Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

23-08-2012 03:46PM

cloptrop wrote: »

kryogen wrote: »

TheDoc wrote: »

Excellent theory piece from this morning

http://www.football365.com/faves/8011059/F365-Says

TLDR: Everyone has been crying out for someone like Roy Keane to fill what they think is the void, simple fact is players like him are a dying breed.

With the way the game is going, it is not about having a midfield enforce ala Keane, Viera or Van Bommel, its about having an intellegent interceptor like Carrick or Busquets

Keane and Viera do not belong in the same catagory as someone like Van Bommel or De Jong though, its just lazy throwing them in there from journos/analysts.

I agree though, the way forward seems to be the Carrick/Busquets role, Sergio being the greatest exponent of the role at the moment, truly gifted at it.

For all the giving out people do about carrick you do notice when hes not there.
Id love the option of a young edger davids before they made him stop the steroids.

If steroids are fair game keano would be terrifying

Jimmy Iovine · 23-08-2012 03:52PM

kryogen wrote: »

I just started a Moses set to sign for Chelsea before Saturday rumour on Twitter as an experiment, I am hoping it makes SSN @ 6

I think I found your tweet. You need to put in a few hashtags to get things going. Put in #cfc and #wafc and you should see your retweets fly up in seconds. Well hopefully you will.

I did one about Hazard going to United and I got 35 retweets. That was at the height of Hazard-mania and was during his final game for Lille where he said he would make the announcement.

Jame Gumb · 23-08-2012 03:58PM

Yaya Toure is the closest thing to Keane and Vieira at the moment IMO.

Maybe we'll get him in the liquidation sale when the Sheikh gets bored or the Yanks invade?

Jimmy Iovine · 23-08-2012 04:01PM

Man Utd Facebook ‏@MUFC_Facebook
We are tired of gazzar pranks...so prank ** people...fúck utd management love man utd no matter silver or gold or fúck

That should be the new slogan of anyone in opposition to the Glazers, "Fúck United management, love Man United no matter". There's a lovely ring to it.

Mitch Connor · 23-08-2012 04:19PM

Player rating link for the Everton game is still active.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?pli=1&formkey=dGt5MFhUbHZ4cy1la1B6WlBCbE44OVE6MQ#gid=0
Rate away!

TheTownie · 23-08-2012 04:20PM

Warren Joyce on Mats Møller Dæhli;

"His attitude has been first class. Everything he’s done this summer with the reserves has been first class. Even the physical. He has run most of the lads into the ground this summer. It has simply been a pleasure having him in the team.

Talk about attitude and dedication. He knew he wasnt supposed to play against Curzon, but he still wanted to join. He’s just that eager and really wants to be a part of the team. He even did that right after he completed a good training session with the first-team earlier that day.

He’ll do whatever it takes to succeed, you can say that he’s desperate for success which is a great thing. There are certainly aspects he needs to work out, mainly in his positional play. It’s also about him playing against bigger men, who are able to stop you from playing your own game. This way he needs to learn when to beat a man and when pass the ball – at the same time as he is able to show off his technical attributes.

Mats is training with the reserves all the time now, and even the first team once in a while. I would say that his development gains more from these training-sessions than the games. This is because he’ll train with older and stronger players who are able to move the ball around quicker, which is why it’s important that he’s able to train with a high tempo every day."

How does he perform in training against the first teamers?

"It’s more about technical exercises, like not giving the ball away or play on a smaller pitch. If he’s taking part in those sessions he’s got no problems what so ever. After all, he knows perfectly how to handle a ball. He’s an intelligent player and has performed very well against the first teamers in those sorts of training sessions. He’s doing well, but then again we know that football is played on bigger pitches, which is where he needs to make the right decisions and do the right things at the right time."

How is he developing physically?

"His body can obviously be improved on, but he’s taking every bit of advice we give him into account. In terms of fitness, he has been having a great summer and making great strides. He never gives up, and stays on the training field until he simply cannot do any more. And that is pretty much everything he can do, which means that he’ll improve slightly every single day. But yeah, he can certainly improve physically. It’s all about quality. The best will get to play, no matter if they are 17 or 20."

TheDoc · 23-08-2012 04:21PM

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

That should be the new slogan of anyone in opposition to the Glazers, "Fúck United management, love Man United no matter". There's a lovely ring to it.

or

Fúck United management, love Man United , CUM

Jame Gumb · 23-08-2012 04:26PM

So five Norwegians have played first team football for United? (from that article above)

Can anyone name them (without using Google)?

I can only think of four...

Paul Tergat · 23-08-2012 04:28PM

Jame Gumb wrote: »

So five Norwegians have played first team football for United? (from that article above)

Can anyone name them (without using Google)?

I can only think of four...

Thats an easy one

King
Jonhsen
Ole
Berg
Nevland

Mars Bar · 23-08-2012 04:28PM

Only have 3 and not sure on one and this is not taking Daehli as having played for the first team
EDIT: Thought of another.

Johnson?
King
Solksjaer
Berg

Kylo Ren · 23-08-2012 04:31PM

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Thats an easy one
King
Jonhsen
Ole
Berg
Nevland

Fair play getting

Nevland.

Blatter · 23-08-2012 04:32PM

What team would ye like to start on Saturday?

I'd be happy with;

de Gea

Rafael

Evans---Vidic

Evra
Valencia/Nani--Carrick---Scholes/Clev--Kagawa

Rooney---van Persie

If Evans (or Ferdinand) aren't ready then I guess it'll be Carrick back there again. If that was the case I wouldn't mind seeing Scholes and Clev in midfield again.

Backstreet Moyes · 23-08-2012 04:32PM

TheTownie wrote: »

Warren Joyce on Mats Møller Dæhli;

Seems to have a good attitude read he trained with Molde over the summer showing good determination. No link but copied this from Redcafe.

Mats has decided to take a 1 year break from international youth football, to focus on the task he's got at United after being promoted to the reserves this season. According to his agent this is not something he's doing on a recommendation from the club, but is 100 % his own decision. He would be involved with the Norwegian U18s this week if it wasn't for this decision.

- For Mats to become the football player he wants, he has to prioritise, says Solbakken (the agent).

Head of professional football in the Norwegian FA, Nils Johan Semb, says that it is a choice the player has to make.

- My experience from Norway and those I've talked to abroad is that young players are better off playing for their club and national team, to get international experience. The international arena is very important for the young players, it's the way to go, says Semb.

- There will be no lack of international experience at Manchester United, says agent Solbakken.

Paul Tergat · 23-08-2012 04:33PM

Keno 92 wrote: »

Fair play getting
Nevland.

He, oh crap, or SHE :P was actually the second un I got after

Ole

, last one I got was

Berg

Kylo Ren · 23-08-2012 04:35PM

Blatter wrote: »

What team would ye like to start on Saturday?

I'd be happy with;
de Gea
Rafael
Evans---Vidic
Evra
Valencia/Nani--Carrick---Scholes/Clev--Kagawa
Rooney---van Persie

If Evans (or Ferdinand) aren't ready then I guess it'll be Carrick back there again. If that was the case I wouldn't mind seeing Scholes and Clev in midfield again.

De Gea

Rafael

Evans---Vidic

Evra
Valencia

Carrick---Cleverley

Nani

Kagawa

Van Persie

Hope Val is not RB. I didn't know Evans was fit but if he's not Carrick ro CB and Scholes to MF.

Backstreet Moyes · 23-08-2012 04:38PM

Blatter wrote: »

What team would ye like to start on Saturday?

I'd be happy with;
de Gea
Rafael
Evans---Vidic
Evra
Valencia/Nani--Carrick---Scholes/Clev--Kagawa
Rooney---van Persie

If Evans (or Ferdinand) aren't ready then I guess it'll be Carrick back there again. If that was the case I wouldn't mind seeing Scholes and Clev in midfield again.

De Gea

Rafael Evans Vidic Evra

Valencia Carrick Cleverley Nani

Kagawa

RVP

Paul Tergat · 23-08-2012 04:43PM

Can't see Fergie leaving Rooney out. Whether he should or not is another debate

Pj! · 23-08-2012 04:44PM

Can see Kagawa being used as a CM at the weekend.

Doesn't really make sense to leave Rooney out.

Owen_S · 23-08-2012 04:44PM

Fryers off to Belgium?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2192198/Manchester-United-outcast-Zeki-Fryers-Standard-Liege.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

If only himself, Pogba and Morrison took a look around before demanding instant big contracts. Home-grown talents that have stuck around are hardly on measly wages at the moment, Welbeck's new contract proves that.

Blatter · 23-08-2012 04:45PM

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Can't see Fergie leaving Rooney out. Whether he should or not is another debate

I don't think he should be left out at all, he needs games like this to get his sharpness and confidence back.

I'm sure he won't be left out either.

J. Marston · 23-08-2012 04:46PM

I want Rooney left out. Not because I'm pissed off with him or anything. I just want to see what Van Persie up top and Kagawa in behind would play like.

And it might give Rooney a kick up the hole....

Paul Tergat · 23-08-2012 04:48PM

Blatter wrote: »

I don't think he should be left out at all, he needs games like this to get his sharpness and confidence back.

I'm sure he won't be left out either.

Aye its just a couple of teams since you posted dont have him in. Like you say, for him to get there he needs games. Itll come for Rooney ive no doubt.

We better be starting Raf at RB

Kylo Ren · 23-08-2012 04:50PM

Supposedly the pool are favourites for Herrera.

Mitch Connor · 23-08-2012 04:51PM

Blatter wrote: »

What team would ye like to start on Saturday?

I'd be happy with;
de Gea
Rafael
Evans---Vidic
Evra
Valencia/Nani--Carrick---Scholes/Clev--Kagawa
Rooney---van Persie

If Evans (or Ferdinand) aren't ready then I guess it'll be Carrick back there again. If that was the case I wouldn't mind seeing Scholes and Clev in midfield again.

De Gea

Rafael-Evans-Vidic-Evra

Carrick-Cleverley
Valencia-Rooney-Kagawa

van Persie

Lindegaard, Wooton, Buttner, Hernandez, Welbeck, Young, Scholes.

Very early for Buttner, but he isn't a youth prospect and we have f-all other senior defensive players to select, so no harm having him on the bench.

Paul Tergat · 23-08-2012 04:52PM

Carrick being able to move back to midfield will make a big difference to us

double GG · 23-08-2012 04:53PM

I'd imagine Rooney and RVP will start. Kagawa and Carrick/Cleverley in the middle depending if Evans id back or not.

Jame Gumb · 23-08-2012 04:54PM

Can't do spoilers on the mobile site...missed the regal Norwegian!

Your Airbag · 23-08-2012 04:55PM

Rooney is a must start. Nothing has changed there.

Jame Gumb · 23-08-2012 04:55PM

Will Evans be fit?! Fingers crossed.

Macca07 · 23-08-2012 04:55PM

I'd like to see Rooney, Nani and Welbeck all left out.
Go 4-4-1-1 with Kagawa and RvP up front, with Val and Young on the wings.

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