 11:07AM

Wenger has elaborated more on the Sahin deal. Basically said he's similar to Wilshere.

Wenger on Sahin Deal

This pretty much sums it up

“If we wanted to sign Sahin, we would have done it.”

Chucky the tree · 25-08-2012 11:08AM

dvemail wrote: »

Never checked either articles, they just seem to be the numbers being thrown about by most sources on twitter.

These write ups might give a better view of the Sahin deal as a whole.

http://sulia.com/source/S-46013441/?source=twitter&guid=874110f3-9e7a-47b2-ad8e-6282d8c25815

http://sulia.com/source/S-46013441/?source=twitter&guid=c7781bee-25eb-4140-9ed7-18f942695af5

Impossible to know. Only thing is I haven't heard a non-Arsenal fan give the £5m quote expect Balluage and his reliability is pretty poor. Not to mention most of the stories I've read from Arsenal bloggers etc don't make much sense.

dvemail · 25-08-2012 11:18AM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Impossible to know. Only thing is I haven't heard a non-Arsenal fan give the £5m quote expect Balluage and his reliability is pretty poor. Not to mention most of the stories I've read from Arsenal bloggers etc don't make much sense.

We may never know. It's the kind of thing where Arsenal fans want to inflate the reported loan prices while the Liverpool fans report the lowest prices they have seen.
From the off though i do believe that Mourinho wanted Sahin to go to Liverpool due to his connections with Brendan Rodgers from his Chelsea days.

Roger Sterling · 25-08-2012 11:20AM

Does this guy even want to be at Liverpool? It seems his heart was set on Arsenal from Arsene's comments and hes only where he is for the lack of a better option.

Mickeroo · 25-08-2012 11:42AM

greendom wrote: »

he was probably of more value to liverpool than he was to us. Just hope that the money is invested in another player. Any chance that we are the un-named club that has bought M'Vila ?

I'm pretty sure Arsenal were the unamed british club that were in for him.

dvemail · 25-08-2012 11:50AM

Mickeroo wrote: »

I'm pretty sure Arsenal were the unamed british club that were in for him.

Its either us or Sp*rs. With M'Vila wanting champions league football though i hope it is us.

Chucky the tree · 25-08-2012 11:50AM

dvemail wrote: »

We may never know. It's the kind of thing where Arsenal fans want to inflate the reported loan prices while the Liverpool fans report the lowest prices they have seen.
From the off though i do believe that Mourinho wanted Sahin to go to Liverpool due to his connections with Brendan Rodgers from his Chelsea days.

I think it's more to do with him getting a lot more football with us although I'm sure the connection has helped. But I think if Wilshire was out for the season then Sahin would probably be at Arsenal now. I also dont think Arsenal want to pay £80k or so for someone who won't be a guaranteed starter when Wilshire is back and then have go back to Real in the summer.

pandaboy · 25-08-2012 11:52AM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I think it's more to do with him getting a lot more football with us although I'm sure the connection has helped. But I think if Wilshire was out for the season then Sahin would probably be at Arsenal now. I also dont think Arsenal want to pay £80k or so for someone who won't be a guaranteed starter when Wilshire is back and then have go back to Real in the summer.

Pretty bang on there.

Mickeroo · 25-08-2012 11:55AM

dvemail wrote: »

Its either us or Sp*rs. With M'Vila wanting champions league football though i hope it is us.

I thought Spurs were one of the two named clubs from what I read.

dvemail · 25-08-2012 11:59AM

Mickeroo wrote: »

I thought Spurs were one of the two named clubs from what I read.

How many teams were in for him? Zenit, Sp*rs and Team X. Can't remember if there were anymore.
Know Zenit have been ruled out due to racial abuse he has apparently gotten already off fans. Pretty sad really.

Mickeroo · 25-08-2012 12:06PM

dvemail wrote: »

How many teams were in for him? Zenit, Sp*rs and Team X. Can't remember if there were anymore.
Know Zenit have been ruled out due to racial abuse he has apparently gotten already off fans. Pretty sad really.

Yeah thats what I thought with us being team X.

emergingstar · 25-08-2012 01:56PM

Eisfield scored again for the reserves/u21s

GeorgeBailey · 25-08-2012 02:12PM

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pierce_1991 · 25-08-2012 02:13PM

RVP scores on his home debut :mad::mad::mad:

Amazing how much someone I don't even know can hurt me

Mr Blobby · 25-08-2012 02:20PM

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

RVP scores on his home debut :mad::mad::mad:

Amazing how much someone I don't even know can hurt me

Couldn't give a Fcuk..... He's just another Utd player to me now.

emergingstar · 25-08-2012 02:29PM

It was always gonna happen and will happen a lot more get used to it

efb · 25-08-2012 02:44PM

Now he's somebody I just used to love

emergingstar · 25-08-2012 05:22PM

Any truth we had a bid accepted for tiote

Edit : can't find anything it seems we bid fir him and capoue and I think there only saying that cause both were left out of there teams the weekend

wandatowell · 25-08-2012 05:48PM

efb wrote: »

Now he's somebody I just used to love

BetterCallSaul · 25-08-2012 06:41PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Any truth we had a bid accepted for tiote

Edit : can't find anything it seems we bid fir him and capoue and I think there only saying that cause both were left out of there teams the weekend

I doubt it, Tiote is injured.

tayto lover · 25-08-2012 07:38PM

Great finish by RVP in fairness but I don't think he will win anything with them

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

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