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Father doesn't accept gay son

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  • #32
    staker
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    DaveShore66 wrote: »
    Id be disappointing if I had a son and he was gay. I know its the done thing nowadays to accept it and be cool about it but I have to admit it would sicken me. I'd like to think in time I might come to terms with it, but I do find it disgusting when I see two guys together.

    Not the best attempt, try again:pac:


  • #33
    ahnowbrowncow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,591 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    WhiteRoses wrote: »
    When you make a decision to have a child you are promising to love care for and accept whoever that child might turn out to be. Does my head in when parents forget this minor detail when their children come out as homosexual.

    No you don't, you seem to be a bit naive


  • #34
    Sierra 117
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Sierra 117


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Cut out the bickering or I'll give you all slaps to the bottom. :D

    Don't say it unless you mean it :p


  • #35
    WumBuster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Did we not have a thread a few weeks ago about Irish men being emotional statues?

    Have you ever hugged your Dad or had a serious conversation? I certainly haven't

    So he was told the news and continued on making the sandwiches and got general chit chat, what was the lad expecting?

    His Dad was never going to sit down and talk heart to heart. If it was other news, like the lad said he had depression he still would have gotten no reaction

    This is Ireland, strong and silent is right and talking about issues is a sign of weakness. Just the way

    And now the lad has blasted him on youtube

    I sort of agree with you. Im sure the lad is in an emotive state over this but to go onto a public domain basically bitching about his dad like that, who i assume gave him a happy, normal upbringing, is very bad form, imo, and certainly wont make his dad any more accepting of his situation.


  • #36
    SusieBlue
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    ahnowbrowncow wrote: »
    No you don't, you seem to be a bit naive

    I'm not naive at all, I do believe that if you choose to have a child you are promising to accept them for who they are, regardless of who they turn out to be. Is that not part of being a parent or am I totally missing the point here?


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  • #37
    paddyandy
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    I hope being Gay is'nt made compulsory as i would'nt like it at all ...jeeeeeez .


  • #38
    ejmaztec
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    Jay D wrote: »
    Didn't think it was a whine either, very matter of fact, good piece.

    I won't watch it because he might try telling me that the Spice Girls are brilliant, it's a conspiracy.


  • #39
    Millicent
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    paddyandy wrote: »
    I hope being Gay is'nt made compulsory as i would'nt like it at all ...jeeeeeez .

    I doubt the gays would be delighted about it either, Paddy, to be honest with you.


  • #40
    KKkitty
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    Inbox wrote: »
    All these gay lads are too sensitive a bit like women actually.
    That's really hurt my feelings. How could you say such a thing :pac: The gay men I know are fun loving and far from sensitive btw. If you're gay I think you have to develop a thick skin. It's not fair that in this day and age that gay and lesbians are still judged on their way of life but society is becoming more accepting I hope. As a previous poster said there's the issue of no grandchildren or maybe as regards their parents having a fear of how their child will be treated by others.


  • #41
    Colmustard
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    Its not easy for some fathers to accept, I think the son should understand that, instead he posted a clip on Youtube to try gather some celebrity.

    In most cases the parents just need time, I think this lad is a bot of a cutn.


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  • #42
    Red21
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    He sound like a bit of d!!khead to me, he's going on about being shy while posting a video on the net in which he tells of his teenage masturbation habits. We dont really know what his father is like, but we do know that this guy is doing his best to try and make him sound like a fool.
    It sounded to me like the oldman was uncomfortable talking about sex with his son, big deal, just talk to him about stuff.


  • #43
    efb
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    DaveShore66 wrote: »
    Id be disappointed if I had a son and he was gay. I know its the done thing nowadays to accept it and be cool about it but I have to admit it would sicken me. I'd like to think in time I might come to terms with it, but I do find it disgusting when I see two guys together.

    why do you watch????


  • #44
    Xterminator
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    Solair wrote: »
    The father needs to check that unconditional love bit of the t&cs attaching to fatherhood and get over himself! His son's sexual orientation is his son's business and not something he should be offended by!

    there are no such terms & conditions.

    also has no-one considered this from the fathers view point? assuming he was raised as a christian, he has been told that sodomy is a sin, and is disgusting to god from an early age.


    Leviticus 20:13

    If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.


    also the father was raised when it was also a crime to be homosexual, it has only been decriminalised since 93.

    So i dont find it overly strange that someone from that generation is of the opinion it is disgusting.

    i am not trying to open a debate on the rights or wrongs of being gay, simply pointing out its not unusual or hard to believe that the father holds the opinions he does.

    X


  • #45
    ahnowbrowncow
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    WhiteRoses wrote: »
    I'm not naive at all, I do believe that if you choose to have a child you are promising to accept them for who they are, regardless of who they turn out to be. Is that not part of being a parent or am I totally missing the point here?

    Well it'd be great if worked like that but of course not all parents choose to have children and not all parents are caring, open minded people.

    So yes I do think you're naive for believing that


  • #46
    efb
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    Xterminator wrote: »
    there are no such terms & conditions.

    also has no-one considered this from the fathers view point? assuming he was raised as a christian, he has been told that sodomy is a sin, and is disgusting to god from an early age.


    Leviticus 20:13

    If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.


    also the father was raised when it was also a crime to be homosexual, it has only been decriminalised since 93.

    So i dont find it overly strange that someone from that generation is of the opinion it is disgusting.

    i am not trying to open a debate on the rights or wrongs of being gay, simply pointing out its not unusual or hard to believe that the father holds the opinions he does.

    X

    Leviticus, a great read...


  • #47
    dd972
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    Double Income, no kids, no pmt, those gay lads know where their breads buttered ! :pac:


  • #48
    Seanchai
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    Reminds me of Mícheál Ó Conghaile's great short story, Athair, about a gay man coming out and how his father dealt (or didn't) with it.


  • #49
    SusieBlue
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    ahnowbrowncow wrote: »
    Well it'd be great if worked like that but of course not all parents choose to have children and not all parents are caring, open minded people.

    So yes I do think you're naive for believing that

    Unplanned pregnancies do not give the parent the right to forever hold a grudge against the child, and it doesn't justify a lack of compassion when their children doesn't turn out as you hope them to.
    If a parent thinks they can't be a caring, accepting care giver then maybe they aren't cut out to be parents.


  • #50
    ahnowbrowncow
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    WhiteRoses wrote: »
    Unplanned pregnancies do not give the parent the right to forever hold a grudge against the child, and it doesn't justify a lack of compassion when their children doesn't turn out as you hope them to.
    If a parent thinks they can't be a caring, accepting care giver then maybe they aren't cut out to be parents.

    I'm not arguing that. I'm saying there's plenty of people who are not cut out to be parents but still have kids.

    Poop happens.


  • #51
    TeddyTedson
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    I find it really strange to be honest when anyone around my own age (25) has issues with a persons sexuality.
    There's quite a lot who do all the same.
    As I have to say to some friends who get weirded out being around openly gay people is "in what way does it actually affect you."
    It doesn't.
    I could care less if someone is gay or not.


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  • #52
    randylonghorn
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    Fuinseog wrote: »
    its forbidden to say it but homosexuality is not natural no more than if I wanted a civil partnership with a sheep or goat.
    1) Why is it not "natural" for two people to love each other, or even to be sexually attracted to each other?

    2) How is that in any way similar to desiring a legal relationship with another species, and one which doesn't have the intellectual wherewithal to consent to any kind of a contract, let alone one with all this particular type of contract implies?
    Fuinseog wrote: »
    everyone is so tolerant towards gays these days. where were all these tolerant folks when gays were criminals?
    Probably not born, for the most part.


  • #53
    branbee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭branbee


    WhiteRoses wrote: »
    ahnowbrowncow wrote: »
    No you don't, you seem to be a bit naive

    I'm not naive at all, I do believe that if you choose to have a child you are promising to accept them for who they are, regardless of who they turn out to be. Is that not part of being a parent or am I totally missing the point here?

    i know that I, and many others would find it very difficult to feel the same way about my child if they turned out to be a murderer.
    Obviously Im not comparing the two in any way whatsoever, Im just showing how every parent has their limits to this 'unconditional love'. Unfortunately some parents class being gay as one of those limits. But you also hear of girls being disowned for teenage pregnancies or drug use etc. Its not right but it happens. For most parents it would take a lot to stop loving and accepting your child but I don't think its ever unconditional for any parent tbh.


  • #54
    pragmatic1
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    Fuinseog wrote: »
    its a big move to come out and declare ones gayness openly.
    it is a bitter disappointment for most parents-no grandchildren.


    its forbidden to say it but homosexuality is not natural no more than if I wanted a civil partnership with a sheep or goat.
    If it's not natural is it supernatural?


  • #55
    mackg
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    I think he will regret making the video if the father starts getting crap back about it. He said that he told him on Christmas 2010 but doesn't mention much about the relationship since then. If it's a matter of his dad just not talking about it he has to realise that some old men are just not able to deal with a conversation like that. If his dad had cut off contact with him after it I would say it's a different story.


  • #56
    MistyCheese
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    Fuinseog wrote: »
    no more than if I wanted a civil partnership with a sheep or goat.

    The mad thing is; there is a man who has married a goat. Although he was kinda forced to into marriage when he was caught having sex with said goat. Unfortunately the goat has since passed away following an incident with a plastic bag.

    I sometimes think how it must piss off gay couples who wish to marry, but are not legally allowed to, when they hear of people marrying a building, a video game character, a rollercoaster, a pillow, even the Berlin wall. A man and a man cannot marry, a woman and a woman cannot marry, but a woman can marry the Eiffel Tower and a man can marry a pillow?


  • #57
    Colmustard
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    Originally Posted by Fuinseog
    its forbidden to say it but homosexuality is not natural no more than if I wanted a civil partnership with a sheep or goat.

    What is not natural about it, its consenting, its sought and lusted. I assume you are straight, with a touch of beastuality which is not consenting:D

    So when you have sex do you only do it for natural reasons, do like fellatio giving cunnilingus, even kissing, tell me what is a natural sexual relationship.

    I know when I have sex it certainly isn't to have a baby.


  • #58
    1ZRed
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    Hang on, I actually watched this video and I can't see the big deal with it. Tbh, this guy is taking shots at his dad for no reason and it's unnecessary. This is not exactly a negative reaction at all, in fact his dad will get there with time. I was thinking his Dad had called him all sorts and thrown him out. As he said, his Dad is old fashioned but he'll get there in due time once he comes to terms with it.


    This guy didn't have anything bad, this guy did.


  • #59
    starbelgrade
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    Fuinseog wrote: »
    its a big move to come out and declare ones gayness openly.
    it is a bitter disappointment for most parents-no grandchildren.


    its forbidden to say it but homosexuality is not natural no more than if I wanted a civil partnership with a sheep or goat.

    Why do I get the feeling that you want to fuck a goat?


  • #60
    Kidchameleon
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    Four pages in and nobody has blamed the church yet? Atheists, you disappoint me! :mad:


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  • #61
    efb
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Four pages in and nobody has blamed the church yet? Atheists, you disappoint me! :mad:

    Its not really relevant anymore


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