Liverpool FC Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/13

Brain Stroking · 23-08-2012 09:30AM

Dickerty wrote: »

I realise the difference as is pertains to the English language.

You really dont realise the difference, actually.

cunnifferous · 23-08-2012 09:31AM

osnola ivax wrote: »

cunnifferous wrote: »

This is like having that girl you always fancied sitting on your lap and laughing at your jokes before going down the street and riding the lad who used to take yourI lunch money. Well... that's my take on it anyway..

Did you have a bad experience?

Hypothetical, I swear.

super_furry · 23-08-2012 09:33AM

Every summer has its Sahin transfer saga. The last one I remember actually signing was Harry Kewell and we all know how that turned out.

Dickerty · 23-08-2012 09:39AM

Brain Stroking wrote: »

You really dont realise the difference, actually.

Yes I do, thanks. I used a different term because that was the suggestion being made, that he was almost giving away this result. I don't think "throwing in the towel" is a particularly poor choice of terminology.

As it happens, Des didn't respond to any of my other responses. Go figure.

Sappy404 · 23-08-2012 09:40AM

cunnifferous wrote: »

This is like having that girl you always fancied sitting on your lap and laughing at your jokes before going down the street and riding the lad who used to take your lunch money. Well... that's my take on it anyway..

At least that way you get a hot girl sitting on your lap.

This is more like being stood up for a guy who's richer and has a flashier car, but she's married anyway and will never leave her husband for you so long term you're better off.

Also hypothetical.

super_furry · 23-08-2012 09:42AM

Isn't it more like a really good looking guy who has so many girls chasing after him he can't keep up with them all, so he tells those girls to go and spend the night with one of his uglier mates. He doesn't really care which one mind you.

Leiva · 23-08-2012 09:44AM

This is going to sound defeatist but does anybody really think we are going to play the extra 20+ games required to win the Europa with the current thin squad we have, whilst also trying to get as high as possible up the PL table ?

Well then better just use our Academy prospects and fringe players to get the experience. If we go out so be it .

Sappy404 · 23-08-2012 09:47AM

Leiva wrote: »

This is going to sound defeatist but does anybody really think we are going to play the extra 20+ games required to win the Europa with the current thin squad we have, whilst also trying to get as high as possible up the PL table ?

Well then better just use our Academy prospects and fringe players to get the experience. If we go out so be it .

That's why the bigger names have been left behind and a few academy prospects have traveled. Long may this continue.

deadeye187 · 23-08-2012 09:47AM

Srijandeep Das ‏@jeremy_LFC
Fazeli (Sahin's agent) along with emmisaries from Real Madrid is traveling to meet #LFC officials today. Make of it what you will.

hmmmmm...........i don`t think this deal will happen myself.

_blank_ · 23-08-2012 09:48AM

Leiva wrote: »

This is going to sound defeatist but does anybody really think we are going to play the extra 20+ games required to win the Europa with the current thin squad we have, whilst also trying to get as high as possible up the PL table ?

Well then better just use our Academy prospects and fringe players to get the experience. If we go out so be it .

Nothing defeatist about it, it's realist.

Mr Alan · 23-08-2012 09:49AM

Leiva wrote: »

This is going to sound defeatist but does anybody really think we are going to play the extra 20+ games required to win the Europa with the current thin squad we have, whilst also trying to get as high as possible up the PL table ?

Well then better just use our Academy prospects and fringe players to get the experience. If we go out so be it .

1) It's near impossible to instill an attitude into the players of "we don't really want to succeed in this competition" without it rubbing off throughout the squad. See Villa's implosion after they effectively gave up on their EL conquests a few years back.

2) The senior & big name players in the squad will desperately want to do well in the Europa League, as much as some fans may scoff at it, if they had the choice between a 5th place league finish doing nothing in the cups or a 8th place & winning the Europa League, I'd bet my left nut they'd all pick the later.

In my view, we just need to be somewhat sensible about it. Quite like we appear to be doing for this tie. A mix of first team & squad players, with the ratio shifting toward first team players the tougher the tie & the further we go in the competition.

Sappy404 · 23-08-2012 09:52AM

deadeye187 wrote: »

Srijandeep Das ‏@jeremy_LFC
Fazeli (Sahin's agent) along with emmisaries from Real Madrid is traveling to meet #LFC officials today. Make of it what you will.

hmmmmm...........i don`t think this deal will happen myself.

mustnothopehopeisthemindkillerhopeisthelittledeaththatbringstotaloblivion...

_blank_ · 23-08-2012 09:52AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

1) It's near impossible to instill an attitude into the players of "we don't really want to succeed in this competition" without it rubbing off throughout the squad. See Villa's implosion after they effectively gave up on their EL conquests a few years back. .

But surely by leaving the players that he has behind, he is already doing this.

Mr Alan wrote: »

2) The senior & big name players in the squad will desperately want to do well in the Europa League, as much as some fans may scoff at it, if they had the choice between a 5th place league finish doing nothing in the cups or a 8th place & winning the Europa League, I'd bet my left nut they'd all pick the later..

But they can't even influence it now that they are not travelling

Mr Alan wrote: »

In my view, we just need to be somewhat sensible about it. Quite like we appear to be doing for this tie. A mix of first team & squad players, with the ratio shifting toward first team players the tougher the tie & the further we go in the competition.

...or get knocked out early doors for being complacent and thinking that Hearts are a bunch of no-marks who don't deserve respect.

Luckycharms_74 · 23-08-2012 09:53AM

Dickerty wrote: »

But Marca said, and, but.......

Vicxas wrote: »

Awh, and I got his name printed on my jersey and all

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Gah, that just made me check twitter. Fuck off hope, you've done my soul enough damage as it is.

Sappy404 wrote: »

Marca say lots of stuff.

He's going to Arsenal.

super_furry wrote: »

Every summer has its Sahin transfer saga. The last one I remember actually signing was Harry Kewell and we all know how that turned out.

deadeye187 wrote: »

Srijandeep Das ‏@jeremy_LFC
Fazeli (Sahin's agent) along with emmisaries from Real Madrid is traveling to meet #LFC officials today. Make of it what you will.

hmmmmm...........i don`t think this deal will happen myself.

.................

In other news "Liverpool Target" Matt Jarvis has joined West Ham....lol
Thank fcuk for that

gafferino · 23-08-2012 09:53AM

oh FFS i really just want this to end.
If he comes to us then thats f*Cken amazing although this is probably unlikely as Madrid are probably just forcing Arsenals hand.

One way or the other he needs to sign for someone before we crack up.

deadeye187 · 23-08-2012 09:54AM

Sappy404 wrote: »

mustnothopehopeisthemindkillerhopeisthelittledeaththatbringstotaloblivion...

weird!

Leiva · 23-08-2012 09:55AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

1) It's near impossible to instill an attitude into the players of "we don't really want to succeed in this competition" without it rubbing off throughout the squad. See Villa's implosion after they effectively gave up on their EL conquests a few years back.

2) The senior & big name players in the squad will desperately want to do well in the Europa League, as much as some fans may scoff at it, if they had the choice between a 5th place league finish doing nothing in the cups or a 8th place & winning the Europa League, I'd bet my left nut they'd all pick the later.

In my view, we just need to be somewhat sensible about it. Quite like we appear to be doing for this tie. A mix of first team & squad players, with the ratio shifting toward first team players the tougher the tie & the further we go in the competition.

100% agree that apathy can spread at the detriment of the squad.

Let's just see and let Rodgers play a mixed squad and if it's good enough to keep progressing then great, if in the later stages as things get tougher then throw in your stars, but from a fans point of view if we get knocked out in the early or mid season stages then I won't be pissed .

LuckyLloyd · 23-08-2012 09:58AM

The UEFA Cup is a great competition and it would be great to do well in it.

Vicxas · 23-08-2012 10:04AM

It is, but i dont think we should pull focus off the PL, The Europa League is a great stepping stone into Europe but id rather duke it out for a CL place.

gafferino · 23-08-2012 10:06AM

Top 4 is the absolute priority. Getting to the latter stages of Uefa Cup is good though. A win would be fantastic.

Mr Alan · 23-08-2012 10:07AM

Des wrote: »

But surely by leaving the players that he has behind, he is already doing this.

No. He is using his squad. Still plenty of big name very good players travelling.

Reina, Kelly, Agger, Coates, Lucas, Adam, Allen, Henderson, Downing, Borini, Carroll all likely to play a part. You're going on (quite intentionally) like he is bringing the U-18's.

Des wrote:

But they can't even influence it now that they are not travelling

First off there is plenty of senior & big name players travelling & going to be playing a part.

Second off, tonight is the first leg of the tie. Can they be introduced for the second if required? I think they can.

Des wrote:

...or get knocked out early doors for being complacent and thinking that Hearts are a bunch of no-marks who don't deserve respect.

I get you're in the kind of "Liverpool are so ****" mood that has you giddy but try & wind your neck in a little. We should have more than enough to get by Hearts over two legs, even when not at full strength. If that's complacency, so be it. I think it's realism.

gafferino · 23-08-2012 10:08AM

Hazard with 5 assists in first two games. Decent i suppose.

Mr Alan · 23-08-2012 10:10AM

Vicxas wrote: »

It is, but i dont think we should pull focus off the PL, The Europa League is a great stepping stone into Europe but id rather duke it out for a CL place.

If our squad isn't good enough to do both, we've no chance of getting a top 4 place anyway.

Cyrus · 23-08-2012 10:10AM

Des wrote: »

...or get knocked out early doors for being complacent and thinking that Hearts are a bunch of no-marks who don't deserve respect.

if that squad doesnt have enough to beat hearts we have huge problems, as alan said, wind yer neck in

Vicxas · 23-08-2012 10:11AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

If our squad isn't good enough to do both, we've no chance of getting a top 4 place anyway.

What would you prioritise then?

Kerrigooney · 23-08-2012 10:12AM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The UEFA Cup is a great competition and it would be great to do well in it.

Agreed but if/when we get knocked out I don`t think many will be too bothered.

~Rebel~ · 23-08-2012 10:18AM

Kerrigooney wrote: »

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The UEFA Cup is a great competition and it would be great to do well in it.

Agreed but if/when we get knocked out I don`t think many will be too bothered.

Depends how far we go really, if we make it to the 1/4 finals, I want us going all out to win it.

23-08-2012 10:23AM

I think the approach of using fringe players is correct tbh. The city game is more important.

_blank_ · 23-08-2012 10:24AM

gafferino wrote: »

Hazard with 5 assists in first two games. Decent i suppose.

what the holy jesus does it have to do with Liverpool though?

_blank_ · 23-08-2012 10:27AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

I get you're in the kind of "Liverpool are so ****" mood that has you giddy but try & wind your neck in a little. We should have more than enough to get by Hearts over two legs, even when not at full strength. If that's complacency, so be it. I think it's realism.

What the hell dude, I'm in this thread, not provoking anyone, making fairly reasonable points, and you hvae a go at me?

christ almighty, it's like the old days before I took you under my wing. and mentored you.

Liverpool FC Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/13

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