Sex Offender in Arbour Hill goes to court over Kosher food & onions.

zef · 16-08-2012 02:35PM #1

As reported in the Irish Independent today Ivan Peter Gan (48), aka Peter Ivan Dunne, claims that he is not being provided with kosher food at Arbour Hill prison in Dublin in accordance with his Jewish faith.
He wants to go to the High Court with this , saying they are not supplying his 'dietary needs'.

"Gan is currently serving a five-year jail term in Arbour Hill after he was convicted in Kilkenny Circuit Criminal Court of having sex with a mentally impaired woman.
The offence happened in Kilkenny in 2001, when the Englishman was working in the city."

He fled to England but was extradited to Ireland in 2009.

"Opposing his extradition on human rights grounds, he claimed to an English court that the Irish prison authorities would not provide him with food free from onions, which he is allergic to.
He further claimed that he would not be provided with kosher food and was at risk from republicans. However, his case was dismissed by the English courts."

Apparantly the Judge Justice Paul McDermott said he raised 'significant questions', and put hthe case back till October.

Onions! Demanding special Kosher food?

Personally I think because of his despicable crime and then fleeing the country he has some neck on him to be asking for special treatment.

16-08-2012 02:37PM

well if he's allergic to onions i think that's reasonable

Newaglish · 16-08-2012 02:40PM

You can't expect him to eat food that is essentially poisonous to him just because he's in prison. I think they have a duty to provide him with food he's not allergic to.

On the kosher front, I don't know, I presume his religion also forbids being a sex offender and he was OK ignoring that rule.

Duggy747 · 16-08-2012 02:47PM

I don't think dog food has onions in it :pac:

TommyKnocker · 16-08-2012 02:53PM

Newaglish wrote: »

You can't expect him to eat food that is essentially poisonous to him just because he's in prison. I think they have a duty to provide him with food he's not allergic to.

On the kosher front, I don't know, I presume his religion also forbids being a sex offender and he was OK ignoring that rule.

"A la Carte" religion

D1stant · 16-08-2012 02:56PM

No onions is fair enough. On the other hand there is now a place for all that imported garlic.... Yummy

Bad Panda · 16-08-2012 02:56PM

Newaglish wrote: »

You can't expect him to eat food that is essentially poisonous.

Yeah, Jesus, I hope the poor sex offender doesn't get poisoned.

RMD · 16-08-2012 02:57PM

Provide him with onion free food, he might be a scumbag but he's allergic to them. I'd love to see the judge say "What is your religions stance on sexual abuse" in relation to his kosher appeal. He forfeited his right to kosher when committed the crime as far as I'm concerned.

Dyr · 16-08-2012 02:57PM

Is he allergic to bread and cheese?

BunShopVoyeur · 16-08-2012 02:59PM

He raped a mentally impaired woman?

Shove a porkchop down the pricks throat.

johnwest288 · 16-08-2012 02:59PM

CHAIN GANG THEM ALL, GET THEM WORKINGGG:mad:

Get them Splitting rocks or picking up the rubbish in the canals.

zef · 16-08-2012 03:05PM

He is a convert to the Jewish faith, for 'several years' according to the Examiner.
I agree all prisoners have a right to eat of course, maybe its the crime he committed has me having no compassion for him.

petes · 16-08-2012 03:07PM

I think all the other prisoners should wear onions around their necks just like the French

IrishAm · 16-08-2012 03:07PM

Is he allergic to a noose?

rubadub · 16-08-2012 03:09PM

Newaglish wrote: »

I think they have a duty to provide him with food he's not allergic to.

I can picture all the boys in the joy now.

"I'm alleeeeerrgick to de porridge"
"and de cornflakes"
"this can go on all day, I need a fry up, extra bacon"

and as for religion.
"I'm a Flying Spaghetti Monster worshipper -I need to be let out at weekends, and can only eat filet mignon steaks for dinner"

Zebra3 · 16-08-2012 03:41PM

Does he only take circumcised too?

Cienciano · 16-08-2012 04:18PM

Imagine being allergic to onions? Nightmare. Onions make everything tastier.

MarkHitide · 16-08-2012 04:22PM

His special dietary requirements sound suspiciously convenient. I'm sure almost every dinner served in an Irish prison would have either onions or pork product in them.

girl in the striped socks · 16-08-2012 04:28PM

Porridge & water so.
Fcuk him making demands for kosher food, it's a prison not a fcuking hotel.
And wasting money bringing this to the high court? There's families with disabled children that can't get funding for proper resources & help.
And the irony is that this prick, especially given his crime, now has the ear of a high court judge & the media to bring his "plight" to light.
This story has really pissed me off.

IrishAm · 16-08-2012 04:30PM

MarkHitide wrote: »

His special dietary requirements sound suspiciously convenient. I'm sure almost every dinner served in an Irish prison would have either onions or pork product in them.

One of the Sunday papers published one of the prisons 28 day menu. They get four options for lunch and another four for dinner. The chefs(mostly prisoners too)are FETAC qualified, so the grub wouldn't be too bad at all.

MarkHitide · 16-08-2012 04:43PM

IrishAm wrote: »

One of the Sunday papers published one of the prisons 28 day menu. They get four options for lunch and another four for dinner. The chefs(mostly prisoners too)are FETAC qualified, so the grub wouldn't be too bad at all.

It's the gravies and sauces that would almost certainly contain the onion, and the poor fiend can't be expected to eat his dinner dry-

p to the e · 16-08-2012 04:56PM

Hmmmm sounds like the prison staff need a solution to this predicament. One great big Final Solution. Hmmmmm

My name is URL · 16-08-2012 05:04PM

They should give the fcuker nothing but onions

See how he likes them apples

Scruffles · 16-08-2012 05:05PM

MarkHitide wrote: »

His special dietary requirements sound suspiciously convenient. I'm sure almost every dinner served in an Irish prison would have either onions or pork product in them.

as someone who hates the taste and texture of onions [though wont claim its an allergy!] they are in a hell of a lot of stuff,honestly cannot see how he has managed to escape them up till now if he really is allergic.
has he actualy been tested and they confirmed it?

he doesnt like the food? they shoud get him prescribed ensure plus liquid; one small bottle of this is equal to a meal and he coud have one in place of each physical meal.
its bursting with nutrition so he cant complain it isnt a balanced diet,but all the flavours taste like vomit so he woud probably say he is allergic to that to.

Pompey Magnus · 16-08-2012 05:11PM

Newaglish wrote: »

On the kosher front, I don't know, I presume his religion also forbids being a sex offender and he was OK ignoring that rule.

For the record Judaism says the punishment for rape is that he should be forced to marry his victim (Deut 22:19) but it isn't exactly forbidden.

Lyaiera · 16-08-2012 05:32PM

You all do realise that feeding someone something they're allergic to is torture. Not effectively torture, but actual torture. No-one should have to endure that.

And saying, "Ah sure, everyone in there will be allergic to cornflakes, etc." doesn't mean much. There are doctors in prisons, it's fairly straightforward to do an alergy test.

Newaglish · 16-08-2012 05:38PM

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

For the record Judaism says the punishment for rape is that he should be forced to marry his victim (Deut 22:19) but it isn't exactly forbidden.

Well that's kind of depressing.

Real Life · 16-08-2012 05:46PM

BunShopVoyeur wrote: »

He raped a mentally impaired woman?

Shove a porkchop down the pricks throat.

it didnt say he raped her, is just having sex with a mentally impaired person considered rape?

girl in the striped socks · 16-08-2012 05:48PM

Real Life wrote: »

BunShopVoyeur wrote: »

He raped a mentally impaired woman?

Shove a porkchop down the pricks throat.

it didnt say he raped her, is just having sex with a mentally impaired person considered rape?

Well if they have the mental capacity of a ten year old child then it is in my book.

My name is URL · 16-08-2012 05:48PM

Real Life wrote: »

it didnt say he raped her, is just having sex with a mentally impaired person considered rape?

Considering he's in prison for it, one can only assume that the woman was not in a position to give consent and therefor it is rape.

TommyKnocker · 16-08-2012 05:52PM

Real Life wrote: »

it didnt say he raped her, is just having sex with a mentally impaired person considered rape?

YES if victim cannot give informed consent due to mental incapacitation, then of course it is rape!!!

Sex Offender in Arbour Hill goes to court over Kosher food & onions.

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