Pussy Riot

Procrastastudy · 17-08-2012 12:18PM #1

Who copied who? They look like the female Russian rubber bandits!

17-08-2012 12:19PM

Who cares? Get back to your study.

frozenfrozen · 17-08-2012 12:20PM

rubberbandits have been doing their thing for a long time

Procrastastudy · 17-08-2012 12:20PM

Be in a good mood! I'm having a break :P

starbelgrade · 17-08-2012 12:23PM

In Soviet Russia sentence backwards something something.

mike65 · 17-08-2012 12:25PM

In Russia Pussy Riot Are Guilty.

frag420 · 17-08-2012 12:26PM

I thought title said Pussy Rot....................Disapointed!

RikkFlair · 17-08-2012 12:27PM

I saw Madonna on telly last night with Pussy Riot written on her back.

I thought she was gonna expose something else after her boob show a while back.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 17-08-2012 12:27PM

I don't remember the rubbe bandits every doing a protest song or challenging anything?

conorhal · 17-08-2012 12:29PM

The best thing about this whole debacle has been watching starched collared newsreaders and stuffy political analysts squirm and try to avoid the gratuitous use of the word pussy on the six one news...

For that alone they should go free.

mike65 · 17-08-2012 12:30PM

I recall when Sex Pistols was a challenge!

Biggins · 17-08-2012 12:32PM

mike65 wrote: »

I recall when Sex Pistols was a challenge!

If you recall the Sex Pistols, your too old for Pussy Riots!

Me too!

grizzly · 17-08-2012 12:33PM

Does anyone find the masks a little eerie?

Lumbo · 17-08-2012 12:36PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I don't remember the rubbe bandits every doing a protest song or challenging anything?

They gave boy racers a run for their money with "Horse Outside".

Morlar · 17-08-2012 01:18PM

They were just found guilty. I wonder what would happen if they had tried this in Ireland at a mosque or synagogue or other non-christian place of worship.

Colmustard · 17-08-2012 01:22PM

Morlar wrote: »

They were just found guilty. I wonder what would happen if they had tried this in Ireland at a mosque or synagogue or other non-christian place of worship.

I wonder to.

Probably incitement to hatred and slapped on the wrist and told to get on their way.

But it is serious what they did, its not all about the despotic Putin.

I hope those clothes keep them warm in the Gulag.

nudger · 17-08-2012 01:23PM

The pussy's got their cumuppances.

Lumbo · 17-08-2012 01:24PM

Free the Pussy 3

Biggins · 17-08-2012 01:25PM

Morlar wrote: »

They were just found guilty. I wonder what would happen if they had tried this in Ireland at a mosque or synagogue or other non-christian place of worship.

Might be found guilty (if the disturbance is bad enough) of breach of the peace?

Morlar · 17-08-2012 01:28PM

Biggins wrote: »

Might be found guilty (if the disturbance is bad enough) of breach of the peace?

If some Palestinian rights protestors broke into a synagogue in Dublin and sang a profanity laced song offensive to the worshippers regarding support for israel then I think 'breach of peace' would be getting off extremely lightly. Could be wrong but I am pretty sure they'd be looking at jailtime in Ireland for that 'incitement to hatred' / 'hate crime' type stuff. In any event I doubt the media and likes of Madonna would rush to their defence in a non-christian equivalent of the same.

Colmustard · 17-08-2012 01:29PM

Biggins wrote: »

Might be found guilty (if the disturbance is bad enough) of breach of the peace?

They sang the song in a cathedral during a religious ceronmony so there was an incitement to hatred.

It was a serious crime, its not all about the cutn Putin.

jaykay74 · 17-08-2012 01:33PM

Just seen that Garry Kasparov has been arrested outside the trial. If you don't believe me then check mate

Biggins · 17-08-2012 01:33PM

Colmustard wrote: »

They sang the song in a cathedral during a religious ceronmony so there was an incitement to hatred.

It was a serious crime, its not all about the cutn Putin.

They could sing a song of protest about Putin at a bar - would that make them guilty of incitement to hatred to drink?

Open your eyes.
They chose the church because it was an area that would give them publicity and had a large gathering.

It had nothing to do with religious hatred. Thats just the charge used to jail them.
They also did not utter one word of any hatred speech towards any religion by the way.
Anyone that is daft enough to think they are involved in "religious hatred" is blind and ignorant of many facts.

...And yes, it was all about Putin!

gothictwilight · 17-08-2012 01:37PM

The little I know is the Orthodox Church in Russia has backed Putin all the way.
The protest in the church was directed at Putin.
This event just shows how fragile Democracy is in Russia.

Morlar · 17-08-2012 01:38PM

Biggins wrote: »

They could sing a song of protest about Putin at a bar - would that make them guilty of incitement to hatred to drink?

Open your eyes.
They chose the church because it was an area that would give them publicity and had a large gathering.

It hand nothing to do with religious hatred. Thats just the charge used to jail them.
They also did not utter one word of any hatred speech towards any religion by the way.

There is a fundamental difference between a commercial enterprise/pub/restaurant and a place of worship in the middle of a religious ceremony, equating the two is disingenous imo.

They chose to interfere with a religous ceremony & it's worshippers at a church.

I think it is a valid question : if they had done exactly the same in Dublin today, at a Non-Christian place of worship in the middle of a ceremony, for example . . . a pro-Palestinian protest against Israel during a religuos ceremony at a synagogue laced with profanities all wearing facemasks etc . . . . what do you honestly think would happen to them then ?

Colmustard · 17-08-2012 01:39PM

Biggins wrote: »

They could sing a song of protest about Putin at a bar - would that make them guilty of incitement to hatred to drink?

Open your eyes.
They chose the church because it was an area that would give them publicity and had a large gathering.

It had nothing to do with religious hatred. Thats just the charge used to jail them.
They also did not utter one word of any hatred speech towards any religion by the way.
Anyone that is daft enough to think they are involved in "religious hatred" is blind and ignorant of many facts.

It was still disrespectful of the worshippers. They chose to upset some worshippers for publicity, they got that, but they still committed the crime.

Picture a scantily clad band going into the Prop cathedral during a Sunday mass and singing an anti Enda song.

They would be done and IMO rightly so.

dttq · 17-08-2012 01:40PM

Wouldn't mind been in the middle of a pussy riot myself at the moment, and I'm talking about felines either

Biggins · 17-08-2012 01:44PM

Colmustard wrote: »

It was still disrespectful of the worshippers. They chose to upset some worshippers for publicity, they got that, but they still committed the crime.

Picture a scantily clad band going into the Prop cathedral during a Sunday mass and singing an anti Enda song.

They would be done and IMO rightly so.

It might have been disrespectful of the worshippers - they might have decided to protest during a religious moment - however the very facts is that they DID NOT say anything that espoused they were inciting hatred towards religion.

They were actually protesting against Putin inserting himself and abusing religious orders to get his way.
They were by effect, standing up for religion - not espousing hatred of it.

Go actually learn the facts and/or listen to their very words.

Anyone that says they were guilty of religious hatred is bloody uneducated idiot!
A person devoid of the actual facts or one that refuses to actually look at them.

Mr Whirly · 17-08-2012 01:44PM

Morlar wrote: »

There is a fundamental difference between a commercial enterprise/pub/restaurant and a place of worship in the middle of a religious ceremony, equating the two is disingenous imo.

They chose to interfere with a religous ceremony & it's worshippers at a church.

I think it is a valid question : if they had done exactly the same in Dublin today, at a Non-Christian place of worship in the middle of a ceremony, for example . . . a pro-Palestinian protest against Israel during a religuos ceremony at a synagogue laced with profanities all wearing facemasks etc . . . . what do you honestly think would happen to them then ?

They were not attacking any minorities. If a group of Palestinians (not white Irish students) held a protest at a synagogue I'd imagine that not very much would happen and I doubt they would go to jail.

Morlar · 17-08-2012 01:47PM

Mr Whirly wrote: »

They were not attacking any minorities. If a group of Palestinians (not white Irish students) held a protest at a synagogue I'd imagine that not very much would happen and I doubt they would go to jail.

Except this wasn't at a church it was in a church during a religious ceremony, profanity laced mask wearing etc.

I disagree with the notion that a group could do that in Dublin today and avoid prison time, or, that the media and likes of madonna would be as sympathetic / supportive of the action.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 17-08-2012 01:48PM

Lumbo wrote: »

They gave boy racers a run for their money with "Horse Outside".

And wedding planners too, I beleive.

jaykay74 wrote: »

Just seen that Garry Kasparov has been arrested outside the trial. If you don't believe me then check mate

Bad move.

Intestingly, they were convicted of "hooliganism" - which implies that even if they had protested somewhere else, the result woulf have been the same.

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