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Needless violent scenes in TV shows

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    Anyone know what channel it's on?
    Preferably if it was starting from season one. Just so I can form a informed opinion on it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    Violence is just another layer that is used to heighten the atmosphere while watching, not just shove the story along. I found this especially true for Drive and The Wire. OP I think you may have failed to realise Criminal Minds is about people tracking down the most disturbing crimes in America, surely they're going to need to convey some of that to give context to the show.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    I don't think they do any harm, we all know its just TV. I was watching the Spartacus thing that was OTT but I felt it was more cartoonish then real.

    But the whole thing now about what kids can see, Most the cartoons we all enjoyed are now banned, sesame street released some back issues for DVD and had to give a warning "not suitable for children" as there were people smoking in them, kids riding a bike with no helmet and some puppets getting a smack.

    So now chilrens TV is like some big acid trip, its fukcen weird. It can't be healthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭AllWasWell


    There's something really fascinating about watching really violent tv

    I'm not unstable or anything tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Spartacus is just weird. Although a 5 min lezzing seen can be, um, entertaining, its pretty unnecessary
    paddyandy wrote: »
    For those lacking concentration and attention span;
    There is no such thing as 'good' on tv that lasts more than 10 seconds .
    People are fascinated by Evil especially when they are young .
    People get hurt by envy quite soon.
    People don't understand the formula .

    paddyandy, I don't know if you are a pensioner who shouldn't be allowed near the internet, or just the worst troll ever


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    Started watching the second season of Criminal Minds today and in one of the episodes it starts off with a couple getting a letter from their daughter, the letter says she is having a great time etc and theres a DVD, which they assume is pics, turns out to be a DVD of their daughter getting raped.
    The scene shows the distressed looking woman getting thrown onto a table by her attacker who is raping her... then you have a reaction shot of the parents(father dies of a heart attack).

    I thought it was quite disturbing, but also unnecessary, the reaction shot of the parents would have got the message across grand. Seemed like the scene was just thrown in for the sake of it, it was needless (disturbed me to such an extent that I turned it off).

    Does anyone else think that many TV shows are unnecessarily violent?

    You choose a tag name of Fenian army and a little bit of TV drama disturbs you:rolleyes: let me guess you thought the name sounded cool but know nothing about Fenian history or origins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    OP you should check out this fun family show called 'Spartacus: Blood and sand'

    Yeah, after that check out a delightful show called 'Oz'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    c_man wrote: »
    Yeah, after that check out a delightful show called 'Oz'

    That was a delightful show I thought the shower scenes were great



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    scwazrh wrote: »
    You choose a tag name of Fenian army and a little bit of TV drama disturbs you:rolleyes: let me guess you thought the name sounded cool but know nothing about Fenian history or origins.
    Paddy McCourt's Fenain Army.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,504 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    That is why we have a watershed. After 9pm shows are aimed more towards adults so we should be aware that scenes may have an adult theme whether sexual or violent. There is usually a warning before the shows (especially the American ones). Having said that I watched the first scene in the youtube clip posted and there was nothing of note in it.

    LOL your username would indicate a preference for violence:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    paddyandy wrote: »
    There is no good on the Telly that lasts more than ten seconds though people are fascinated by evil when young .People are hurt at the sight of good soon enough .Amazing that most people don't understand the formula yet .

    You wear a lot of beige don't you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Itchy and Scratchy parodies the violence in Tom and Jerry.

    Nothing to see here folks, move along.
    Good point; if you want proper, visceral, gratuitous violence just watch some classic children's cartoons, where characters got minced on a regular basis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    kylith wrote: »
    Good point; if you want proper, visceral, gratuitous violence just watch some classic children's cartoons, where characters got minced on a regular basis.

    Road Runner was an epic show for that. the coyote got minced in 20 different ways in less than 3 minutes. Still one of the best cartoons ever made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭xxyyxx


    Started watching the second season of Criminal Minds today and in one of the episodes it starts off with a couple getting a letter from their daughter, the letter says she is having a great time etc and theres a DVD, which they assume is pics, turns out to be a DVD of their daughter getting raped.
    The scene shows the distressed looking woman getting thrown onto a table by her attacker who is raping her... then you have a reaction shot of the parents(father dies of a heart attack).

    I thought it was quite disturbing, but also unnecessary, the reaction shot of the parents would have got the message across grand. Seemed like the scene was just thrown in for the sake of it, it was needless (disturbed me to such an extent that I turned it off).

    Does anyone else think that many TV shows are unnecessarily violent?

    Having watched the start of the show on the Youtube clip I can see that you have exaggerated what you saw on television.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    I find some tv too violent also (Game of thrones :eek:) so I just change the channel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    xxyyxx wrote: »
    Having watched the start of the show on the Youtube clip I can see that you have exaggerated what you saw on television.

    It's quite tame really. Deserves a 15 cert, not even an 18 certificate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,161 ✭✭✭tok9


    KeithM89 wrote: »
    The entire episodes here on youtube if anyone wants to see it :p

    Had to watch the opening scene to see what the OP was on about.

    It's pretty tame by violence in some tv shows but more importantly who the hell closes a laptop while the clip is still playing!?

    It's not going to look great when his superior comes in and the character opens his laptop to a girl getting raped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    OP, never watch the film Irreversible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Started watching the second season of Criminal Minds today and in one of the episodes it starts off with a couple getting a letter from their daughter, the letter says she is having a great time etc and theres a DVD, which they assume is pics, turns out to be a DVD of their daughter getting raped.
    The scene shows the distressed looking woman getting thrown onto a table by her attacker who is raping her... then you have a reaction shot of the parents(father dies of a heart attack).

    I thought it was quite disturbing, but also unnecessary, the reaction shot of the parents would have got the message across grand. Seemed like the scene was just thrown in for the sake of it, it was needless (disturbed me to such an extent that I turned it off).

    Does anyone else think that many TV shows are unnecessarily violent?

    Your level of tolerance to violence at times might be different to others depending on an ever changing number of factors - taking that also into account - if any violence is in a programme or film, etc and its only put in there as 'filler' and frankly is unnecessary to a story/objective, then it shouldn't be in there.

    Given that some have a different tolerances in reacting to seeing violence levels, sometime what you consider enough to be shocking and enough to get across a terrifying situation, might not be enough for others and the makers of such programmes try cater for those too, to get across better to all, maybe the horror of a situation better or its after-effects.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Madam_X wrote: »
    I find some tv too violent also (Game of thrones :eek:) so I just change the channel.

    Ha ha

    It's not that bad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    Started watching the second season of Criminal Minds today and in one of the episodes it starts off with a couple getting a letter from their daughter, the letter says she is having a great time etc and theres a DVD, which they assume is pics, turns out to be a DVD of their daughter getting raped.
    The scene shows the distressed looking woman getting thrown onto a table by her attacker who is raping her... then you have a reaction shot of the parents(father dies of a heart attack).

    I thought it was quite disturbing, but also unnecessary, the reaction shot of the parents would have got the message across grand. Seemed like the scene was just thrown in for the sake of it, it was needless (disturbed me to such an extent that I turned it off).

    Does anyone else think that many TV shows are unnecessarily violent?

    could have been enough with the reaction shots but not the same impact and from the sounds of it the scene calls for it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    magnumbud wrote: »
    could have been enough with the reaction shots but not the same impact and from the sounds of it the scene calls for it

    having watched the clip what a complete over reaction. jeez if you think thats bad never watch the girl with the dragon tatoo


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    magnumbud wrote: »
    having watched the clip what a complete over reaction. jeez if you think thats bad never watch the girl with the dragon tatoo

    The bedroom rape scene?
    The original version or the lesser (in my opinion) imitation English speaking version?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    Biggins wrote: »
    The bedroom rape scene?
    The original version or the lesser (in my opinion) imitation English speaking version?

    either as both are far more graphic than the scene in this which what shows a girl in her bra and side showing showing she is not wearing underwear but seeing nothing. and insinuating she is about to get raped but not showing anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I vote the OP should change his username to Salvation Army.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,836 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Biggins wrote: »
    The bedroom rape scene?
    The original version or the lesser (in my opinion) imitation English speaking version?

    Swedish one dark but she better now read the book version of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Seen the Swedish one. Excellent performance by yer woman, but I was a bit dissapointed in the overall thing plotwise. Second one was ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    Swedish one dark but she better now read the book version of it

    lets just say anything with the girl with the dragon tatoo in it she should avoid. also the hills have eyes one and two (newer ones) both have fairly graphic rape scenes


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