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Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

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  • #3722
    Jame Gumb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 802 ✭✭✭Jame Gumb


    Irish94 wrote: »
    Not particularly on the left wing, just kinda behind Van Persie to the left. I just think that if Kagawa plays tomorrow it won't be in a 4-4-2 formation, It would have to be a 4-4-3 in my opinion.

    Anyone think that Kagawa should be a guaranteed starter if he keeps playing the way he played against Everton?

    Kagawa and De Gea were our best players that night. Shinji must play.

    Nani should be dropped and Rooney deserves to be dropped but needs to play.

    Seeing how Hazard has hit the ground running makes me wish we'd dumped Nani and gone all out to get Hazard.


  • #3723
    CR 7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,755 ✭✭✭CR 7


    onemorechance wrote: »
    The same Fulham who won 5-0 last week! :pac: Risky tactics but could be fun! :D

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    I can't see Vidic with his new haircut without thinking he's Michael Rapaport.
    (took ages to find him, as I couldn't remember his name, or anything he's in)
    hhSPO.jpg


  • #3724
    Irish94
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Irish94


    To be fair Nani had one bad game, we all know what he is capable of and he is certainly one of the best wingers in the world. I think it is his decision making that lets him down. I'd much rather have Nani in the team then Hazard to be honest.


  • #3725
    Jame Gumb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 802 ✭✭✭Jame Gumb


    Irish94 wrote: »
    To be fair Nani had one bad game, we all know what he is capable of and he is certainly one of the best wingers in the world. I think it is his decision making that lets him down. I'd much rather have Nani in the team then Hazard to be honest.

    Really?

    Based on what we've seen of Hazard for Chelsea so far, he looks the real deal.


  • #3726
    Irish94
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Irish94


    Jame Gumb wrote: »
    Really?

    Based on what we've seen of Hazard for Chelsea so far, he looks the real deal.

    I can't really judge him off two games. I'll judge him when he plays on a rainy, wet Monday night in Upton Park or the Britannia etc.


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  • #3727
    Deank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭Deank


    Irish94 wrote: »
    To be fair Nani had one bad game, we all know what he is capable of and he is certainly one of the best wingers in the world. I think it is his decision making that lets him down. I'd much rather have Nani in the team then Hazard to be honest.

    Put away the crack pipe will yeh, jaysus I'd swap Nani and Tony V for Hazzard..


  • #3728
    IrishIrish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭IrishIrish


    Jame Gumb wrote: »
    Seeing how Hazard has hit the ground running makes me wish we'd dumped Nani and gone all out to get Hazard.
    Deank wrote: »
    Put away the crack pipe will yeh, jaysus I'd swap Nani and Tony V for Hazzard..

    Lets swap Kagawa for Michu and Rooney for Petric as well :rolleyes:


  • #3729
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Jame Gumb wrote: »
    Really?

    Based on what we've seen of Hazard for Chelsea so far, he looks the real deal.

    180 minutes?

    Nani is up there with the best on his day and to be fair over the last three seasons that has been more often than not.

    I know he was unbelievably bad last Monday and I would agree with him being dropped tomorrow, but really I think the fresh bad performance along with Hazards impressive start over a couple of games is clouding your judgement or at least making you give a rash judgement.


    Calling for Nani to be sold seems totally illogical. He, along with Rooney over the last three seasons, has probably been our most potent attacking player.


  • #3730
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Deank wrote: »
    Irish94 wrote: »
    To be fair Nani had one bad game, we all know what he is capable of and he is certainly one of the best wingers in the world. I think it is his decision making that lets him down. I'd much rather have Nani in the team then Hazard to be honest.

    Put away the crack pipe will yeh, jaysus I'd swap Nani and Tony V for Hazzard..

    Then it is you sir who needs to put away the crack pipe.


  • #3731
    Backstreet Moyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Deank wrote: »
    Put away the crack pipe will yeh, jaysus I'd swap Nani and Tony V for Hazzard..

    Luckily your not the manager. You would swap probably the two best wingers in the league for a player who has played 3 games in the league. Can only presume you didnt watch football before this season.


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  • #3732
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Deank wrote: »
    Put away the crack pipe will yeh, jaysus I'd swap Nani and Tony V for Hazzard..

    I think it's you that needs to put away the crack pipe.


  • #3733
    Deank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭Deank


    adox wrote: »
    I think it's you that needs to put away the crack pipe.

    Okay Tony V was strectching it a bit, but Nani for Hazzard in a heart beat. Nani is brillaint no doubt, but he needs to show a bit more interest and desire in games, Hazzard will be Ronaldo / Messi class.


  • #3734
    3hn2givr7mx1sc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Deank wrote: »
    Okay Tony V was strectching it a bit, but Nani for Hazzard in a heart beat. Nani is brillaint no doubt, but he needs to show a bit more interest and desire in games, Hazzard will be Ronaldo / Messi class.

    How many times have you watched "Hazzard" play?


  • #3735
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Playing Rooney on the left :D

    Certain people will explode...paging Pro.F

    I vomited with rage when I read it!

    Welcome Irish94


  • #3736
    Deank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭Deank


    Nuts102 wrote: »
    Luckily your not the manager. You would swap probably the two best wingers in the league for a player who has played 3 games in the league. Can only presume you didnt watch football before this season.

    Been watching football since 1976, swapping Tony V was a bit of an over reaction, but Hazzard is a player we should have got to pull the strings in midfield, he and Shinji, would have made a lovely couple.....


  • #3737
    Backstreet Moyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Jame Gumb wrote: »
    Kagawa and De Gea were our best players that night. Shinji must play.

    Nani should be dropped and Rooney deserves to be dropped but needs to play.

    Seeing how Hazard has hit the ground running makes me wish we'd dumped Nani and gone all out to get Hazard.

    I really thought you were a good poster when you first posted but its like someone else has started using your account since the Everton game. Nani has been our best player for 3 seasons imo. Hazard has played 3 games and 2 of them against Wigan and Reading where Chelsea are going to be comfortable. So your saying after 2 weeks into the season you would get rid of Nani after a bad game you have a short memory. It wasnt Nani or Hazard it was Kagawa or Hazard and im happier with Kagawa. Nani who has talked about his desire and supposedly willing to drop his wage demands to stay. Hazard a media whore with a money grabbing agent who will be dreaming of Madrid soon enough. I know who i would rather. Not to forget Nani is a better player who is about to enter his prime.


  • #3738
    Deank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭Deank


    baz2009 wrote: »
    How many times have you watched "Hazzard" play?

    Same as you have, but if you cannot spot a prolific talent when you see it instantly that is your issue....


  • #3739
    Jame Gumb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 802 ✭✭✭Jame Gumb


    No need for the personal stuff.

    I would swap Nani for Hazard. Hazard's class is obvious.

    That's my view.


  • #3740
    3hn2givr7mx1sc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    baz2009 wrote: »
    How many times have you watched "Hazzard" play?

    So how do you know he didn't play the best two games of his life?
    Nani has had games where he has looked like the best player in the world. This is a harsh word, but I think it' retarded to want to swap one of United's best players for a player who you've only seen play a couple of times. Stinks of overreaction from Monday night.


  • #3741
    Mars Bar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,172 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    baz2009 wrote: »
    So how do you know he didn't play the best two games of his life?
    Nani has had games where he has looked like the best player in the world. This is a harsh word, but I think it' retarded to want to swap one of United's best players for a player who you've only seen play a couple of times. Stinks of overreaction from Monday night.

    Looks like you're talking to yourself Baz!

    I dunno how anyone can make a judgement on 180 minutes of football.


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  • #3742
    Will I Amnt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Match thread here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056736265&pp=15&page=1


  • #3743
    cloptrop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    If he hadnt of got fouled twice when he wasnt really going anywhere and got the two penalties I think hed be so so ,
    I was amazed he got man of the match in their first game . Then I realised he gave a simple through ball to ivanovic and got kicked in the box assisting two goals .
    I honestly dont think he set the place alight . Did what was expected of him but Id hold out on the swap deals just yet. See how he fares in non cannon fodder games .Sure even torres scored a goal in one of them games.
    On another note we are just out of the relagation zone. If we win tomorrow and liverpool lose Id say we are safe. We have a better run in for the next 36 games.


  • #3744
    Jame Gumb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 802 ✭✭✭Jame Gumb


    You guys are forgetting the other side of the equation.

    We've watched Nani for years.

    Hazard cost £32m plus £6m in fees and we tried to sign him (so Fergie agrees he's class - It's not just us "deciding something after two games")

    I would like to see Nani replaced. It's gas how people call you a good poster until you challenge the status quo and criticise one of United's sacred cows.


  • #3745
    Al Capwned
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,721 ✭✭✭Al Capwned


    Deank wrote: »
    Okay Tony V was strectching it a bit, but Nani for Hazzard in a heart beat. Nani is brillaint no doubt, but he needs to show a bit more interest and desire in games, Hazzard will be Ronaldo / Messi class.

    Absolutely no chance, would I swap Nanni for Hazzard....


  • #3746
    Irish94
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Irish94


    Jame Gumb wrote: »
    You guys are forgetting the other side of the equation.

    We've watched Nani for years.

    Hazard cost £32m plus £6m in fees and we tried to sign him (so Fergie agrees he's class - It's not just us "deciding something after two games")

    I would like to see Nani replaced. It's gas how people call you a good poster until you challenge the status quo and criticise one of United's sacred cows.

    Why?


  • #3747
    Backstreet Moyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Jame Gumb wrote: »
    You guys are forgetting the other side of the equation.

    We've watched Nani for years.

    Hazard cost £32m plus £6m in fees and we tried to sign him (so Fergie agrees he's class - It's not just us "deciding something after two games")

    I would like to see Nani replaced. It's gas how people call you a good poster until you challenge the status quo and criticise one of United's sacred cows.

    Well i didnt hear you voicing your opinion on replacing Nani until after Monday. Nani is our best winger its mind boggling how anyone would want to replace him. I woul rather see Young and Valencia go first.


  • #3748
    3hn2givr7mx1sc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    Looks like you're talking to yourself Baz!

    Whoops.:pac:


  • #3749
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,720 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Hazard is class on the pitch alright.

    I think he is not considered class away from the pitch with some of his antics pre transfer and the way the deal fell through was not down to a lack of effort on Uniteds part. Bu i'd doubt Chelsea fans care of that United fans would if the deal came off in Uniteds favour.

    People are going to respond in a negative way if a player that has played a big part at United, a guy who wants to be at United, conducts himself well off the field is just written off and wished away because he played poorly on monday.

    That is harsh on Nani.

    all Uniteds Euro 2012 players struggled to play well on Monday while good ol Hazard had the summer off to get himself ready for his debut. Hopefully the team will respond well tomorrow.


  • #3750
    Schism
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Schism


    @Jame Gumb

    Don't you think it's bit of an over reaction to want Nani replaced? Just asking now, or have you had the same opinion of him for some time?

    He's a very good player when he wants to be, although admittedly infuriating at times. It'd take quite an outlay of cash on a new player to replace him like for like.


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  • #3751
    Backstreet Moyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Deank wrote: »
    Okay Tony V was strectching it a bit, but Nani for Hazzard in a heart beat. Nani is brillaint no doubt, but he needs to show a bit more interest and desire in games, Hazzard will be Ronaldo / Messi class.

    You admitted you have only seen Hazard as much as us. So your claiming after 3 games he will be as good as Ronaldo/Messi i dont often lol. Players can go either way look at Robinho and Pato. Pato looked unbelievable years ago whats he doing now.


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