Is Penny Apples Cullen going down the swanney

DEFTLEFTHAND · 24-08-2012 02:00PM

Bill's 70 odd at this stage. If I were him I'd start winding down, go sit on a yacht in Puerto Banus drink pina coladas all day and maybe write some self improvement books on the side.

anncoates · 24-08-2012 02:01PM

red menace wrote: »

I'm going to print out this thread and keep it on my desk and show it to people who ask me why I moved to Canada

That glazed look in their eyes: it's not avid interest.

BlueSmoker · 24-08-2012 02:04PM

Boombastic wrote: »

Will he go back selling penny apples or maybe he could try selling some salt of the earth?

Probably cost 50 cent now, and in fairness he's not the only one suggesting people work for free, are Government have actually set it up. I also would like to say, if someone is gaining valuable experience, I'm not fully against that idea. (I have no problem in doing it myself, and have so for the last 3 years)

As for Bill, yep he was a bit of a mouth, and extremely cocky, but as someone else pointed out, I still wouldn't wise this on my worse enemy, and it's sad news.

If his dealership closes down, he probably be fine, but his empolyees won't

RATM · 24-08-2012 02:07PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

While I have great admiration for anyone who sets up & runs a sucessful business, I have no time for smug ****ers like Bill Cullen.

Now, with his hotel losing millions, he's been axed by TV3, his dealership is no longer getting handouts from the government & Renault have pulled the plug on his exclusive car sales rights, he might not be such a smart-arsed cunt.

I hate to gloat, but in fairness, any bollox who has made a career of loarding his smugness over everyone else for the last 40 years really can't expect a lot more.

Couldn't agree more. At the same time as he was lecturing people to work for free he was also intensively lobbying the government to bring in a scrapage scheme which was like his own personal bailout. So he used his influence to ensure taxes on cars were cut so he could make more money and profits under the guise of 'saving jobs' while at the same time telling people to work for nothing. If a business needs people to work for free then it is not a viable business full stop.

He's a pure hypocrite in my books for doing that.

The only good thing you could say about him is at least he didn't get involved with the property madness in any big way, like I know he has the hotel and apartments in Killarney but on the other hand he was wealthy before the boom kicked off so would have been a prime candidate for landing an Anglo mega loan of €300-400m, just like Sean Dunne, Liam Carroll, etc. He would have had those opportunities at a time when all around him were making hay in property but in general he stuck to selling cars. The hotel and apartments are more of a Jackie Lavin vanity project than any serious property development. So at least he doesn't owe the taxpayer millions that can't be repaid unlike some of our other so called entrepreneurs.

working fool · 24-08-2012 02:12PM

Sure poor bill is havin no luck at all
Sure dident he puts the bins out yesterday and greenstar went bust !

Fran1985 · 24-08-2012 02:12PM

RATM wrote: »

Couldn't agree more. At the same time as he was lecturing people to <a class="ktg6us78hf8vdu7" href="#">work</a> for free he was also intensively lobbying the government to bring in a scrapage scheme which was like his own personal bailout. So he used his influence to ensure taxes on cars were cut so he could make more money and profits under the guise of 'saving <a class="ktg6us78hf8vdu7" href="#">jobs</a>' while at the same time telling people to work for nothing. If a business needs people to work for free then it is not a viable business full stop.

The b@st@rd, using his influence to make car's cheaper for people to buy. Once again using anything we can to begrudge the man. Yeah he made money (he owned a business, not a charity), but he also made cars more affordable for EVERYONE else. Do you think he should have used his influence to make things cheaper and LOSE money? That is not a "viable business" plan.

mikemac1 · 24-08-2012 02:19PM

If the business fails he can always go slave for free for somebody else

He reckons its good enough for young people

allibastor · 24-08-2012 02:21PM

Did he not lose his exclusive contract to be a main dealer a few years back. I know he did great things for renault in the past, but they took him off being the main Irish dealer a while ago, and now it seems they have no further use for his role as the spokesperson or biggest dealer in the country.

Sure he owns the Muckross in Kilkenny, he will be fine.

Ghandee · 24-08-2012 02:23PM

Something tells me he'll not have to resort to a diet of koka noodles and dry bread regardless.

fishy fishy · 24-08-2012 02:27PM

Fran1985 wrote: »

Man works hard like everyone else, makes money when there's money to be made, puts down everyone else after they lose their jobs, tells them to work for nothing while he sits atop his high horse, then see's imaginary loftiness collapse around him when he too might have to "work for nothing"

After hours rides in with usual "good enough for you, you smug git" celebration

FYP.

fishy fishy · 24-08-2012 02:27PM

red menace wrote: »

I'm going to print out this thread and keep it on my desk and show it to people who ask me why I moved to Canada.
Here people are genuinely happy to see people get ahead and be a success.

Not like Ireland it is all fcuk him who does he think he is building up a business empire and how happy people are to see him fail. Or I'm glad he failed because he was on a stupid TV show

while you're at it, ask your people in Canada would they work for nothing. So why did you move to Canada - are you working for nothing over there? or did you leave this place because there was no work and you had some git telling you to work for nothing. Why didn't you take up the offer LOL

JONJO THE MISER · 24-08-2012 02:28PM

Great news, hope he goes bankurpt.

fishy fishy · 24-08-2012 02:31PM

Fran1985 wrote: »

The b@st@rd, using his influence to make car's cheaper for people to buy. Once again using anything we can to begrudge the man. Yeah he made money (he owned a business, not a charity), but he also made cars more affordable for EVERYONE else. Do you think he should have used his influence to make things cheaper and LOSE money? That is not a "viable business" plan.

if he is promoting work for nothing, how can you afford a car?? :rolleyes:

ejmaztec · 24-08-2012 02:33PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Great news, hope he goes bankurpt.

He could always go on the Dragons' Den, pitch a new business idea, and hope they go for it.

fishy fishy · 24-08-2012 02:34PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

He could always go on the Dragons' Den, pitch a new business idea, and hope they go for it.

you mean take seaneeeen's place.

:D

StephenHendry · 24-08-2012 02:37PM

i didnt' agree with a lot of what bill said and did, didnt' really know much about him until the apprentice show started in 2008. i wouldnt be trampling on this grave so to speak or taking any pleasure in his current difficulty, he tried , he was a success and now on the way down. at least he tried regardless of what he is like as a person. we need more bill cullens in this country, people who are willing to go with a business plan and follow it to as far as it can go

latenia · 24-08-2012 02:42PM

I don't like him because he feels that growing up in a slum has given him an inbuilt moral superiority over everyone else. He made his money from his monopolistic control over the Renault brand in Ireland, not some kind of mystical rare oul times, coddle for breakfast, Moore St school of business. Once his monopoly was taken off him he was shown up as the chancer he really is.

ejmaztec · 24-08-2012 02:42PM

fishy fishy wrote: »

you mean take seaneeeen's place. :D

No, because he'd be a candidate not a Dragon.:P

fishy fishy · 24-08-2012 02:43PM

StephenHendry wrote: »

i didnt' agree with a lot of what bill said and did, didnt' really know much about him until the apprentice show started in 2008. i wouldnt be trampling on this grave so to speak or taking any pleasure in his current difficulty, he tried , he was a success and now on the way down. at least he tried regardless of what he is like as a person. we need more bill cullens in this country, people who are willing to go with a business plan and follow it to as far as it can go

so did lots of others - but lots of others didn't put down people who had some hard luck in their lives, by losing their jobs through no fault of their own.

If he was a bit more humble with his fellow human beings people would have a bit more respect for him.

red menace · 24-08-2012 02:47PM

fishy fishy wrote: »

red menace wrote: »

I'm going to print out this thread and keep it on my desk and show it to people who ask me why I moved to Canada.
Here people are genuinely happy to see people get ahead and be a success.

Not like Ireland it is all fcuk him who does he think he is building up a business empire and how happy people are to see him fail. Or I'm glad he failed because he was on a stupid TV show

while you're at it, ask your people in Canada would they work for nothing. So why did you move to Canada - are you working for nothing over there? or did you leave this place because there was no work and you had some git telling you to work for nothing. Why didn't you take up the offer LOL

well Fishy Fishy. I actually had a job and so had my wife. We were just getting pissed off with Ireland and the negative news and people so we moved to Canada. Been here two years and have no ontention of going back.

and for what it's worth I would work for nothing if I had no job. Would rather put my energy into something productive that do nothing if it came to it.

Tombo2001 · 24-08-2012 02:49PM

Read his book. Enjoyed it. He had a story to tell. He's done more with his life than most people.

Tombo2001 · 24-08-2012 02:52PM

red menace wrote: »

well Fishy Fishy. I actually had a job and so had my wife. We were just getting pissed off with Ireland and the negative news and people so we moved to Canada. Been here two years and have no ontention of going back.

and for what it's worth I would work for nothing if I had no job. Would rather put my energy into something productive that do nothing if it came to it.

Red Menace; if there is one thing that annoys the almighty bejasus out of me its Irish people who move overseas and cant wait to tall everyone back home how **** it is here and how great it is over there......and how we are all **** and the people in the country we've moved to are so much better than us.

Plenty of room on the Canadian chat boards.

Tombo2001 · 24-08-2012 02:53PM

Why is sh&t blocked out and **** not?

Presidential pardon for a cuss word?

fishy fishy · 24-08-2012 02:55PM

red menace wrote: »

well Fishy Fishy. I actually had a job and so had my wife. We were just getting pissed off with Ireland and the negative news and people so we moved to Canada. Been here two years and have no ontention of going back.

and for what it's worth I would work for nothing if I had no job. Would rather put my energy into something productive that do nothing if it came to it.

good for you. But this "work for nothing" business. Would you really? How would you pay your bills, mortgage, insurance, medical. Another word for it would be slave labour - although I think in slave times they actually GOT a roof over their head and fed and watered. These joe soaps wanted people to do it for nothing.

Also, two years is nothing - your still probably in "holiday" mode with the new experience. Give it ten or so and you will have the rosie tinted glasses well off (no offense)

anncoates · 24-08-2012 02:59PM

red menace wrote: »

Been here two years and have no ontention of going back.

Thank fuck.

ejmaztec · 24-08-2012 02:59PM

I don't think he's the only one with a disappearing Renault dealership, when it's difficult enough to sell cars, it's stupid trying to sell cars that aren't all that popular. A Kerry/Limerick dealer (Adams of Glin) was a Renault dealer for years, and now only sells Mitsubishis and Peugeots.

Alter-Ego · 24-08-2012 03:01PM

latenia wrote: »

I don't like him because he feels that growing up in a slum has given him an inbuilt moral superiority over everyone else. He made his money from his monopolistic control over the Renault brand in Ireland, not some kind of mystical rare oul times, coddle for breakfast, Moore St school of business. Once his monopoly was taken off him he was shown up as the chancer he really is.

If you were in his position, way back when, and you were given an opportunity to take an exclusive "monopoly" on a brand to make fcuktonnes of money, would you not take it and work as hard as he did?

There's nothing AH loves more than a successful businessman in trouble.

alleystar · 24-08-2012 03:08PM

Fran1985 wrote: »

Man works hard, makes money when there's money to be made, then see's his life's work collapse around him.

After hours rides in with usual begrudging celebration

Agree whole-heartedly with this post. I cannot believe some of the comments on this thread. If any of you had ever taken the time to read his books you would know that he is an extremely hard worker. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of a person but to take joy in seeing a person's livelihood crumble around them is just awful.

Some of ye would want to cop on.

He's probably a lot more decent than the lot of you put together.

padd b1975 · 24-08-2012 03:09PM

Will he still be able to go into space?

SEPT 23 1989 · 24-08-2012 03:11PM

He is a long time supporter of the corrupt FF party that destroyed my country

FCUK HIM

Is Penny Apples Cullen going down the swanney

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