Secret eaters

wendell borton · 21-08-2012 10:02PM

later12 wrote: »

:eek:

Not sure how advisable that is either; even just in terms of a dietary requirement for fibre to keep the digestive system going. Sorry for being a little gross but does that not cause serious constipation?:o

Just seen this on bbc.co.uk,

geneticist Frances Ashcroft says that everyone should give up eating for a day a week.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120815-dont-eat-one-day-a-week.

ScumLord · 21-08-2012 11:43PM

marshbaboon wrote: »

Same goes for the time you eat at, it doesn't make a difference - we just tend to associate evening time with higher consumption.

So eating close to bed time is ok?

EoghanIRL · 21-08-2012 11:52PM

If I lived in America id be fat

Ilyana · 22-08-2012 12:38AM

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Im sadly sometimes guilty of this. I try to stick to 3 meals a day from Monday to Friday and a bit of a blowout on the weekends but often my emotions can get the better of me and I often use food to comfort myself, example after a hard day at work, I can down a huge pizza, coke and then chocolate! And this is after being so good all day. I will also graze on treats if my workmates bring them in. My biggest vice is chocolate, I use it to comfort myself. Even though I have got some help in the past before and I can see whats happening (using food as a coping mechanism) I still find it v hard to stop it at times.

Im getting better though :cool:

I'm the exact same. Chocolate is my stress buddy. And bread. It is mindless eating. I eat out of boredom too, and I tend to associate celebrations with food - going out for dinner for a birthday etc.

My appetite is actually tiny; I might not need anything to eat after lunch for the rest of the day, and I'm rarely hungry enough in the morning for breakfast. My meal patterns are all over the shop because I work different shifts, although it's marginally better in college.

I should be quite thin but it's the boredom and emotional eating that's made me borderline overweight, according to my BMI.

22-08-2012 12:44AM

ScumLord wrote: »

So eating close to bed time is ok?

What's the difference between eating at night and at any other time of the day?

Anyway, I snack all day. I rarely have 3 meals a day. Actually, I never do. All my food intake comes from snacking...but mostly snacking on good stuff! Don't like eating meals. Eating too much in one sitting makes me feel sick.

CavanCrew · 22-08-2012 01:01AM

brummytom wrote: »

I was in Cavan over the past few days, staying in a house directly opposite a Supervalu. The house I was in didn't really have much in the way of snacks, so I was in that shops 4/5 times a day buying chocolate (my friends have now decided I'm a woman).

If you're on first name terms with a checkout woman after a day, you know you buy/eat too much rubbish.

I know where you LIIIIIVE.

kowloon · 22-08-2012 01:33AM

Grazing isn't bad if it's healthy, but grazing tends to be unhealthy stuff as you're not putting much effort into prep. I found I tended to go for anything in a handy packet. Beyond the obvious, bread is a killer.

Son Of A Vidic · 22-08-2012 01:57AM

Sappa wrote: »

Are you a secret eater without knowing it.

So how would you know if you don't know?

grohlisagod · 22-08-2012 04:07AM

I'm always snacking. A lot of the time out of pure boredom. Sometimes I even skip meals (excluding breakfast which I very rarely have) especially in college when I just can't be arsed preparing a meal or going to the effort of buying one.

Ocassionally I try to limit myself to proper meals but it rarely lasts. I've an awful sweet tooth also but thankfully it hasn't really done me too much harm yet.

zuzuzu · 22-08-2012 04:16AM

Abi wrote: »

Not really no, and I've thankfully never had a sweet tooth. I always hated at christmas time, or someones birthday in a job. There would be tins or boxes of chocolates going around, they always looked at me like there was something wrong with me for saying no. And this 'ah gwan, it's only a sweet ffs' mentality pissed me off. I'm not going to eat rubbish for the sake of it.

This is me!!!........ and people always move slowly away from me when I inform them that I don't drink tea either..... Blows their mind!!

marshbaboon · 22-08-2012 04:19AM

ScumLord wrote: »

So eating close to bed time is ok?

Yep. Your basal metabolic rate is measured over a 24 hour period. You might have trouble sleeping if you have a big meal but the amount of energy you metabolize from the food doesn't change.

The human body is highly efficient at utilizing calories. It's not like the absorption of vitamins & minerals where they may have other dependencies needed in order to be absorbed.

Basically regardless of what your typical calorie intake is you'll burn off any calories required by your BMR & activity level, and any excess will be stored as fat.

It's ideal to eat small meals through the day to stoke the metabolic fire, but really your metabolism will only drop significantly when you lose a massive amount of body fat (metabolism will drop by around 40% if you hit 5% body fat from an average weight as far as I can remember).

I wish I could sleep...

Lapin · 22-08-2012 04:48AM

I was about to take this thread seriously until I read this -

Sappa wrote: »

The term secret eater is someone who eats impulsively,walk into the kitchen grab a handful of almonds.....

I have never witnessed, heard of, or seen anyone walk into a kitchen and secretly grab a handful of almonds to overcome some kind of hunger pang. Nobody eats those things.

Now if you said bikkies (especially chocolate ones), or bits of cheese, or toast, then yeah - I'd be with you.

But Almonds - For Fuk's sake like.

JustAThought · 22-08-2012 07:26AM

I shared with a TINY georgous girl and she used to do this!! She ate small meals & would pack in tiny bags & tuppaware " handful" size snacks of nuts to munch on through the day. Then shed have a pizza for dinner! I'd say she was a size 6!

In a mad moment I bought some recently in Lidl/Aldi. They are so dry & bland but nutty that it is really hard to eat or enjoy more than a handful. That is; solong as you don't open a bear & pour salt in the pack! ( or buy the ones covered in honey/sugar/chilispices!!)

Gummy Panda · 22-08-2012 07:35AM

marshbaboon wrote: »

It's ideal to eat small meals through the day to stoke the metabolic fire, but really your metabolism will only drop significantly when you lose a massive amount of body fat (metabolism will drop by around 40% if you hit 5% body fat from an average weight as far as I can remember).

I wish I could sleep...

You can't stoke the metabolic fire by small meals.

Lyle McDonald - Meal Frequency

Sappa · 22-08-2012 09:19AM

Lapin wrote: »

I was about to take this thread seriously until I read this -

Sappa wrote: »

The term secret eater is someone who eats impulsively,walk into the kitchen grab a handful of almonds.....

I have never witnessed, heard of, or seen anyone walk into a kitchen and secretly grab a handful of almonds to overcome some kind of hunger pang. Nobody eats those things.

Now if you said bikkies (especially chocolate ones), or bits of cheese, or toast, then yeah - I'd be with you.

But Almonds - For Fuk's sake like.

Don't knock them until you try them,besides being tasty they are a great source of protein.
You need to open your mind a bit lad

lookitsme · 22-08-2012 09:53AM

i love sitting down and eating a load of monkey nuts. i could easily eat a big bag of them no problem, another thing i like to snack on are grapes. two healthy treats but as with the majority of healthy options they are not as cheap as the less healthy option

Quorum · 22-08-2012 09:54AM

Abi wrote: »

You've the right attitude. When I see an overweight child theres often an overweight parent or parents. Parents need to swap the processed rubbish for fruit, and send them out to play rather than spend the day on a play station. and need to be more active themselves as well as being realistic about what they're eating.

My Dad said on his summer holidays as a kid, they were given breakfast, then kicked out of the house with some sandwiches or something for lunch and ordered not to come back until the evening. They would play football, boxing generally mess around for the day.

Quorum · 22-08-2012 10:08AM

later12 wrote: »

:eek:

Not sure how advisable that is either; even just in terms of a dietary requirement for fibre to keep the digestive system going. Sorry for being a little gross but does that not cause serious constipation?:o

I've ALWAYS found that a high-fibre diet bungs me up. And whenever I have a day where I eat very little, I found the next day, things are "loosened up" poo-wise.

I'm not convinced that a high-fibre diet is as important as made out.

fishy fishy · 22-08-2012 10:16AM

when it comes to citrus fruit then yes I am. I would get up if I couldn't sleep and have a orange or a grapefruit. But I don't think Im doing too bad.

Never have biscuits/chocolate/ice-cream/fizzy drinks in house. Just regular meals, and an odd treat on a friday night, but I can't get enough of my juicy fruits.

kfallon · 22-08-2012 10:58AM

Quorum wrote: »

My Dad said on his summer holidays as a kid, they were given breakfast, then kicked out of the house with some sandwiches or something for lunch and ordered not to come back until the evening. They would play football, boxing generally mess around for the day.

Most kids were kicked out for the day back in the 80's, looking back we were as fit as fiddles with all the running around, jumping thru bushes and playing we did. Great times, you used to dread being called in at night.

"C'mon it's time to come in!"
"Ah Dad, just 5 more minutes, please, John doesn't have to go in til 11.30pm!!!"
"Well is your name John?"
*mutters under breath* "ah ffs"
"I HEARD THAT!!!"

I do remember when I was about ten (I think) a young lad named Kyle Curran was lured, abducted and murdered one summers evening in Waterford. He was about my age at the time and lived not too far from me. Everything changed with that, it was unheard of to happen in those days and we were not allowed stray from the front of the house and we were all called in around 8pm, everyone couldn't believe what had happened and for months afterwards everyone thread carefully.

However looking back those summer holidays were great, spent the whole time out playing football or just playing. I remember days when it rained and you'd spend hours looking out the window just waiting for it to stop and as soon as it did you'd be off.

fishy fishy wrote: »

Never have biscuits/chocolate/ice-cream/fizzy drinks in house. Just regular meals, and an odd treat on a friday night, but I can't get enough of my juicy fruits.

A 'pedal' watching the French film on TG4???

:pac:

thunderdog · 22-08-2012 11:47AM

later12 wrote: »

I'm impressed by the lack of snacking culture in France. I remember doing an exchange there when I was a kid, and kids were just not allowed snack in a way that was far more dogmatically applied than in Ireland or the UK.

Here, many parents tend to give food as a reward or a silencer outside of meals time, which most French parents seem to regard with a little horror.

It's definitely something I will try to avoid with my kids. Snacking and giving food treats is just not a good habit to have them get into.

Yeah you will never see a French person with a bag of crisps or chocolate bar walking around. I almost felt a bit uncomfortable eating an apple on one of the trams!

Also in their cinemas you often see people sitting on their own, with a book, not eating any junk food :eek:

Sitting in total silence......quite the opposite here! Thats probably why they have much better waistlines than our fine selves

marshbaboon · 22-08-2012 11:50AM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

You can't stoke the metabolic fire by small meals.

Lyle McDonald - Meal Frequency

A link to an article by someone selling their book on dieting? Must be true.

My terminology was too vague there anyway though so fair point, that's what I get for posting after 4am.

What I meant it as is that it's better to eat more regularly to keep your glucose levels high. You're right, it doesn't magically raise your BMR.

Gummy Panda · 22-08-2012 12:01PM

marshbaboon wrote: »

A link to an article by someone selling their book on dieting? Must be true.

Well its Lyle McDonald so yes it probably is true.

marshbaboon · 22-08-2012 12:03PM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Well its Lyle McDonald so yes it probably is true.

I was only pulling your paw...

ScumLord · 22-08-2012 12:12PM

Lia_lia wrote: »

What's the difference between eating at night and at any other time of the day?

Well what I had been lead to believe and what I've been told by people doing boxing training is that if you eat in the morning you use up that food throughout the day but if you eat at night that food get's stored as fat because your not moving and using it up.

marshbaboon wrote: »

Yep. Your basal metabolic rate is measured over a 24 hour period.

Well this changes everything, do you know how many times I sat there at 11pm starving?..... It's actually very few times, but I'm usually feeling guilty about eating something though.

fishy fishy · 22-08-2012 12:12PM

kfallon wrote: »

Most kids were kicked out for the day back in the 80's, looking back we were as fit as fiddles with all the running around, jumping thru bushes and playing we did. Great times, you used to dread being called in at night.

"C'mon it's time to come in!"
"Ah Dad, just 5 more minutes, please, John doesn't have to go in til 11.30pm!!!"
"Well is your name John?"
*mutters under breath* "ah ffs"
"I HEARD THAT!!!"

I do remember when I was about ten (I think) a young lad named Kyle Curran was lured, abducted and murdered one summers evening in Waterford. He was about my age at the time and lived not too far from me. Everything changed with that, it was unheard of to happen in those days and we were not allowed stray from the front of the house and we were all called in around 8pm, everyone couldn't believe what had happened and for months afterwards everyone thread carefully.

However looking back those summer holidays were great, spent the whole time out playing football or just playing. I remember days when it rained and you'd spend hours looking out the window just waiting for it to stop and as soon as it did you'd be off.

A 'pedal' watching the French film on TG4??? :pac:

yes getting thrown out of the house early morning on Summer days was common. There was always some adventure, something to do and plenty to do it with - and trying to get kids in at night was an effort - it was always great fun, and there wasn't a big to-do if we couldn't be found for an hour or two - nobody went crazy and called in the troops. In fact if were WERE hanging around the house area it was a well known fact that there had been some kind of "fight" during the day and sides were picked. if you went home looking for sympathy over a bloody nose, or a banged ear, you were sent straight back out again and told to get on with it. LOL Next day it was all back to normal again.

However, I don't know what your sentence means above.

OneArt · 22-08-2012 12:32PM

I never really crave sweets, I prefer savoury stuff. If I'm in the mood for a snack it's usually something bizarre like cheese and crackers and a few pickled onions.

fishy fishy · 22-08-2012 12:34PM

OneArt wrote: »

I never really crave sweets, I prefer savoury stuff. If I'm in the mood for a snack it's usually something bizarre like cheese and crackers and a few pickled onions.

one of my friday night treats would be......tunafish mixed with celery on a tuc cracker or prawn cocktail mixed with strawberries and oranges. Wish it was Friday.

Ilyana · 22-08-2012 01:32PM

I think working around food can play havoc with a good diet too. Where I work it's so easy to help yourself to crisps (for the sandwiches), salad prep, bread and even chips and nuggets from the fryer.

Nearly everyone does it and I've seen many people balloon since they started working there. Funnily enough I've lost weigh since working there, but it's not for lack of snacking. When people leave they invariably lose weight as they're not taking in these invisible calories from the odd bowl of chips.

marshbaboon · 22-08-2012 01:41PM

Ilyana wrote: »

I think working around food can play havoc with a good diet too. Where I work it's so easy to help yourself to crisps (for the sandwiches), salad prep, bread and even chips and nuggets from the fryer.

Nearly everyone does it and I've seen many people balloon since they started working there. Funnily enough I've lost weigh since working there, but it's not for lack of snacking. When people leave they invariably lose weight as they're not taking in these invisible calories from the odd bowl of chips.

It can work both ways. I know chefs that are severely underweight, don't want to eat because they're sick of looking at food all day.

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