A nice little petrol story.....

voz es · 22-08-2012 05:44PM #1

Last night while filling the car up with petrol it hit me how stupid this entire petrol problem is. How stupid the austerity measures that the government is undertaking in order bring back our sovereign is .The amount of money we are paying on tax direct and indirect is awesome, it’s epic like.

Watch this video, I remember watching its ages ago and thinking how ridiculous it is, I wasn't really mad then just passively annoyed, but I’m thinking its ridiculous and I'm looking at these petrol prices going up and up I’m angry now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76VOnzXQMsU

We have the petrol out the coast it was obtained through corruption so it should be null and void in my opinion; it is very simply the case. We should be petitioning countries in order to the rights back as it was against the law European and state what occurred the license was obtained through illegal activities.

Where i said petrol i ment to say natural resources, silly boy

other than that my arguement is right

My name is URL · 22-08-2012 05:49PM

Oh god, not this shite again

Biggins · 22-08-2012 05:51PM

I'm fairly sure that there was no illegal contract activities in giving our oil/gas rights away.
As much as I dislike Shell Oil (or any others) having taken advantage of our oil/gas and our government previously giving it away for little or nothing, you can be sure the contracts involved were carefully put in print to cover all asses legally.

Was there some corruption sometime somewhere? - Its Ireland, a possibility...

Colmustard · 22-08-2012 05:52PM

This Shlt again

Rubbish

There has been 5 billion spent by multinational oil companies and not one commercial oil field was ever found. Only recently has someone struck oil.

So what would you have said if the Irish government had squandered 5 billion. Rightly you would be screaming murder and offer an alternative. You would say why not give a guarantee to prospective oil exploring companies that they will only pay a minimal tax on the find. That way we get a bonus tax, a new Irish industry and employment and a tax revenue from that.

That policy was one of FFs better ideas. Norways oil was guaranteed there was already wells in the northsea. Also it is shallow water oil which is cheaper to explore and harvest while our prospective finds are deep sea.

Tonyandthewhale · 22-08-2012 05:52PM

voz es wrote: »

Last night while filling the car up with petrol it hit me how stupid this is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76VOnzXQMsU

Couldn't agree with you more.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 22-08-2012 05:55PM

voz es wrote: »

We have the petrol out the coast it was obtained through corruption so it should be null and void in my opinion; it is very simply the case. We should be petitioning countries in order to the rights back as it was against the law European and state what occurred the license was obtained through illegal activities.

There's petrol out the coast? Which coast are you talking about? If you're talking about the Corrib Gas Field there's no petrol there

ejmaztec · 22-08-2012 05:58PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

There's petrol out the coast? Which coast are you talking about? If you're talking about the Corrib Gas Field there's no petrol there

Saudi Arabia

Colmustard · 22-08-2012 05:59PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

There's petrol out the coast? Which coast are you talking about? If you're talking about the Corrib Gas Field there's no petrol there

There was a big find off cork a few months ago. It wont be operational till 2014.

kneemos · 22-08-2012 06:00PM

Tonyandthewhale wrote: »

Couldn't agree with you more.

Couldn't agree with you.

22-08-2012 06:00PM

Two words,

"Peak oil"

That's all...

Colmustard · 22-08-2012 06:01PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Two words,

"Peak oil"

That's all...

Not yet.
Another 2 words
Weak Euro.

kneemos · 22-08-2012 06:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Two words,

"Peak oil"

That's all...

A ploy to push up prices....six words.

voz es · 22-08-2012 06:05PM

Colmustard wrote: »

This Shlt again

Rubbish

There has been 5 billion spent by multinational oil companies and not one commercial oil field was ever found. Only recently has someone struck oil.

So what would you have said if the Irish government had squandered 5 billion. Rightly you would be screaming murder and offer an alternative. You would say why not give a guarantee to prospective oil exploring companies that they will only pay a minimal tax on the find. That way we get a bonus tax, a new Irish industry and employment and a tax revenue from that.

That policy was one of FFs better ideas. Norways oil was guaranteed there was already wells in the northsea. Also it is shallow water oil which is cheaper to explore and harvest while our prospective finds are deep sea.

we should not have washed our hands off a natural resource! Public private partnerships was the way to go, there expertise our resourses. there expertise was not worth much without our resources. Oil gas what ever it was.

racso1975 · 22-08-2012 06:06PM

Turf not an option thanks to eu

Defiler Of The Coffin · 22-08-2012 06:07PM

Colmustard wrote: »

There was a big find off cork a few months ago. It wont be operational till 2014.

Great! But not much good for petrol prices at the moment.

Knex* · 22-08-2012 06:07PM

In New York at the moment the price of petrol would equate to something along the lines of €0.75c per litre ($3.50 a gallon).

Been told its almost up to €1.70 at home! :eek:

marshbaboon · 22-08-2012 06:08PM

Expensive petrol you say? I don't have a car so sucks to be you I guess.

Oh GOD I'm such a failure...

Biggins · 22-08-2012 06:10PM

voz es wrote: »

we should not have washed our hands off a natural resource! Public private partnerships was the way to go, there expertise our resourses. there expertise was not worth much without our resources. Oil gas what ever it was.

1. Indeed, we should not have 'washed' our hands of a natural resource so cheap.
2. If your debating over an issue - it helps your point of view if you can tell the difference between what your actually debating about - Oil/gas, whatever it was!

Pottler · 22-08-2012 06:11PM

racso1975 wrote: »

Turf not an option thanks to eu

Feck the EU. I am currently converting our Punto to run on turf. As soon as I manage to lift the Aga into the boot and plumb in the pipes we're off. I will be the one laughing at all ye with your high fuel prices. Once again, the missus is sceptical, but that's nothing new. I can see no flaws.

Colmustard · 22-08-2012 06:11PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Great! But not much good for petrol prices at the moment.

It wont be either, the price will still be set by the international markets.

I replaced my car last november I am so glad my priority in choosing a car was fuel economy.

I get 5 to 600 miles out of a 45 litre tank.

And I have a bike which I will be using more.

Guy:Incognito · 22-08-2012 06:12PM

Knex. wrote: »

In New York at the moment the price of petrol would equate to something along the lines of €0.75c per litre ($3.50 a gallon).

Been told its almost up to €1.70 at home! :eek:

If you get out a saw , cut us off Texas and send it over with the oil fields in place we can drop our prices a bit.

There's nothing to be celebrated in burning through a finite natural resource as quickly and cheaply as possible.

Colmustard · 22-08-2012 06:13PM

Originally Posted by voz es
we should not have washed our hands off a natural resource! Public private partnerships was the way to go, there expertise our resourses. there expertise was not worth much without our resources. Oil gas what ever it was.

Did we have 5 billion to spare on a gamble and it was a gamble. That would have been a very irresponsible thing to do with Irish taxpayers money.

kneemos · 22-08-2012 06:14PM

Pottler wrote: »

Feck the EU. I am currently converting our Punto to run on turf. As soon as I manage to lift the Aga into the boot and plumb in the pipes we're off. I will be the one laughing at all ye with your high fuel prices. Once again, the missus is sceptical, but that's nothing new. I can see no flaws.

The Aga might be heavier than the Punto.

My name is URL · 22-08-2012 06:15PM

Since you're comparing Ireland with Norway in a thread about petrol prices, OP, I'm sure you realise that fuel costs a lot more in Norway? Over €2 per litre, so what makes you think that costs in Ireland would fall if we retained public ownership of our small oil reserves?

Defiler Of The Coffin · 22-08-2012 06:17PM

Colmustard wrote: »

It wont be either, the price will still be set by the international markets.

I replaced my car last november I am so glad my priority in choosing a car was fuel economy.

I get 5 to 600 miles out of a 45 litre tank.

And I have a bike which I will be using more.

True. It still all has to be refined and processed and whatnot. I can't see much of an oil industry springing up here.

I'm driving a lot less myself these days, instead of driving long distances I'll take the bus unless it's massively inconvenient to use public transport (sadly in a lot of cases it is)

ScumLord · 22-08-2012 06:21PM

Two words.

drdeadlift · 22-08-2012 06:22PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Since you're comparing Ireland with Norway in a thread about petrol prices, OP, I'm sure you realise that fuel costs a lot more in Norway? Over €2 per litre, so what makes you think that costs in Ireland would fall if we retained public ownership of our small oil reserves?

Wages are ALOT higher in Norway.

Colmustard · 22-08-2012 06:23PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

True. It still all has to be refined and processed and whatnot. I can't see much of an oil industry springing up here.

I'm driving a lot less myself these days, instead of driving long distances I'll take the bus unless it's massively inconvenient to use public transport (sadly in a lot of cases it is)

Yeah I don't drive to town either, I cycle and by the looks of it so are a lot of others.

It might, Cork could become an Aberdeen if the government get the policy right. For instance Tax breaks for offshore oil auxiliary companies, creating the college courses for the expertise needed etc. I am sure they will be doing something, at least I hope they will.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 22-08-2012 06:28PM

Colmustard wrote: »

Yeah I don't drive to town either, I cycle and by the looks of it so are a lot of others.

It might, Cork could become an Aberdeen if the government get the policy right. For instance Tax breaks for offshore oil auxiliary companies, creating the college courses for the expertise needed etc. I am sure they will be doing something, at least I hope they will.

Hopefully you're right, but will there be enough oil there to justify the investment needed? As long as there are no ecological disasters like the Gulf then it can't do any harm, might be just the shot in the arm that Cork needs.

I'm fortunate enough to live in a place where I can walk into work, no spend on fuel and no unpredictable commutes or early rises. Sometimes I can go a month without refilling the car. Not doable for many I know!

22-08-2012 06:32PM

Colmustard wrote: »

Not yet.
Another 2 words
Weak Euro.

Supply isn't keeping up with demand either, hence the stubbonly high prices!

Rabidlamb · 22-08-2012 06:39PM

Sneaky Shinner is sneaky

A nice little petrol story.....

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