CAP 2 Exams 2012

reo49 · 17-08-2012 10:09AM

apeking wrote: »

Wouldn't agree. The average mark in the exams is 45-55. Lucky just to be the right side

So its a coincidence that the overall pass, credit and fail rates are almost identical to last year.

ted2767 · 17-08-2012 10:09AM

reo49 wrote: »

new_accountant wrote: »

Well, they passed so that's all that matters......

They can thank the rest of the students for doing worse than them.

Jesus can you not say well done?

reo49 · 17-08-2012 10:12AM

ted2767 wrote: »

Jesus can you not say well done?

Just stating the facts, not my fault the truth hurts.

Username2011 · 17-08-2012 10:13AM

reo49 wrote: »

Just stating the facts, not my fault the truth hurts.

What are you on?
A guy passed.
Another guy said well done.
Don't see what in there is actually "hurting"

ted2767 · 17-08-2012 10:15AM

bikeman1 wrote: »

Failed Financial Reporting which I'm not too surprised about. 50 in tax and Audit and 55 in SFMA. Just dreading the thought of having to do that paper again.

Does anyone else think it's a bit unfair that 47% of us sat FR failed? I would even say that some people were bumped up to pass at that. Why have a paper that only half of the students can pass and only barely at that.

Hopefully the Autumn paper will be a lot fairer.

Yeah FR was a rough paper alright about as bad as any of the past papers I've seen.

At least you only have one to resit so obviously you have a much decreased work load.

I wouldn'd ignore last Summers paper if I were you it's def worth looking ove the solution.

new_accountant · 17-08-2012 10:20AM

reo49 wrote: »

Just stating the facts, not my fault the truth hurts.

The truth hurts? The original poster hasn't even replied. That post is completely against the vast majority on this forum who support and wish others well.

ted2767 · 17-08-2012 10:20AM

reo49 wrote: »

ted2767 wrote: »

Jesus can you not say well done?

Just stating the facts, not my fault the truth hurts.

Am not going to argue with you but Christ you need to lighten up.

I passed am delighted and feel for anybody who didn't as I know how much work goes into.

Frankly I couldn't care less if it's a curve or whatever exams passed end of story.

reo49 · 17-08-2012 10:23AM

ted2767 wrote: »

Frankly I couldn't care less if it's a curve or whatever exams passed end of story.

Right attitude, my post was more for the other guy. Now go have a drink and enjoy your day!

new_accountant · 17-08-2012 10:24AM

ted2767 wrote: »

Am not going to argue with you but Christ you need to lighten up.

I passed am delighted and feel for anybody who didn't as I know how much work goes into.

Frankly I couldn't care less if it's a curve or whatever exams passed end of story.

Well said.

The overall pass rate for FR is very low, it was a time consuming paper.

lydia123 · 17-08-2012 10:25AM

It not important what percentage people get, they pass a certain amount of people - same as in other institutions/colleges etc.
People should be happy (and I'm sure they are!) that they got into the upper half of people who passed. I wouldn't care if I got 30% and got bumped up to 50% because of an overall bad performance as long as I passed.
Same as I wouldn't care if I got 50% on the button or if I got 80% and got a gold medal. I don't think people should be so scathing just get on with it. Like Ted 2767 said, I couldn't care about curves or whatever. Anyone who passes a Cap2 subject should be delighted with themselves and people should be happy for them and congratulate them, there is so much to be covered in the 3.5/4 hours!
Sorry I'm rambling a bit there but I didn't sleep at all last night waiting for my result!
Well done to everyone who passed, if you failed just think forward to the repeat in a few weeks, just remember that you are just building on everything you studied just a few weeks ago - especially if that was your first time doing a Cap2 or prefessional exam, it'll be alot better the next time around.

new_accountant · 17-08-2012 10:25AM

reo49 wrote: »

Right attitude, my post was more for the other guy. Now go have a drink and enjoy your day!

What, for me? For saying well done? Lighten up.

reo49 · 17-08-2012 10:27AM

new_accountant wrote: »

What, for me? For saying well done? Lighten up.

Not even gonna bother with you anymore, clearly a waste of time!

smcgiff · 17-08-2012 10:37AM

Guys, can we keep it civil please - all adults here.

If someone wants to start a thread on their perceptions of the marking scheme, please do so, but keep this thread on topic.

Thanks

lydia123 · 17-08-2012 10:47AM

Also, if anyone is lost or panicking and wants to borrow them, I have really good generic audit procedure notes (that you obviously have to apply to the question without looking like you're listing off irrelevent stuff). If you want to take tham and copy them just pm me I really don't mind. I've given them to lots of people and they're a life saver.

CeevieD · 17-08-2012 11:14AM

Any advice for someone who failed four

Sorry for putting a downer on this thread... congrats to anyone who did well

An Citeog · 17-08-2012 11:55AM

CeevieD wrote: »

Any advice for someone who failed four

Sorry for putting a downer on this thread... congrats to anyone who did well

Blow it off this weekend and then start afresh next week or the week after. I've 2 friends that failed all 4 in the first sitting and got all 4 in the repeats (one last year and the other the year before), so it's definitely doable.

Stabshauptmann · 17-08-2012 09:16PM

CeevieD wrote: »

Any advice for someone who failed four

Sorry for putting a downer on this thread... congrats to anyone who did well

Yes.
1. Discuss with your manager that you would like to take additional unpaid leave / holidays in the run up to your repeats. Your firm will not be alloting enough time for you to do the repeats.
2. Attend revision courses offered by the Chartered Grind School.
3. Begin your study now.

1 & 2 will cost money - but if you fail your repeats you might be fired, or if kept on loose your annual increment. Suck it up, theres an FAE bonus to look forward to, sooner you pass CAP2 the better.

Stabshauptmann · 17-08-2012 09:17PM

Has the ICAI started caring about students privacy? Cant see results online

amber.mc · 18-08-2012 05:12AM

Congrats to all who done well in dr exams!!!

Sadly i failed all 4 :-( tax was not wat i expected and it kinda throu me for d rest and i ran out of time for fr and sfma :-( was thinking about talking to my manager on monday about just sitting two in d repeats and d others hopefully next summer.. Was wondering had anyone any advice as these were my first chartered exams..

Mark1916 · 18-08-2012 12:23PM

amber.mc wrote: »

Congrats to all who done well in dr exams!!!

Sadly i failed all 4 :-( tax was not wat i expected and it kinda throu me for d rest and i ran out of time for fr and sfma :-( was thinking about talking to my manager on monday about just sitting two in d repeats and d others hopefully next summer.. Was wondering had anyone any advice as these were my first chartered exams..

My one bit of advice is do what you feel is best for you if you think you have a chance of passing 2 then just do 2. Dislike the fact you lose a sitting if you don't sit all remaining exams. At the end of the day there is no point sitting all 4 just to sit all 4 and for the same to happen again whereby I'd you concentrate on 2 and pass the 2 well it will set you up nicely for next summer.

ted2767 · 18-08-2012 12:57PM

Mark1916 wrote: »

amber.mc wrote: »

Congrats to all who done well in dr exams!!!

Sadly i failed all 4 :-( tax was not wat i expected and it kinda throu me for d rest and i ran out of time for fr and sfma :-( was thinking about talking to my manager on monday about just sitting two in d repeats and d others hopefully next summer.. Was wondering had anyone any advice as these were my first chartered exams..

My one bit of advice is do what you feel is best for you if you think you have a chance of passing 2 then just do 2. Dislike the fact you lose a sitting if you don't sit all remaining exams. At the end of the day there is no point sitting all 4 just to sit all 4 and for the same to happen again whereby I'd you concentrate on 2 and pass the 2 well it will set you up nicely for next summer.

If you go down that route I'd advise doing audit and reporting if that's possible.
I found audit a bit easier if you had a good grasp of reporting standards.
Also for audit get papers and solutions for last 6 sittings, do up an index of what came up in what year i.e. risk, implication, testing and take it into the exam.
I found this to be extremly useful for me and was able to use it as a reference for loads of this summers paper.

Cathy0488 · 18-08-2012 03:19PM

I failed FR yesterday

Don't want to take any chances with the repeat so thinking doing a revision course.
Dave O'Donoghue is running the CGS course on the 2nd, 8th and 9th of September.
Michael Touhy is running the institute's revision course on Aug 25th, 26th and Sept 15th and 16th.

I would do both, but four weekends is very time-consuming, so I'm thinking of doing just the CGS course.

Would be extrememly grateful for any advice/thoughts??

An Citeog · 18-08-2012 05:37PM

Cathy0488 wrote: »

I failed FR yesterday

Don't want to take any chances with the repeat so thinking doing a revision course.
Dave O'Donoghue is running the CGS course on the 2nd, 8th and 9th of September.
Michael Touhy is running the institute's revision course on Aug 25th, 26th and Sept 15th and 16th.

I would do both, but four weekends is very time-consuming, so I'm thinking of doing just the CGS course.

Would be extrememly grateful for any advice/thoughts??

CGS is far better than any of the institute lectures, so of you've no problem paying for it, then go for that and use the rest of the time to study yourself.

Stabshauptmann · 18-08-2012 06:04PM

Cathy0488 wrote: »

I failed FR yesterday

Don't want to take any chances with the repeat so thinking doing a revision course.
Dave O'Donoghue is running the CGS course on the 2nd, 8th and 9th of September.
Michael Touhy is running the institute's revision course on Aug 25th, 26th and Sept 15th and 16th.

I would do both, but four weekends is very time-consuming, so I'm thinking of doing just the CGS course.

Would be extrememly grateful for any advice/thoughts??

I have never been able to sit through an entire lecture put on by the institute. I find the pace slow. I did the FAE revision courses with the CGS last year though and found them to be exactly what I was looking for (and got full marks in FAE core). Fully recommend CGS and consider it to be money well spent

the west · 19-08-2012 07:45AM

CGS school are good, but I ended up know 4 ways how to so certain pats of the coarse. you just have to settle on your technique especially consolidation and practice the hell out of it.

ted2767 · 19-08-2012 08:10AM

the west wrote: »

CGS school are good, but I ended up know 4 ways how to so certain pats of the coarse. you just have to settle on your technique especially consolidation and practice the hell out of it.

Agree 100%.

You will not pass if you cannot consolidate so find your technique and practice like hell.

Cathy0488 · 19-08-2012 02:11PM

Thanks for all the replies it really is appreciated!

I'm going to book the CGS revision course now. I have 6 weekends between now and the repeat; 2 will be spent at the course, and I'll just spent the other four weekends practicising like hell!!

Rickyroma · 19-08-2012 06:29PM

reo49 wrote: »

Or he/she really got 30% but beacause the majority of the rest of people did worse then the curve kicked in and they got bumped up to 50%.

Just to clarify, this comment could not be more incorrect.

There is no curve.

There is no predetermined pass rate.

Each paper is marked individually and borderline fails are re-marked by a second corrector. Each candidate is awarded the higher of the two grades.

Any candidate who passed these exams passed because of their own hard work.

Congratulations to those who did.

reo49 · 19-08-2012 07:51PM

Rickyroma wrote: »

Just to clarify, this comment could not be more incorrect.

There is no curve.

There is no predetermined pass rate.

Each paper is marked individually and borderline fails are re-marked by a second corrector. Each candidate is awarded the higher of the two grades.

Any candidate who passed these exams passed because of their own hard work.

Congratulations to those who did.

Just a major coincidence that the pass/fail/credit rates are almost identical as last year then, yeah right!

Daisy03 · 19-08-2012 08:47PM

Could it not just be that the standard of students is approximately the same year-on-year?

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