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Germans allow their army to be deployed on the streets if needed!

  • 17-08-2012 06:15PM
    #1
    Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭


    German court widens army's internal crisis role

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19295351

    The German military will in future be able to use its weapons on German streets in an extreme situation, the Federal Constitutional Court says.
    The ruling says the armed forces can be deployed only if Germany faces an assault of "catastrophic proportions", but not to control demonstrations.
    The decision to deploy forces must be approved by the federal government.
    Severe restrictions on military deployments were set down in the German constitution after Nazi-era abuses.
    The court says the military still cannot shoot down a hijacked passenger plane - fighter jets would have to intercept the plane and fire warning shots to force it to land.
    After World War II the new constitution ruled that soldiers could not be deployed with guns at the ready on German soil, the BBC's Stephen Evans reports from Berlin.

    This could be very worrying, do the German government expect civil unrest in the near future or something and more to the point how long would it be before such powers are granted in other countries or even here!

    Could the imminent Euro (currency) breakup be the prelude to a period of strife, aka the European winter....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Never underestimate the Germans. Never!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Youre reading into this too much. Sounds like a normal piece of legislation that would be common to any country. The US has the National Guard. How is this different?

    Just sounds to me like theyre sorting this **** out now before it's actually a problem, much farther into the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭who what when


    What is it about the genetic makeup of germans that makes them love conflict. They're practically addicted to it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    This type of thread is more suited to Conspiracy Theories. Tinfoil hats ahoy!


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dolanbaker wrote: »
    This could be very worrying, do the German government expect civil unrest in the near future or something and more to the point how long would it be before such powers are granted in other countries or even here!

    Could the imminent Euro (currency) breakup be the prelude to a period of strife, aka the European winter....

    It's to prevent things like the ****-up at the Munich Olympics where they had to use poorly-trained police and people ended up dead. Think the provision goes back to WWII and I'm just surprised it took them so long to get rid of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    The court says the military still cannot shoot down a hijacked passenger plane - fighter jets would have to intercept the plane and fire warning shots to force it to land.
    How in the fuck would that work? If you know they can't shoot you, you'd just keep flying, surely?


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What is it about the genetic makeup of germans that makes them love conflict. They're practically addicted to it!

    I'm gonna go with "lolwut?".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭who what when


    I'm gonna go with "lolwut?".

    Have you ever watched the history channel?


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Have you ever watched the history channel?

    They always just fought among themselves yeah? No other country is comparable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    How in the fuck would that work? If you know they can't shoot you, you'd just keep flying, surely?

    Well how would it work here?

    Scramble one of our 2 (3?) unarmed 40 year old jets and throw cabbages at it?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Ahh the German's a lovely bunch of lads.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Have you ever watched the history channel?
    Don't you mean The Swamp Axe Truckers Channel?


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where To wrote: »
    Don't you mean The Swamp Axe Truckers Channel?

    Therefore, aliens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Do other countries already not allow this in their constitution?

    The americans have "Martial Law"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭saiint


    law doesnt really matter being honest
    in any country in the world
    if the goverment thought their would be a civil unrest
    the army would be deployed either way
    this law just makes them justify it now thats all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    This will just allow them to have the same ability as other countries. The restrictions put on the military were massive after WW2.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I'd imagine it's a message to neo-Nazis that they will face lethal force if they push things too far - and rightly so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    Ich für meinen Teil begrüße unsere neuen Deutsche Uberlorden


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭policarp


    Ich für meinen Teil begrüße unsere neuen Deutsche Uberlorden


    Que?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 574 ✭✭✭bdoo


    This will just allow them to have the same ability as other countries. The restrictions put on the military were massive after WW2.

    They were bigger after WW1! Didn't stop Adolf!

    I remember a fella being in our house when I was a kid, a man from the north, he was goin on about the proposed single currency, I can't remember his exact words but the just of it was that the euro was the third German attempt at European domination.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Ich für meinen Teil begrüße unsere neuen Deutsche Uberlorden

    I thought we had welcomed them years ago, nein?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭megafan


    If at first you don't succeed try, try & try again...... they certianly have us under control now........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    What is it about the genetic makeup of germans that makes them love conflict. They're practically addicted to it!

    ......how do you think the Brits, French and Russians got their empires? Hugs and cake?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭osheen


    Aquila wrote: »
    Nodin wrote: »
    ......how do you think the Brits, French and Russians got their empires? Hugs and cake?

    Ale,Champagne and Vodka?:pac:

    Dont forget the hundreds of thousands of irish men that helped the brits do it. and one time nearly 60% of their army and navy were irishmen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    na , rubbish

    the Germans are just catching up with the rest of EU nations ,
    they were not allowed due to laws from after ww2

    there was a similar uproar when the germans were allowed to send troops to Afghanistan under the NATO banner , it was the first time German combat troops have left Germany since ww2 ,

    and they did not invade Europe then so cant se why now , non story IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭jay-me


    osheen wrote: »
    Dont forget the hundreds of thousands of irish men that helped the brits do it. and one time nearly 60% of their army and navy were irishmen.

    They also drank the majority of the aforementioned drinks!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    [QUOTE=--Kaiser--;80290249]This type of thread is more suited to Conspiracy Theories. Tinfoil hats ahoy![/QUOTE]

    The gerrys trying to dismiss the concern caused by this as crazy conspiracy theory ravings, who do they think they are fooling.:rolleyes:

    "We serve neither King nor Kaiser but Ireland"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭Yester


    D1stant wrote: »
    Well how would it work here?

    Scramble one of our 2 (3?) unarmed 40 year old jets and throw cabbages at it?

    We can only fire warning cabbages.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    Ich für meinen Teil begrüße unsere neuen Deutsche Uberlorden

    I don't understand why you are posting in Irish,:(

    The German army have been deployed with Nato they served in Kosovo and are currently serving in Afghanistan but in a limited way.

    They are not what they use to be. I read an account about a post they were guarding that came under rocket fire, so they abandoned it. The Canadian commander of the post asked why and the excuse given was it was to cold and not heated properly.

    Yeah that's my type of army. If all armies took that attitude there would be no wars anymore.


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