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  • #52
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    ive a 2011 caad 10 and its a great bike, mind you i didnt pay 1800 for it :eek: where you getting those prices from?

    where did you get it ? i got those prices in cycleways

    I see it here at €1528 :O
    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cannondale/caad10-105-compact-2012-road-bike-ec031694


  • #53
    Lemag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭Lemag


    £999


  • #54
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    i got mine here, but the price on the site lemag put up is very good


  • #55
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    this is a very nice bike for 1500 if a 54 is your size


  • #56
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    56cm is my size. I can't believe that leeds website is offering the Cannondale caad10 at £999/approx €1270. Thats quite a drop from the price in the stores here.


  • #57
    Lemag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭Lemag


    aindriu80 wrote: »
    56cm is my size.
    Are you sure? I've got a size 52 Canyon and a size 52 CAAD9. The CAAD9 is noticably bigger. If you were already correctly sized in a shop then I guess you'll know.


  • #58
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    Lemag wrote: »
    Are you sure? I've got a size 52 Canyon and a size 52 CAAD9. The CAAD9 is noticably bigger. If you were already correctly sized in a shop then I guess you'll know.

    I hadn't a clue so I went into a bike store and got my size 56cm. I have a short back and long legs and I think certain bikes fit better than others.

    Is the caad9 a year older and a year's technology behind ? one of the few youtube reviews I have managed to find reckons caad9 was/is one of the best aluminum designs ever but caad10 has replaced them. Is caad10 better than caad9 ?


  • #59
    Lemag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭Lemag


    aindriu80 wrote: »
    I hadn't a clue so I went into a bike store and got my size 56cm.
    Ok. Different bikes have different geometries though and a stated bike size might not always refer to the length of the seattube, say.
    aindriu80 wrote: »
    Is the caad9 a year older and a year's technology behind ? one of the few youtube reviews I have managed to find reckons caad9 was/is one of the best aluminum designs ever but caad10 has replaced them. Is caad10 better than caad9 ?
    It's the only CAAD which I've had so I can't compare from experience. AFAIK, the CAAD10 is supposed to be the next iteration in the development of the CAAD bikes. I doubt that there is much difference though as the 9 was already very highly regarded. I do prefer the look of the 9. It has smooth welds. The 10 does not.


  • #60
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    It seems a bit tricky to get a CAAD9 so I will probably go for the CAAD10 as I don't mind the welds compared to the other pet hates on other bikes.

    I was looking at the http://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk where Icyseanfitz got his bike. There is quite a bit of a price difference to be had compared to the shops here. For example I could have a full carbon Cannondale Supersix 105 Compact Road Bike Replica (2012) bike for the same money as Specialized Tarmac here. P&P seems to be £20.

    I'm pretty set on the Cannondale bikes now especially after seeing the same bike in England at a lower price. Does anyone know much about the Cannondale models further up the line like the Supersix etc ? Are the parts carbon frame much better ?


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  • #61
    Seweryn
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    aindriu80 wrote: »
    I'm pretty set on the Cannondale bikes now especially after seeing the same bike in England at a lower price. Does anyone know much about the Cannondale models further up the line like the Supersix etc ? Are the parts carbon frame much better ?
    I have both bikes (or should I say - I used to have, as the SuperSix is a piece of good looking furniture at the moment :D) - the SuperSix and the CAAD 10. Both bikes are excellent and I can talk for ever about how much I like them.

    Regarding the warranty, all Cannondale bikes have life time warranty from the manufacturer, as far as I know, not just 5 years.

    Go for the Cannondale, you will not be disappointed.


  • #62
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    I checked out the U.K websites and hit with bad luck. http://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk ran out of 56cm Cannondales caad10 105 and wont be getting them back in stock. Also http://www.drakescycles.co.uk only sell Canondales in store. Both were offering the bike at £999. Does anyone know of other websites around this price range ?


  • #63
    Seweryn
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    aindriu80 wrote: »
    I checked out the U.K websites and hit with bad luck. http://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk ran out of 56cm Cannondales caad10 105 and wont be getting them back in stock. Also http://www.drakescycles.co.uk only sell Canondales in store. Both were offering the bike at £999. Does anyone know of other websites around this price range ?
    Not as good price, wbut they have your size.

    BTW, Cannondales have quite specific sizing, so make sure you get the right frame size.


  • #64
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    thanks for that. Its €1594 almost €1600, not as tempting as you see £999/€1264 for the bike. Yes I got my sized checked in the bike shop. 56cm.

    I think there is a 2013 Cannondale coming out but its not caad10, it might be caad8 ? is this right ? It might explain the sale. It would be cheaper for me to fly over and collect the bike in leeds than buy it in a local bike store here.


  • #65
    Seweryn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    aindriu80 wrote: »
    thanks for that. Its €1594 almost €1600, not as tempting as you see £999/€1264 for the bike. Yes I got my sized checked in the bike shop. 56cm.

    I think there is a 2013 Cannondale coming out but its not caad10, it might be caad8 ? is this right ? It might explain the sale. It would be cheaper for me to fly over and collect the bike in leeds than buy it in a local bike store here.
    CAAD 8 is not a replacement model to CAAD 10. They are two different bikes and they are offered separately by Cannondale. I believe both models will be offered as 2013 refreshments.


  • #66
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    Seweryn wrote: »
    CAAD 8 is not a replacement model to CAAD 10. They are two different bikes and they are offered separately by Cannondale. I believe both models will be offered as 2013 refreshments.

    Yes, I just see Cannondale CAAD10 5 Shimano 105 2013 being offered now in a few places Germany for
    €1,449.00 inc shipping     with a new paint job.

    I have still to get all the extras with the bike (like clips, shoes, helmet etc). I went down to Lidl today but no joy. The equipment was too heavy no support etc.

    Is €1500 for CAAD10 5 Shimano 105 be it 2012 or 2013 an expected price for the bike as I have spent quite a while looking online without coming up with anything else? Also should I consider other bikes at that price ?

    **edit. Westbrook cycles got back to me and said they expect CAAD 10 105 2013 model in October for £1,399.00 GBP €1,770.69 EUR. Looks like the end of a good sale.


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  • #67
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    that supersix you linked at westbrook is what id go for if you had 1500-2000 to spend, lovely machine, caad 10 is an amazing bike as well but tbh at the prices they seem to be charging now id just go for the supersix, out of interest what height are you? if youd normally take a 56 id nearly go with a 54 in cannondale, they tend to be a little long, im 6 foot and i got a 56 caad 10, it was too long for me so i changed to a shorter stem which fixed my problem


  • #68
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    that supersix you linked at westbrook is what id go for if you had 1500-2000 to spend, lovely machine, caad 10 is an amazing bike as well but tbh at the prices they seem to be charging now id just go for the supersix, out of interest what height are you? if youd normally take a 56 id nearly go with a 54 in cannondale, they tend to be a little long, im 6 foot and i got a 56 caad 10, it was too long for me so i changed to a shorter stem which fixed my problem

    I am 183cm tall with a short back and long legs. I may get away with a 54cm like you but I don't know how to judge that on the bike. In the shop he did say I may fall in between two sizes however on the bike it was 56cm on Specialized and Cannondale.

    It seems worth the supersix even though I don't know too much about it. I don't know how long that sale will last for and don't want to miss out. A new 2013 model in any of the bikes sounds like a new paint job and new price tag.


  • #69
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    id say youd get away with a 54 tbh, you say your back is short and the most important mesurment on the bike is the top tube which is your reach (arse to fingers :pac:), id get the 56 if you want the supersix and id chance the 54 if you want the caad 10, my choice would be the supersix if i had to pick, its the next step up in cannondales range after the caad's


  • #70
    Seweryn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    aindriu80 wrote: »
    I am 183cm tall with a short back and long legs. I may get away with a 54cm like you but...
    56cm is for you and do not buy any smaller frame.
    aindriu80 wrote: »
    It seems worth the supersix even though I don't know too much about it. I don't know how long that sale will last for and don't want to miss out. A new 2013 model in any of the bikes sounds like a new paint job and new price tag.
    Both bikes are the best in their range. Both - the SuperSix and the CAAD 10 have the same frame geometry and very same weight. The only difference is the frame material. Whichever one you buy, you will be happy with it.


  • #71
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    Seweryn wrote: »
    56cm is for you and do not buy any smaller frame.


    Both bikes are the best in their range. Both - the SuperSix and the CAAD 10 have the same frame geometry and very same weight. The only difference is the frame material. Whichever one you buy, you will be happy with it.

    I will stick to 56cm and not be too picky bike wise. The only thing is I have all the bits to get to cycle. For example selecting components like clips and shoes, is there anywhere easy to get all the parts ? I will have to assemble the bike out of the box as well:confused:


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  • #72
    Lemag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭Lemag


    You'd stated earlier that if you were to go with the CAAD10 that you'd upgrade the Shimano RS10 wheels. The Supersix also comes with Mavic Aksium wheels. If you'd consider this to be a sufficient upgrade then bare this in mind when comparing it to the price of the CAAD10. Also, if you go for the Supersix note that the White coloured one comes with Tektro brakes. The Replica coloured one comes with 105 brakes.


  • #73
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    Lemag wrote: »
    You'd stated earlier that if you were to go with the CAAD10 that you'd upgrade the Shimano RS10 wheels. The Supersix also comes with Mavic Aksium wheels. If you'd consider this to be a sufficient upgrade then bare this in mind when comparing it to the price of the CAAD10. Also, if you go for the Supersix note that the White coloured one comes with Tektro brakes. The Replica coloured one comes with 105 brakes.

    Yes the wheels could have been better, Are they the same wheels on the Supersix ? I was going for the Replica with Shimano 105 brakes, I don't know what Tektro brakes are ?


  • #74
    Lemag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭Lemag


    aindriu80 wrote: »
    Yes the wheels could have been better, Are they the same wheels on the Supersix ? I was going for the Replica with Shimano 105 brakes, I don't know what Tektro brakes are ?
    No, according to the spec the Supersix comes with Mavic Aksium wheels which are probably a slight upgrade on the RS10s. They ain't that light but they are reliable.


  • #75
    Donie75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Donie75


    You've lost nearly 7 weeks of cycling since the start of this thread and the short evenings are rapidly approaching. I would just jump at one of the Cannondales...

    This looks like a good value 56cm Supersix £1349 http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m7b0s6p4327
    It's available in White or Replica Colours

    The likes of www.bike-discount.de or Rose Bikes are very good for components. They charge €7 or €8 delivery but if you are buying a bit it's worth your while.
    www.chainreactioncycles.com have a sale on at the moment also. They have 105 Pedals for just over €40 and Shimano R087 shoes for €74.


  • #76
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    Hopefully I can get my order together today, can't believe summer is over. I wouldn't have been able to make a decision on my own with all those questions I had, thanks for those posts, very helpful.

    I'm going for the 56cm Supersix at £1349. I don't think there is a better price around based on size and bike.

    All the extras were really confusing. Jumping on the www.chainreactioncycles.com looks like decent clothing you can wear straight away. Hopefully its just a matter of selecting 05 Pedals for just over €40 and Shimano R087 shoes for €74 and thats it ?

    Can I assemble the bike at home without wrenches etc ? Putting the (clip) pedals is something I haven't done before

    Those Shimano shoes look just right but one is wide and a lot more expensive, I take it most people don't need wide ?


  • #77
    Donie75
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    It's a very good price alright... super looking bike with good kit.

    A set of metric Allen Keys for under a tenner should cover most jobs.
    If you plan on tinkering at the bike yourself this might be worth buying http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=40997

    As for shoes, the key is to get a size up from your normal shoe size. Pick one of the discounted pairs that have a discount on your size. Chainreaction often just discount odd sizes. I went for the wide fitting because I have a high instep and wide feet.

    Get a decent pump also... €30 will get you a good track pump.

    Then you just need shorts and a jersey and a helmet.

    Other things that would come in handy...
    Cycle computer/speedo
    Saddle bag with spares/tyre levers/tube/multitool.
    Light rain jacket.
    Gloves


  • #78
    Lemag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭Lemag


    aindriu80 wrote: »
    Can I assemble the bike at home without wrenches etc ? Putting the (clip) pedals is something I haven't done before
    The bike will probably come mostly assembled with little for you to do. You should be able to find details of this on whichever site you'll be buying it from. If not, drop them an email.


  • #79
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    enjoy the bike anyway, id love a supersix :o cannondales come pretty much built, as far as i remember there wasnt much work putting it together


  • #80
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    thanks very much. I think I have found all the bits on http://www.chainreactioncycles.com just helmet size (large?) and tube size(?) I'm not sure on. All the parts added up to quite a bit, around €390 (bar a tube or 2) and put me €200 over my budget which scratches my head a bit


  • #81
    Seweryn
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    aindriu80 wrote: »
    Hopefully I can get my order together today, can't believe summer is over. I wouldn't have been able to make a decision on my own with all those questions I had, thanks for those posts, very helpful.

    I'm going for the 56cm Supersix at £1349. I don't think there is a better price around based on size and bike.
    That is a fantastic bike for the money. Probably the best frameset at this price point plus it beats a lot more expensive bikes for ride quality and handling.

    See my earlier post with a photo showing how the bike arrives at your door and what is required to put it on the road.

    Enjoy the ride!


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  • #82
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    Since you could get the Cannondale in a box and put it together ok I decided to follow suit :D

    Its about €200 over my budget but it all seems worth it, its absolutely everything I can think of for donkeys.

    I am picking shoe size and took 45 (10.5) a slight size bigger than my usual size 44, the next size up is another €30 so I hope they fit ok.

    I was going to get 2 spare tubes but I am only guessing what size will fit 700 X 23C ? I got these 700 x 18-23c Presta 40mm http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=20484 and hope they fit.

    Thats it, everything ordered, just have to wait till it arrives. Thanks for all the help !


  • #83
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    im a 44 myself and i take a 45 in shimano shoes, problem with shoes is that the different brands can differ in size so a shimano 45 might not be the same as a sidi 45...which is annoying :( and those tubes should be grand 23c is the width of the tyre (standard road tyre) and 700 is the wheel size, that supersix is a hell of a deal tbh, if money wasnt an issue id buy one myself


  • #84
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    Yes I think the shoe size shouldn't differ from brand to brand or increase in price either.

    Hopefully the shoes and helmet fit. I can always change them if they are really uncomfortable but the shoes were going up an extra €30 for 1 shoe size.

    They have dispatched the bike order already which is pretty quick, the accessory order goes tomorrow : )

    I was just looking at this guy doing his Supersix up, really nice pictures
    http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=85941


  • #85
    Lemag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭Lemag


    aindriu80 wrote: »
    I was just looking at this guy doing his Supersix up, really nice pictures
    http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=85941
    Nice! You can post up a photo of yours here. My CAAD9 is here although I've swapped out quite a few things since.


  • #86
    paulo6891
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    Hi,

    Have you confirmed that they will ship to Ireland? I have been on to a few shops that sell cannondale in the UK and none would ship to Ireland, although in fairness, none of the companies would be as big as the ones mentioned in the thread.


  • #87
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    westbrook cycles do, i got one from them last December


  • #88
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    Yes there are 2 places that will ship to Ireland. One is https://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk and the second is http://www.evanscycles.com. Depending on your size you may get the Cannondale you want from one or other of them.

    I'm getting the bike in standard mail and I'm really excited. I don't know what I will be fit for but I think I will really enjoy the spins.

    Nice bike Lemag :) I will post a pic of the box open !


  • #89
    paulo6891
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    Looks like Evans are out of them now anyway, they only have the Apex one for > 2000. How much was shipping from them?

    I may go down the westbrook route. Icyseanfitz, how much did shipping cost for your one?

    Thanks


  • #90
    Takestan
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭Takestan


    I have a Kellys 1.2 nice road bick and i like it it cost 800 euro any opoinions


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  • #91
    Donie75
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    Aindriu80,
    Did you order from www.paulscycles.co.uk in the end?

    I'd be interested to know what they charge to ship and what they are like to deal with.

    Keep us posted...

    D


  • #92
    aindriu80
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    I couldn't get the £999 Caad10 so I went supersix. Delivery was free from wesbrook, not sure about evans

    no donie75, i went with westbrookcycles


  • #93
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    Donie75 wrote: »
    Aindriu80,
    Did you order from www.paulscycles.co.uk in the end?

    I'd be interested to know what they charge to ship and what they are like to deal with.

    Keep us posted...

    D

    Just to post I got the bike now around a month. I'm well chuffed with the carbon frame supersix. The delivery was pretty quick, I got it the following week I ordered it. Assembly was fine. I would recommend Westbrook for any bike orders.

    The Supersix is a great bike to ride, and I put over 400km on it. I didn't know the same frame was in the 2010 tour de france and won the giro d'italia. The bike is strong responsive and generally good to cycle, got used to the saddle after a while. The only thing is my neck, it gets a bit sore. I tried to adjust the head set but messed up the Cannondale Expander Wedge KP017 it a bit.

    Apart from the KP017 the only hassle I had is the pedals and clothing. I got stuff off chain reaction cycle but its a bit small and it could feel better. I am still waiting on shoes for my clip pedals, trainers aren't for racing bikes.

    Its a great feeling to be cycling, the weather has turned but its


  • #94
    t'bear
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    Was there much assembly? Can you post some pics please?


  • #95
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    here are 5 pictures I took. I had to use and IPod touch to take the pictures so sorry about the low quality.

    There is not much to get the bike up and running from the box. It was literally a matter of taking off all the wrapping then putting on the saddle, putting on the head set, putting on the front wheel then using the appropriate Allen key to tighten all of it up. It took my time but it was more interesting than anything difficult.

    The only thing I noticed about the bike was a red paint mark (in the fifth picture) on the front fork. The camera doesn't really pick it up well but I was surprised when it didn't come off. I didn't complain but I'm not sure what you can do with it.


  • #96
    t'bear
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    Cheers for taking the time to post the piccies, looks lovely. I am trying to decide which one to go for.


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  • #97
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    t'bear wrote: »
    Cheers for taking the time to post the piccies, looks lovely. I am trying to decide which one to go for.

    thought I better as mostly everyone I came across did :D


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