Give it a REST for heaven sake

Bad Panda · 14-08-2012 10:22AM

later12 wrote: »

Why does it piss you off?

I believe it to be somewhat false. The same people will forget about Katie Taylor in a month's time and a lot of the same people didn't bother their holes to watch the Irish men fighting.

Sauve wrote: »

And how does it make you feeeelll?

A tad miffed.

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

So unless we're long time fans we don't get to celebrate?

See response to Later12.

Tombi! · 14-08-2012 10:33AM

Bad Panda wrote: »

I believe it to be somewhat false. The same people will forget about Katie Taylor in a month's time and a lot of the same people didn't bother their holes to watch the Irish men fighting.

And a lot of people didn't bother to watch the men run when Sonia won, either.

What's your point?

saiint · 14-08-2012 10:42AM

Katie Taylor is British
oh i went their

*waits silently for all the serious people*

Bad Panda · 14-08-2012 10:44AM

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

And a lot of people didn't bother to watch the men run when Sonia won, either.

What's your point?

My point is, simply picking one person and supporting them because they're doing so well is called a bandwagon. It's false.

If people really cared about the sport, the athletes they wouldn't start waving flags when someone is doing well and and completely forget about them a few weeks later.

To me, it shows a total lack integrity.

kneemos · 14-08-2012 10:47AM

saiint wrote: »

Katie Taylor is British
oh i went their

*waits silently for all the serious people*

She looks a bit British now that you mention it.

saiint · 14-08-2012 10:51AM

Bad Panda wrote: »

My point is, simply picking one person and supporting them because they're doing so well is called a bandwagon. It's false.

If people really cared about the sport, the athletes they wouldn't start waving flags when someone is doing well and and completely forget about them a few weeks later.

To me, it shows a total lack integrity.

would you rather we didnt wave our false flags in the air at our own nations athletes who are doing well?
theirs a reason we have the best fans in the world

we may jump on the bandwagon but we do a damn good job

Tombi! · 14-08-2012 10:53AM

Bad Panda wrote: »

My point is, simply picking one person and supporting them because they're doing so well is called a bandwagon. It's false.

If people really cared about the sport, the athletes they wouldn't start waving flags when someone is doing well and and completely forget about them a few weeks later.

To me, it shows a total lack integrity.

Would you say the same about Sonia O' Sullivan?

That these years later I'm the only person who remembered her who doesn't follow that sport?

Plazaman · 14-08-2012 10:56AM

holystungun9 wrote: »

Flogging a dead horse you say? Enough so that we could get a gold medal in it? C'mon Ireland! Flog that horse!

Pray tell, would said horse that we're floggin test positive for a prohibited substance? :eek:

A case in hand about we like to hang on to things, every 2012 Oympics story regarding O'Connor included Athens 2004 somewhere in it. Let it go !!!!

JonathanAnon · 14-08-2012 11:50AM

Have to say I'm getting a bit of "Olympic celebration fatigue" as well.. I'm also getting sick of RTE trying to make everybody feel guilty for "forgetting" about Cian O'Connor.. saying things like "oh, and dont forget Cian O'Connor, he was brilliant and he got a medal too"..

RTE, I havent forgotten..

2004 Summer Olympics
Further information: Equestrian at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Individual jumping and Ireland at the 2004 Summer Olympics
Riding his horse, Waterford Crystal, he became an instant national hero, being the only Irish medalist that year. However, on 8 October 2004, it emerged that Waterford Crystal had tested positive for a prohibited substance. Components of the 'B' sample were stolen, as were documents from the Irish Equestrian Federation offices. However, the B blood sample also tested positive for prohibited, but not performance-enhancing, substances, which had been prescribed to the horse some time earlier.

The Federation Equestre Internationale (FEI) ruled that O'Connor must be stripped of his medal and he also received a three month ban from competition. On 10 June 2005, O'Connor's solicitor filed an official waiver of appeal in the FEI which made the Judicial Committee’s decision official. O'Connor lost his gold medal and the Irish Show Jumping Team was disqualified by the Olympic Board. The individual showjumping gold medal went to Brazilian Rodrigo Pessoa and the Irish team's seventh place was inherited by the Italians.

kneemos · 14-08-2012 11:54AM

You should be glad people are jumping on the bandwagon as the more support she gets the more valuable she becomes regards sponsers,or would you prefer she got no return for her hard work.

Ash.J.Williams · 14-08-2012 11:55AM

Bad Panda wrote: »

It's ridiculous now.

I fcuking hate bandwagons and even more so the people that hop aboard them.

Look, you're into boxing or you're not. Maybe you need a distraction from your life and that's fine, but the incessant flag waving from people who didn't give a fcuk about Katie Taylor a year ago just p!sses me off.

This is being bandied about all week....katie taylor has been one of our most popular sports people for years now

shopaholic01 · 14-08-2012 11:55AM

Fight_Night wrote: »

Do people really think we did that well? New Zealand got 13 medals, why can't we do as well as they do? We're a rich country, I think we should be aiming for higher than 5 medals anyway...

Well, we used to be considered a rich country, now we're debt rich. I don't follow sport but I do admire all the sports men/women who competed.

They trained in sub-standard conditions and their achievements required a lot of hard work and determination. They deserve recognition. If funding was increased it would encourage more people to compete at a serious level and would improve our medal tally.

Still, 5 medals is impressive for a small country with a poor emphasis on sport and lack of funding.

later12 · 14-08-2012 11:56AM

Bad Panda wrote: »

I believe it to be somewhat false. The same people will forget about Katie Taylor in a month's time and a lot of the same people didn't bother their holes to watch the Irish men fighting.

Yeah that was sort of implied, but I'm still unclear as to why bandwagoning would bother someone.

Is it that you think it detracts from the sense of joy felt by more kosher boxing enthusiasts

I'm not criticising, I'm just curious. It's like when you hear people angrily demand that they liked X band way before they were famous/ featured on an Apple advertisement. Who cares?

Leslie91 · 14-08-2012 12:20PM

I'm kinda with the OP.

It just goes to show how damaging the crash was to the Irish psyche. Bertie, Seanie and the boys have so much to answer for.

We go to the Olympics, perform brilliantly in the boxing and a couple of other disciplines (horses, sailing, walking) and the country/media is doing homecomings, celebrations, flag waving etc. Most of this is down to us being so down in the dumps for 4 years brought on by recession, corruption and greed.

We are a proud nation but we got rightly taken for a ride in those supposed boom yrs and when we are reminded how strong we can be (excuse pun but we defo boxed above our weight) we go bananas.

Now let's park this and move on. Start to get things right, expose corruption, stop the waste. Pay Billy Walsh what he deserves unlike some of the other so called high performance managers, high performance my arse.

Let this week be the end of it.

Carson10 · 14-08-2012 12:28PM

I think its great that Ireland done well at the olympic Games and was great that Katie got a good reception upon her return, but seriously all those d*cks on Facebook, posting up pics such as 'like and share if your proud of Katie Taylor'. They dont really give a damn and prob never watched a boxing match in their lives.

Alessandra · 14-08-2012 12:36PM

I dislike when the topic of a thread is not obvious from the title.

Jester252 · 14-08-2012 12:49PM

I just can't wait for the P&G ads to stop.

Fight_Night · 14-08-2012 12:51PM

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Well, we used to be considered a rich country, now we're debt rich. I don't follow sport but I do admire all the sports men/women who competed.

They trained in sub-standard conditions and their achievements required a lot of hard work and determination. They deserve recognition. If funding was increased it would encourage more people to compete at a serious level and would improve our medal tally.

Still, 5 medals is impressive for a small country with a poor emphasis on sport and lack of funding.

In the grand scheme of things, we're very rich, recession or no. And I think 5 medals(only one of them being gold) is quite mediocre. Maybe I just have high standards. At the same time though I wasn't expecting anything better...

poeticseraphim · 14-08-2012 12:57PM

fishy fishy wrote: »

every time the TV or radio comes on it is STILL going on and on and on and on about the Irish olympic medal winners.

For heaven sake - can we get over it now - its a bit of overkill.

dont' get me wrong, it's great for them and the country but come on, leave it alone now - its like flogging a dead horse at this stage.

Bore fest!!

You are the bore:p

If you don't want to be a part of it that's fine ...stop dictating how to you think others should behave socially.

I am still stoked...but i don't go to others hey you should be waving the tri- colour...

It is really a way of supporting a woman who was obviously enjoying the connection with her people and us too.

You don't have to get in on it if you don't want to....that's fine..i am still on a cloud..

I am sick of people talking about recessionand jumpig on that band wagon each to their own though.

14-08-2012 01:05PM

Jester252 wrote: »

I just can't wait for the P&G ads to stop.

Proud sponsors of mums.

I'm sorry... what does that even mean!?!?!

dttq · 14-08-2012 01:27PM

fishy fishy wrote: »

every time the TV or radio comes on it is STILL going on and on and on and on about the Irish olympic medal winners.

For heaven sake - can we get over it now - its a bit of overkill.

dont' get me wrong, it's great for them and the country but come on, leave it alone now - its like flogging a dead horse at this stage.

Bore fest!!

Couldn't agree more. Half the time, I think we are obsessing about it because of our performance in UEFA 2012.

goose2005 · 14-08-2012 01:32PM

Dean09 wrote: »

The Olympics only comes around every 4 years. For a small country we did quite well. I'm proud of all our medal winners and so are most of the rest of the country. There's no harm in celebrating their success at a time when the only other news on a daily basis is the same old depressing IMF, recession shíte.
The whole mood of the country changed to positive for two weeks and that's a good thing in my opinion.

That's debatable. Ireland did better than usual, but were still behind the likes of Kazakhstan, Georgia, Lithuania, Azerbaijan, Croatia, Czech R and NZ.

Capt'n Midnight · 14-08-2012 01:37PM

Look at how long the neighbours have been going on about that world cup. They'll be going on about this Olympics too.

holystungun9 · 14-08-2012 01:38PM

Plazaman wrote: »

Pray tell, would said horse that we're floggin test positive for a prohibited substance? :eek:

A case in hand about we like to hang on to things, every 2012 Oympics story regarding O'Connor included Athens 2004 somewhere in it. Let it go !!!!

The ketamine was for my own personal use your honour.

Brain Stroking · 14-08-2012 01:40PM

Fight_Night wrote: »

In the grand scheme of things, we're very rich, recession or no. And I think 5 medals(only one of them being gold) is quite mediocre. Maybe I just have high standards. At the same time though I wasn't expecting anything better...

I'd say it has more to do with not having an iota as to what you are talking about.

blaze1 · 14-08-2012 01:41PM

Ghandee wrote: »

OP come back to me when we're still taking about it in 46 years time, like a certain neighbour we have and their 'world cup glory'

Does no harm to celebrate something once in a while.

Dont worry, I'm sure the fantastic pundits on RTE will still be getting milage out of it.

Jimoslimos · 14-08-2012 01:48PM

summerskin wrote: »

Sonia O'Sullivan is a national hero for getting silver

In fairness to Sonia she won World championships and a load of other titles. Plus if people regard Michelle Smith's gold medals in Atlanta as tainted then the same must be said for Gabriella Szabo, the woman who beat Sonia to gold in Sydney.

O'Sullivan is/was our greatest female athlete - regardless of what Katie Taylor has done.

Ash.J.Williams · 14-08-2012 01:55PM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

In fairness to Sonia she won World championships and a load of other titles. Plus if people regard Michelle Smith's gold medals in Atlanta as tainted then the same must be said for Gabriella Szabo, the woman who beat Sonia to gold in Sydney.

O'Sullivan is/was our greatest female athlete - regardless of what Katie Taylor has done.

yop · 14-08-2012 01:58PM

Paralympics to start soon... so a least another month of Olympics been on TV and radio

fishy fishy · 14-08-2012 02:13PM

poeticseraphim wrote: »

You are the bore:p

If you don't want to be a part of it that's fine ...stop dictating how to you think others should behave socially.

I am still stoked...but i don't go to others hey you should be waving the tri- colour...

It is really a way of supporting a woman who was obviously enjoying the connection with her people and us too.

You don't have to get in on it if you don't want to....that's fine..i am still on a cloud..

I am sick of people talking about recessionand jumpig on that band wagon each to their own though.

listening to the same monotonous "news" for the past few days, on the hour, every hour, on every Irish station - now thats boring (well at least for most of us).

Give it a REST for heaven sake

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