Ryanair boils it's Dutch Passengers!!

Stark · 21-08-2012 08:51PM

Solair wrote: »

Is there no law regarding the maximum temperatures for work-places / indoor public spaces (excluding saunas and steam-rooms obviously)?

Don't think so. Remember looking it up before when our office was like a sauna and there wasn't anything.

ejmaztec · 21-08-2012 08:59PM

Fryinair

wyndhurst · 21-08-2012 09:10PM

When the plane is on stand the A/C is provided by a hook up to A/C units at the stand. These are widely used in Continental EU, Middle East and Asia. Not provided for in Ireland (temps do not warrant it).
In the air, the planes A/C is driven from the engines.
Sitting on the runway the A/C does not work as the engines are idling.

Supercell · 21-08-2012 09:10PM

Not only Ryan Air does this. Last summer I was stuck on an Air France plane for 5 hours on the tarmac with no air con with blazing sun outside while they fixed something electrical to do with a wing apparently It was a long haul flight to China so we all had to endure another 12 hours on the plane after that once the bloody thing took off.

Elessar · 21-08-2012 09:12PM

Stinicker wrote: »

Untrue, Airliners have what is called the APU, (Auxiliary Power Unit) basically it is a generator which provides the electricity for running the plane etc. when the plane becomes airborne the power is generated from the Jet engines instead.

Basically it most likely comes down to Ryanair being too mean to run the APU on the plane to provide A/C to their passengers and would rather let them sweat it out rather than burn a few gallons fuel. It might also of course have been faulty. This is the same airline that allows its planes to run with the bare minimum of fuel requirements and saw three of its planes having to declare emergency landings recently in Spain because their planes were running low on fuel after diversions due to bad weather in the area.

Eh, no. The planes that had were low on fuel were low on fuel due to circumstances, not due to Ryanair. AFAIK (and someone can correct me here, I have been out of the airliner loop recently) an aeroplane MUST have enough fuel to reach its destination AND a further 45 mins flight time for holding AND a further hour to reach their alternate destination. From what I read the Ryanair aircraft that called Mayday had reached their 45 minute fuel reserve so had no choice but to request priority. Had it been Aer Lingus or British Airways planes they would have had to do the same thing. There were storms in Spain resulting in diversions and holding patterns for aircraft in the area.

Sonics2k · 21-08-2012 09:17PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Why do people still fly with ryanair? It's definitely not worth the cheaper flight!

I've been using Ryanair about once a month for the better part of the year to fly to the UK, and my girlfriend uses it to fly over here.

Neither of us have ever had any problems with them.

I'm not exactly a fan of the company, and I can't stand O'Leary. But people are willing to complain so much about them trying to sell you things, when all I've ever done is just say "No thanks" and they wander off.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 21-08-2012 09:21PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Why do people still fly with ryanair? It's definitely not worth the cheaper flight!

It's not even all that cheaper these days. Berlin to Stockholm, when you factor in the extra costs, plus one bag in the hold and the price of the 80 minute stuttle to the city, was actually only 3 euro cheaper than the next closest competitor.

gozunda · 21-08-2012 09:25PM

Anyone remember the Ryanair Stand Up Seating proposal stunt in 2010?

I reckon if Ryanair actually took out the AC, the seating, the airline staff etc they could charge passengers €5 and people could walk :rolleyes:

ejmaztec · 21-08-2012 09:35PM

gozunda wrote: »

Anyone remember the Ryanair Stand Up Seating proposal stunt in 2010?

I reckon if Ryanair actually took out the AC, the seating, the airline staff etc they could charge passengers €5 and people could walk :rolleyes:

Look out for the half-price holidays in a Ryanair Boeing 737 simulator.

Cookie_Monster · 21-08-2012 09:41PM

Stinicker wrote: »

This is the same airline that allows its planes to run with the bare minimum of fuel requirements and saw three of its planes having to declare emergency landings recently in Spain because their planes were running low on fuel after diversions due to bad weather in the area.

Untrue as well. They had to divert and hold for an hour over the airport. Once a plane reaches a certain level of fuel it must declare a mayday so people are aware and it gets priority. They had plenty of reserves and landed without issue. There were several other companies planes in the same situation including Aer Lingus but for some odd reason that didn't get reported...

Alter-Ego · 21-08-2012 09:56PM

Ray Dow wrote: »

Aaaaah Ryanair. Any day now to the big disaster...

Have a look at their safety record. What leads you to believe that there is big disaster on the way?

ejmaztec · 21-08-2012 10:04PM

Supercell wrote: »

Not only Ryan Air does this. Last summer I was stuck on an Air France plane for 5 hours on the tarmac with no air con with blazing sun outside while they fixed something electrical to do with a wing apparently It was a long haul flight to China so we all had to endure another 12 hours on the plane after that once the bloody thing took off.

I doubt it was an electrical problem, they were probably siphoning the fuel out of some other airliner's fuel tank so they could take off.

NegativeCreep · 21-08-2012 10:08PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

It's not even all that cheaper these days. Berlin to Stockholm, when you factor in the extra costs, plus one bag in the hold and the price of the 80 minute stuttle to the city, was actually only 3 euro cheaper than the next closest competitor.

I know yeah, there's extra costs everywhere. I just don't think its worth it. I'd rather fly aerlingus and enjoy the flight than go with ryanair and get treated like ****. I also wouldn't fly with ryanair because I hate that smug O'Leary cnut and hate the idea of him getting any of my money

Cienciano · 21-08-2012 10:11PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I know yeah, there's extra costs everywhere. I just don't think its worth it. I'd rather fly aerlingus and enjoy the flight than go with ryanair and get treated like ****. I also wouldn't fly with ryanair because I hate that smug O'Leary cnut and hate the idea of him getting any of my money

I'd rather Ryanair than Aer Lingus. I've flown about 200 times with Ryanair without a problem. Aer Lingus are a bunch of cunts.

Pottler · 21-08-2012 10:16PM

I've met MOL and he's a funny fecker. Very opinionated, very quirky. Doubt he's losing any sweat over this. Anyway, whatt'd they want for €1, aircon? What's that? It wasn't €1 after all the extras? That's an aircon - there ye go, ye got it.

Mr Benevolent · 21-08-2012 10:16PM

af_thefragile wrote: »

Do planes also have ACs?

Yes, but it costs fuel to use them. The APU could have been inop with no external power.

Stark · 21-08-2012 10:20PM

Alter-Ego wrote: »

Have a look at their safety record. What leads you to believe that there is big disaster on the way?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0816/ryanair-spain.html

Given that air disasters are an infrequent event, having a perfect record doesn't mean your odds of being hit by a future disaster are less than your competitors (except maybe Air France).

ejmaztec · 21-08-2012 10:21PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I know yeah, there's extra costs everywhere. I just don't think its worth it. I'd rather fly aerlingus and enjoy the flight than go with ryanair and get treated like ****. I also wouldn't fly with ryanair because I hate that smug O'Leary cnut and hate the idea of him getting any of my money

With Aer Lingus, isn't he getting a share of your money anyway?:P

I don't really think that there's much difference between the two airlines, they both try and get you to part with your hard-earned cash one way or the other, and I've never noticed a difference in their interaction with the passengers.

NegativeCreep · 21-08-2012 10:23PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

With Aer Lingus, isn't he getting a share of your money anyway?:P

I don't really think that there's much difference between the two airlines, they both try and get you to part with your hard-earned cash one way or the other, and I've never noticed a difference in their interaction with the passengers.

Now you've ruined holidays for me!

:pac:

stoneill · 21-08-2012 10:26PM

MOL was probably getting the cabin crew all hot to strip off for their calendar.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/03/ryanairs-cabin-crew-calendar_n_1072484.html

Alter-Ego · 21-08-2012 10:29PM

Stark wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0816/ryanair-spain.html

Given that air disasters are an infrequent event, having a perfect record doesn't mean your odds of being hit by a future disaster are less than your competitors (except maybe Air France).

They run the regulation amounts of fuel required.

The reasons why these guys hadn't enough fuel is because of the Ryanair policy and corporate culture with regard to fuel and the fuel policy

According to the IALPA...

af_thefragile · 21-08-2012 10:31PM

Supercell wrote: »

Not only Ryan Air does this. Last summer I was stuck on an Air France plane for 5 hours on the tarmac with no air con with blazing sun outside while they fixed something electrical to do with a wing apparently It was a long haul flight to China so we all had to endure another 12 hours on the plane after that once the bloody thing took off.

Flew with Air France once, never again!! They're one of the worst airlines out there!

I learnt to stick with the Middle Eastern airline for long haul flights...

Pottler · 21-08-2012 10:38PM

4 hours is my flying limit. Anymore and I turn into the Hulk. 4 hours is also "pushing it there me laddie" so no hope of it being cheapcuntair unless the missus booked it, in which case it's guaranteed to be "Businthesky" by OLeary and co. I hate flying cheapo, it's a form of masochism.

Scruffles · 21-08-2012 10:59PM

its just as well there was no passengers with severe epilepsy as overheating triggers seizures,ryanair woud have no doubt lost a lot more than customers.
they need to develop some respect for their own company and the people who pay their wages.

emo72 · 21-08-2012 11:02PM

was stuck baking on a delayed flight for about an hour. its ****ing agony. claustrophobic. no air.trying not to lose it. i start losing it when im heading northbound on the m50. its bad.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 21-08-2012 11:07PM

Cienciano wrote: »

I'd rather Ryanair than Aer Lingus. I've flown about 200 times with Ryanair without a problem. Aer Lingus are a bunch of cunts.

True, but you do get the feeling that it's a roulette wheel. One of these days, you'll get on the wrong flight and the person you're suddenly reading about is you.

As I said, half the time the price difference isn;t as much as you;d think ayway.

eth0 · 22-08-2012 12:17AM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Now you've ruined holidays for me!
:pac:

Surely there's a boat you can take, he doesnt own those i dont think.

Michael o'leary isnt even that cheap. In the start he shows you flights for a fiver but by the time you're actually paying for them its over 100e. Or 160 if you forget to print your boarding pass

unkel · 22-08-2012 12:53AM

Stinicker wrote: »

it is a major news story in the Netherlands at the moment..

No, it's not a major news story.

No mention of it anywhere in Dutch mainstream media that I saw. Maybe because it's a non-story (even in slow slow media August)

Yes, it was very hot that day in Eindhoven (it did not break the all time record, but it came close). And believe me, late 30s in Eindhoven is very uncomfortable as the city is very inland (about 200km from the sea)

I don't know what happened - if or why people were allowed onto the plane which was then not allowed to depart?

I have used Ryanair flights to and from Eindhoven airport many, many times and I am delighted with Ryanair's service there. Cheap flights, no time wasted, more regular time keeping even than Dutch trains

Flying there again and back this weekend. My 15 minute taxi journeys in Dublin will cost me more than my flights to Eindhoven and back here to Dublin...

Maybe we should concentrate, for once, on the huge benefits Ryanair have brought most of us over the past 10-15 years. At zero cost to the tax payer.

Maybe we should scrutinise the enormous waste of money for terrible services that we as the tax payers actually do have to pay for.

Biggins · 22-08-2012 01:29AM

Its Ryanair - I would not expect anything less from the management there.

Ryanair boils it's Dutch Passengers!!

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