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Father doesn't accept gay son

  • 13-08-2012 10:22PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭


    The following video is of an Irish lad that has come out gay. He goes into detail (towards the end of the clip) about his father not accepting it.



    Although I'm not gay, I have a lot of sympathy for those that are discriminated for being gay. I'm hopeful that these backward attitudes (demonstrated in the clip above) can be eradicated from society.

    But I fear that these attitudes are all too prevalent and there will never be peace for gays.

    The response from this man's father, and how he can be so dismissive, disgusts me. And I don't buy this ''ignorant culchie'' attitude. It's a disgrace and a huge problem in Ireland IMO.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Is he sure he's gay? He's not wearing pink or talking about how fabulous everything is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭RedRightHand


    Young fella has row with father, whines about it on YouTube. I'm not bothered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 DaveShore66


    Is he sure he's gay? He's not wearing pink or talking about how fabulous everything is.


    HA!! Hahahahaha!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Sierra 117


    Young fella has row with father, whines about it on YouTube. I'm not bothered.

    Bothered enough to post though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Young fella has row with father, whines about it on YouTube. I'm not bothered.

    It's hardly a whine. One of the most important people in a person's life can't deal with something that he can't change and is a part of who he is. That's desperately sad and hardly a "row" with the father.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    "Do you want more cheese in your bread?"

    Steady on lads ffs! :D


  • Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Didn't think it was a whine either, very matter of fact, good piece.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Corkbah


    Sierra 117 wrote: »
    Bothered enough to post though.

    why do people persist in stating the obvious .... in a vague attempt at trying to either be funny or ridicule the previous poster ..... does it make you feel better ? did you have some sort of smug smile on your face when you typed your response ?

    Seriously (and this isn't just directed at you) .... if someone comments saying who cares !! its a rhetorical statement/question ...they do not want an answer !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Corkbah wrote: »
    why do people persist in stating the obvious .... in a vague attempt at trying to either be funny or ridicule the previous poster ..... does it make you feel better ? did you have some sort of smug smile on your face when you typed your response ?

    Seriously (and this isn't just directed at you) .... if someone comments saying who cares !! its a rhetorical statement/question ...they do not want an answer !!

    But why do people bother to post on a thread to say they're not bothered? That's surely more baffling? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    I don't really like watching these videos because I don't exactly like to fill my head with this sort of thing when I'm in the process of coming out but I will say that when I came out to my sister recently, it went perfectly well, in fact it was kind of a funny story.
    I know my family will be fine about it in due time once I do it but I'm not sure about my Dad though. I don't exactly have any sort of relationship with him so I'm not sure how he'll take it.

    Thing is though, I've learned to not give a fuck about things if they don't work out and keep on going for myself and toughen up. I'm going to be the first gay guy (that anyone ever knew of) on either side of my family, ever, so I'll have to set the standard. I think I can do it though and take the heat for the younger generation in my family when it inevitably happens so to lessen the deal.

    Yeah this situation is shit for him and it shouldn't be happening but this mindset is still going strong in places, and although dying out, I think it will be around for a good while yet.
    Thankfully younger people are way more tolerant of this. I actually have a huge amount of respect for straight guys who are completely acceptant and see no problem with being gay. It was always my fear not to be one of the lads once I came out but thankfully that hasn't been the case so that's one good thing that's happened to me anyway.

    That's my stupid off topic take on this anyway


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    Im sure its very hard coming out but its also difficult to accept for those they are coming out to, particularily the father when its his son, so while his reaction wasnt good, in most cases the father will probably come around eventually and accept it.


  • Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Now he just has to come out of the mono-brow closet. That pluck job is fooling nobody.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,226 ✭✭✭Solair


    The father needs to check that unconditional love bit of the t&cs attaching to fatherhood and get over himself! His son's sexual orientation is his son's business and not something he should be offended by!

    He has an intelligent, presentable, healthy, articulate, self confident son who happens to be gay!

    He should be delighted!

    I don't mean to be harsh, but there's nothing to accept other than reality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    If only all parents were like mine! They were great when I came out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Solair wrote: »

    He has an intelligent, presentable, healthy, articulate, self confident son who happens to be gay!

    He should be delighted!

    Have you seen the rest of his youtube videos, if I was his dad i'd be moving house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    The following video is of an Irish lad that has come out gay. He goes into detail (towards the end of the clip) about his father not accepting it.



    Although I'm not gay, I have a lot of sympathy for those that are discriminated for being gay. I'm hopeful that these backward attitudes (demonstrated in the clip above) can be eradicated from society.

    But I fear that these attitudes are all too prevalent and there will never be peace for gays.

    The response from this man's father, and how he can be so dismissive, disgusts me. And I don't buy this ''ignorant culchie'' attitude. It's a disgrace and a huge problem in Ireland IMO.

    everyone is so tolerant towards gays these days. where were all these tolerant folks when gays were criminals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I've been coming out as straight for years and nobody accepts it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


    I wouldn't chose my father's acceptance of me over my own happiness in any way shape or form,for whatever reason.
    If that was my own father, I'd stay well back til he realises the error of his ways. Time is a great healer and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭Caiseoipe19


    The following video is of an Irish lad that has come out gay. He goes into detail (towards the end of the clip) about his father not accepting it.

    Although I'm not gay, I have a lot of sympathy for those that are discriminated for being gay. I'm hopeful that these backward attitudes (demonstrated in the clip above) can be eradicated from society.

    But I fear that these attitudes are all too prevalent and there will never be peace for gays.

    The response from this man's father, and how he can be so dismissive, disgusts me. And I don't buy this ''ignorant culchie'' attitude. It's a disgrace and a huge problem in Ireland IMO.

    Maybe the news just took him by surprise and was caught on the hop, so to speak? Hardly warrants being called disgraceful or disgusting to you. The fact that the son wasn't sure if he even know what being gay was and the fact that he thought the son might grow out of it shows that he was in fact quite ignorant in what being gay means...probably through no fault of his own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    I've been coming out as straight for years and nobody accepts it

    Try telling people you're a male with lesbian tendancies.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,226 ✭✭✭Solair


    I've been coming out as straight for years and nobody accepts it

    You're accepted! We'll send you a certificate in the post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    its a big move to come out and declare ones gayness openly.
    it is a bitter disappointment for most parents-no grandchildren.


    its forbidden to say it but homosexuality is not natural no more than if I wanted a civil partnership with a sheep or goat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Did we not have a thread a few weeks ago about Irish men being emotional statues?

    Have you ever hugged your Dad or had a serious conversation? I certainly haven't

    So he was told the news and continued on making the sandwiches and got general chit chat, what was the lad expecting?

    His Dad was never going to sit down and talk heart to heart. If it was other news, like the lad said he had depression he still would have gotten no reaction

    This is Ireland, strong and silent is right and talking about issues is a sign of weakness. Just the way

    And now the lad has blasted him on youtube


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭LoYL


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    The following video is of an Irish lad that has come out gay. He goes into detail (towards the end of the clip) about his father not accepting it.



    Although I'm not gay, I have a lot of sympathy for those that are discriminated for being gay. I'm hopeful that these backward attitudes (demonstrated in the clip above) can be eradicated from society.

    But I fear that these attitudes are all too prevalent and there will never be peace for gays.

    The response from this man's father, and how he can be so dismissive, disgusts me. And I don't buy this ''ignorant culchie'' attitude. It's a disgrace and a huge problem in Ireland IMO.

    everyone is so tolerant towards gays these days. where were all these tolerant folks when gays were criminals?
    At Mass. Aye.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Inbox


    All these gay lads are too sensitive a bit like women actually.

    Mod: Banned


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭LoYL


    I've been coming out as straight for years and nobody accepts it
    Get into the hot press.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    everyone is so tolerant towards gays these days. where were all these tolerant folks when gays were criminals?

    Eh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    When you make a decision to have a child you are promising to love care for and accept whoever that child might turn out to be. Does my head in when parents forget this minor detail when their children come out as homosexual.

    I understand some parents need time to get their heads round it but when some disowns their child over something as trivial as their sexuality it makes me angry.

    I know a guy who was disowned by his entire family when he came out. His mother writes his brother letters every week in prison, where he's doing time for beating the shít out of his ex partner in front of their kid and dealing heroin. Makes me sick that they can't accept their gay son but shower his thug of a brother with love and affection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 DaveShore66


    Id be disappointed if I had a son and he was gay. I know its the done thing nowadays to accept it and be cool about it but I have to admit it would sicken me. I'd like to think in time I might come to terms with it, but I do find it disgusting when I see two guys together.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Cut out the bickering or I'll give you all slaps to the bottom. :D

    Was this guy a boardsie then?


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