Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

Smegball · 23-08-2012 04:55PM

Rooney will not be dropped; SAF has said himself he needs game for his sharpness. I'd play this:

De Gea

Rafael --Carrick/Evans--Vidic---Evra

Valencia---Kagawa--Cleverly--Nani-

Roooney----RVP

I know Rooney was poor but he needs the games IMO. Nani was also very poor but knowing him will be unstoppable on Saturday.

Kagawa and Cleverly is a bit lightweight but can't see Scholes starting again; not sure if Anderson is fit enough yet.

Would still have the likes of Chico, Welbeck, Young, Scholes on the bench! That should be enough even for the impressive looking Fulham side.

DM_7 · 23-08-2012 04:59PM

The Team Mitch posted but with Scholes in place of Carrick and Carrick instead of Evans if Evans in not fit to play.

Backstreet Moyes · 23-08-2012 05:00PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

De Gea

Rafael-Evans-Vidic-Evra
Carrick-Cleverley
Valencia-Rooney-Kagawa
van Persie

Lindegaard, Wooton, Buttner, Hernandez, Welbeck, Young, Scholes.

Very early for Buttner, but he isn't a youth prospect and we have f-all other senior defensive players to select, so no harm having him on the bench.

Do i need glasses or are you saying you wouldnt have our best winger and most creative player even on the bench

Nalz · 23-08-2012 05:01PM

Do people really think Welbeck was as poor as Nani and Rooney vs Everton?

Giggsy11 · 23-08-2012 05:02PM

Darren Can ‏@Darren_Can

Angelo Henriquez is getting his visa as he heads towards Man Utd. Busy summer at Old Trafford.

Paul Tergat · 23-08-2012 05:03PM

Trilla wrote: »

Do people really think Welbeck was as poor as Nani and Rooney vs Everton?

welbeck did alright. hes going to be a star imo. only thing thats going to hold him back is competition - could be the making of him though

SK1979 · 23-08-2012 05:03PM

I think this is the team that will play (not necessarily the one I'd pick).

De Gea

Rafael - Vidic - Evans - Evra

Carrick - Cleverley

Valencia - Kagawa - Welbeck

Rooney

Just think SAF will stick with mostly the same team with Nani dropped. Rooney needs to find his form and I would doubt that RVP is ready to start and play a full 90. Only change I think might happen might be Young for Welbeck. I'd say he'll reckon that the team had plenty of possession against Everton but struggled to create chances, whereas at home that shouldn't be a problem.

SK1979 · 23-08-2012 05:05PM

Trilla wrote: »

Do people really think Welbeck was as poor as Nani and Rooney vs Everton?

I dont think he was anywhere near as poor but the couple of chances he had to go clean through would of annoyed SAF no end. I reckon there's a chance he could be left out on Saturday.

homerjay2005 · 23-08-2012 05:09PM

i thought Welbeck was really poor the last night.

Pj! · 23-08-2012 05:15PM

I'd say Van Persie will start. Him and Welbeck's roles might be reversed, with Welbeck coming on after an hour, depending on the game of course.

keane2097 · 23-08-2012 05:16PM

Who is Darren Can?

Your Airbag · 23-08-2012 05:16PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i thought Welbeck was really poor the last night.

I second this. Twice he was put through and allowed himself to be caught. I think Rooney would have done better with both chances.

A lot of talk over the summer was about a change of system but I think Fergie will use the home advantage of OT and the typical 442 to blow away some of the weaker teams. Fulham might just be one of those games.

That is why I would like to see Kag feeding the ball to a front two of RVP and Rooney on Saturday.

Will I Amnt · 23-08-2012 05:19PM

Welbeck was terrible Monday night,getting caught for pace in a race with Phil Jagielka was very surprising.
Does our training need to be looked at??? All these injuries and lack of fitness from some players....

Blatter · 23-08-2012 05:21PM

keane2097 wrote: »

Who is Darren Can?

A blogger with a few United related media contacts. Definitely not a bull****ter.

keane2097 · 23-08-2012 05:22PM

Blatter wrote: »

A blogger with a few United related media contacts. Definitely not a bull****ter.

Cool, no matter anyway, I thought for a second he was talking about that Mexican midfielder but I see he was on about the Chilean lad. Not as exciting obv!

The_Kew_Tour · 23-08-2012 05:22PM

We had 69% possession and yet created very little. Thats a worry and points to players like Rooney and Welbeck, more then Scholes and Cleverly

gracehopper · 23-08-2012 05:29PM

cambo2008 wrote: »

Welbeck was terrible Monday night,getting caught for pace in a race with Phil Jagielka was very surprising.
Does our training need to be looked at??? All these injuries and lack of fitness from some players....

yeh, rooney looked well off the pace too.

I'm thinking its all of these ****e friendlies we play in the far east that has an impact on us. usually we play a charity shield which sets the tone for the year too.

anyway ,there is always next week

Caveman1 · 23-08-2012 05:39PM

gracehopper wrote: »

yeh, rooney looked well off the pace too.

I'm thinking its all of these ****e friendlies we play in the far east that has an impact on us. usually we play a charity shield which sets the tone for the year too.

anyway ,there is always next week

I was actually surprised how unfit Rooney looked, he always looks to be carrying a bit of weight but he seemed wrecked the other night, on the other hand Tevez looks as fit as ever,(Runs for cover):pac:

Seriously though maybe the training might need to be looked at because I remember Rooney came back from that Nike training centre and he was super fit.

TheTownie · 23-08-2012 05:40PM

Fryers to Standard Liege confirmed (Official site link below);

Doron Salomon ‏@DoronSalomon
Zeki Fryers has signed for Standard Liege on a two year deal - http://www.standard.be/toutes-les-news/lire/~un-defenseur-de-manchester-united-signe-au-standard.htm?lng=fr#.UDZMwNZlS3s

Quote from site (Translated);

Jean-François de SART: "we had spotted Ezekiel two years in the Elite tournament which England and the Belgium were involved. We followed since. It was end-of-contract with Manchester United and it was a beautiful opportunity that we cannot miss."

An Citeog · 23-08-2012 05:47PM

Keno 92 wrote: »

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Thats an easy one
King
Jonhsen
Ole
Berg
Nevland

Fair play getting
Nevland.

He's also the 6th player that's played in the Premier League for United and Fulham on top of the 5 from yesterday.

Paul Tergat · 23-08-2012 05:49PM

An Citeog wrote: »

He's also the 6th player that's played in the Premier League for United and Fulham on top of the 5 from yesterday.

Nah he was in the 5 right?

Cole
VDS
Nevland
Saha
Smalling

Thats it no?

An Citeog · 23-08-2012 05:55PM

Paul Tergat wrote: »

An Citeog wrote: »

He's also the 6th player that's played in the Premier League for United and Fulham on top of the 5 from yesterday.

Nah he was in the 5 right?
Cole
VDS
Nevland
Saha
Smalling

Thats it no?

Greening

was the other one.

Paul Tergat · 23-08-2012 06:00PM

An Citeog wrote: »

Greening
was the other one.

correct sir, wp

Giggsy11 · 23-08-2012 06:02PM

Anything on the fee we will be getting for Fryers?

Al Capwned · 23-08-2012 06:04PM

What i'd like to see :-
de Gea
Rafael, Vidic, Evans, Evra,
Valencia, Carrick, Cleverley, Young,
Kagawa,
RVP.

What I think we will see :-
deGea
Rafael, Vidic, Carrick, Evra,
Valencia, Cleverley, Scholes, Young,
Kagawa,
Rooney.

Reasoning? Ah I dunno, maybe if evans is fit, scholes wont start, and Carrick will pop in beside Cleverley.

I really can't see Fergie not playing Rooney though...

Kylo Ren · 23-08-2012 06:11PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Anything on the fee we will be getting for Fryers?

Nada I think. If he went to Spurs we would of received compensation as he's under 23.

Mikeyt086 · 23-08-2012 06:13PM

alproctor wrote: »

What i'd like to see :-
de Gea
Rafael, Vidic, Evans, Evra,
Valencia, Carrick, Cleverley, Young,
Kagawa,
RVP.

What I think we will see :-
deGea
Rafael, Vidic, Carrick, Evra,
Valencia, Cleverley, Scholes, Young,
Kagawa,
Rooney.

Reasoning? Ah I dunno, maybe if evans is fit, scholes wont start, and cleverley will pop in beside Cleverley.

I really can't see Fergie not playing Rooney though...

So good we picked him twice.

Queue "I can't believe how highly some on here rate Cleverley" posts.

Giggsy11 · 23-08-2012 06:14PM

Keno 92 wrote: »

Nada I think. If he went to Spurs we would of received compensation as he's under 23.

Didn't we get fee for Pogba?

Arsenal paid for Fabregas too right and we paid for Petrucci, Macheda, Pogba.

Al Capwned · 23-08-2012 06:15PM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

So good we picked him twice.

Queue "I can't believe how highly some on here rate Cleverley" posts.

"Carrick"

DM_7 · 23-08-2012 06:17PM

Since scouts came up earlier I think we may send some to Swansea this year. They have a few potentially exciting players and Taylor looks good at Full back every time I see him.

Is Henriquez a striker like Ruud or more of a Rooney type does anyone know?

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