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Savage bar attack leaves journalist terrified.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Yep, she has been busy again - and it looks like she is reading here: http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4924/p1170748small.jpg

    She now says - she didn't name earlier the man for legal reasons.

    ...Then why ask about his identity?

    She says now that when she walked into the bar, she knew immediately who he was!
    She does on to speak about his appearance later in the Dublin courts.

    She don't explain why her reporting, her very earlier writing was so flowery and novel-like that it bordered on the verge of something like a bad fantasy love novel typed out in a fit of high extacy!

    She totally avoids the matter of just how bad her journalist writing was.
    ...And many have judged that alone to be dire and farcical.

    ...Well except for one final section:
    As for the people who guffawed at the dramatics of the piece - the most vocal were middle aged male journalists who sit behind their desk all day.

    None of them bothered to show up in court to tell McFeely how sorry they were his holidays had been disrupted by this newspaper. They must have been busy on Twitter.

    "dramatics of the piece" ?

    She's having a laugh!
    She simply decided to try throw in every flowery word possible and make herself look like a heroine!



    Miss Horan,
    A front page leading item on a Sunday (or any day) paper doesn't or shouldn't need "dramatics" to enhance it - but in the case of your previous reporting, yours did - because there was feck all else in it or to it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    It's the Indo, guys.

    It simply isn't worth analysis.

    Criticism, yes. But the last time we tried that here, there was a flurry of pinstriped letters and finger wagging-forcing b.ie into removing said threads. Even though 90% of what was posted therein was valid and correct, and most of the remaining 10% was simply worded poorly.

    What I don't get, is why so many people actually buy this rag of a morning, or with the sausages and rashers of a Sunday. Then again, IIRC, the SINDO's closest competitor is the absolutely dire Sunday World?

    The original Ireland on Sunday wasn't a bad paper-the closest to it now is probably the SBP. In either publication, the eejit that wrote this piece, or the bigger eejit that allowed it go to print wouldn't get a job driving the photocopier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    my favourite Niamh Horan article. it reminds me of the girl invited by a male suitor to his bedroom to look at his stamp collection only to discover he did not have a stamp collection....


    When a rapper invites you to party . . . he doesn't just mean bubbly and a boogie
    Sunday April 08 2007

    NIAMH HORAN
    I'LL let you in on a little secret; when a rapper says 'party', he doesn't exactly mean it in our innocent sense of the word.
    Believe me, take my advice, or you'll find out like I did; the hard way.

    It all started when a friend and I were invited back to join the godfathers of hip hop, P Diddy and Snoop Dogg , at their after-show party at plush Four Seasons Hotel last Sunday night.

    The superstar duo were in town for the final night of the European tour and I've been a serious fan of their music since my early teens.

    Naturally I was unhappy when we got stuck at the back of the concert arena.

    What to do? I decided to chance my arm to secure a better view of my heroes. I toddled up to security personnel at the pit, flashed a winning smile and asked if there was any way I could get in to the front-of-stage trench filled with screaming fans.

    "Not a hope," came the stern reply. But after laying on the charm a little bit more he pointed to a tall black guy wearing very snazzy pyjamas. This was the man, apparently, who could make my request come true.

    Seconds later I got the OK and for the next two and a half hours my friend and I were neck deep among the hard-core sweaty fans getting down to lyrics like "Get my drink on, and my smoke on, then go home with, something to poke on (whassup bitch?)".

    In hindsight it should have all been so clear. The lyrics told the story.

    So, as the concert was finishing, I asked my friend if she wanted to beat the crowd. But just as we were leaving the pit I spotted Snoop Dogg himself on the other side of the steel barrier, making his way from the stage to his dressing room.

    I grabbed his attention and next thing I know I was holding his hand and telling him how much I love him and his music. My fleeting rendezvous left me feeling all giddy and flustered and I was laughing at the sheer luck of it all when we spotted a group of girls being led in back stage.

    "What's going on?" I asked the security guard. "These girls are going to the after-show party," came the reply.

    My eyes lit up and thoughts of a Cristal cork-popping extravaganza start swirling in my head. Again I asked the security guard. Any chance? He shakes his head "no way".

    Not being one to be easily deterred I persisted until I saw another guy giving orders who looked to be fairly high up the chain of command.

    I put on my biggest puppy dog eyes, "Any chance of getting to that after-show party?" I smile. Bingo. He opened the steel barrier and waved my friend and I through.

    So we're shown through a set of red doors and, along with a small group of girls, escorted out to a waiting bus. Standing next to it was my saviour in the pyjamas, who later claimed to be Snoop Dogg's uncle, holding two giant bottles of champagne.

    So there we allwere, a group of giddy, giggling girls, unable to believe our luck, when we got a final word of warning in a deep south American drawl from our escort, "If you don't wanna party, don't get on the bus".

    My friend and I looked at each other, "Of course we want to party with P Diddy and his crew, what kind of question is that?"

    Once on the fully air-conditioned bus with blacked-out windows and tables, the excitement began to build up among the chosen girls. One by one we started applying our make-up in anticipation of the big bash.

    Once in the hotel, however, things quickly began to go downhill as hotel management stopped us in our tracks on the way to the room saying that, for legal reasons, non-residents weren't allowed up to the suites.

    So there we were, standing in the lobby with Snoop Dogg's uncle and some bottles of Cristal, trying to think of a way for him to get us up, when P Diddy strolled by. Don't get excited, I told myself, you'll be partying with him soon enough.

    Ah, but that's when the penny began to drop and the reason we were so 'privileged' to be invited to the exclusive get-together suddenly became clear.

    As a couple of the guys who were on stage with P Diddy strutted in, one of them pointed at me and said: "I want that one." I got all excited at what I thought was my ticket to the party and asked if my pal could come along too.

    "I got two," he shouted to another member of the entourage, across the lobby.

    Then he turned to me and asked straight out. "What are you going to do to me?"

    "Sorry?" came my reply. "What do you mean?"

    "Whisper in my ear what you gonna do to me, I want you to talk dirty," he demanded.

    Dumbfounded, I look over at my friend for help. "Tell him in Irish, Niamh," she offered, hoping I could get away with murmuring 'Conas ata tu' in his ear.

    "No, No," says the now increasingly frustrated musician. "Tell me in English."

    He looked at the shocked, somewhat embarrassed expression on my face, and continued sharply: "There are a lot of girls who wanna come to this party you know. Now are you going to get naked with me. Yes or no?"

    Still nothing but a blank expression on my face.

    "Fine," he snapped. And stormed off before coming back when he saw another of the entourage talking to me.

    "That sh*t ain't game," he shouted, pointing at me, obviously advising them not to bring me to the party because I wouldn't put out.

    The dude claiming to be Snoop Dogg's uncle came over to ask what I had done to make him angry. I told him my story, hoping to get some sympathy but I was quickly put in my place.

    "I told you, you don't want to party, don't get on the bus!"

    Indeed. Hindsight's a wonderful thing. When these boys say party - they don't mean jelly and ice cream.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    What I don't get, is why so many people actually buy this rag of a morning, or with the sausages and rashers of a Sunday. Then again, IIRC, the SINDO's closest competitor is the absolutely dire Sunday World?
    This plus a million. It seems the general opinion in AH on this paper and others is actually a minority in this country. That's the scary part.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    (You have no idea how thankful I am that AH's opinion is in the minority. AH is nowhere near a cross section of society, and everyone's here to have a whinge these days. RIP fun on AH I say.)

    As for Niamh Horan? Well, she claims to have been threatened with bottling. Wishing her physical harm, no matter how bad you may (justifiably) think her writing is, is scumbaggey.

    She's wronged you? Ask her to stop. She won't stop? Courts. Lawyers.

    Otherwise ignore the gombeens, get on with your life.

    Just like I have with AH (well, mostly)


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    (You have no idea how thankful I am that AH's opinion is in the minority. AH is nowhere near a cross section of society,
    I'd agree. Goes for Boards/Politics.ie/etc as a whole. Such outlets tend(or tended depending on viewpoint) to attract a different animal and thank god for such outlets.

    For me the Sindo is more indicative of a large chunk of wider society in oul Ireland in many ways. Bloated, embarrassingly vainglorious at times, lots of opinion masquerading as fact and transparently so, gossipy with a side order of bitchiness, rife with nepotism and vested interests and dumbed down while the odd spark of actual insight is rarely encouraged. Maybe the Sindo and it's ilk while holding a mirror up are also our society's guilty pleasure? Tat porn to pass the time and get riled up about. Messrs Myers and Harris the mother load open legged crotch shot for that stuff. Who knows? Me I've only bought it on one occasion in my life and have been given a free one at various times, so I'd personally let it die on the vine. Never gonna happen mind you.
    As for Niamh Horan? Well, she claims to have been threatened with bottling. Wishing her physical harm, no matter how bad you may (justifiably) think her writing is, is scumbaggey.
    Oh indeed it is. For me considering the source the "claim" part and the back story might deserve a more gimlet eye.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Biggins wrote: »
    Yep, she has been busy again - and it looks like she is reading here: http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4924/p1170748small.jpg

    She now says - she didn't name earlier the man for legal reasons.

    So admits knowing who he was but still asked if we kne who he was? Sweet Jesus, not naming him is one thing, but surely some idiot should have spotten the hole in the plot?

    Couldn't read the article becaue the photo is too small - did she actually mention boards or politics.ie or say where the abuse came from?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Couldn't read the article becaue the photo is too small - did she actually mention boards or politics.ie or say where the abuse came from?
    No doubt it'll be made plain as both her and her co "journalist" and flatmate IIRC are quick to point lawyers at dissenters, or at least the amateur hour threat of them. I like how Broadsheet.ie respond. :D Clearly they can afford to respond in such a manner as sadly the solicitors letter attack is an all too easy way for people to quell dissent in this country due to the very real risk of expensive court cases even if you win.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Melissa Bitter Pension


    Indeed. Hindsight's a wonderful thing. When these boys say party - they don't mean jelly and ice cream.

    That's so thick :confused: the whole thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    (You have no idea how thankful I am that AH's opinion is in the minority. AH is nowhere near a cross section of society, and everyone's here to have a whinge these days. RIP fun on AH I say.)

    As for Niamh Horan? Well, she claims to have been threatened with bottling. Wishing her physical harm, no matter how bad you may (justifiably) think her writing is, is scumbaggey.

    She's wronged you? Ask her to stop. She won't stop? Courts. Lawyers.

    Otherwise ignore the gombeens, get on with your life.

    Just like I have with AH (well, mostly)

    If I kept a camera in someone's face and taunted them, how long before they scream "get the **** away before I ****ing kill you" Or something along those lines.
    So she claims to have been threatened. In the same piece she claimed not to be able to identify a developer. And in the same piece where she said she just happened to be in the same random bar.

    Honestly she's as bad as paparazzi who taunt celebrities to try and get an angry photo. It's not journalism and she shouldn't be lauded for it.

    I don't like the guy she was photographing. I think he's scum. But she deliberately provoked him and is trying to claim she's the victim.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Wibbs wrote: »
    No doubt it'll be made plain as both her and her co "journalist" and flatmate IIRC are quick to point lawyers at dissenters, or at least the amateur hour threat of them. I like how Broadsheet.ie respond. :D Clearly they can afford to respond in such a manner as sadly the solicitors letter attack is an all too easy way for people to quell dissent in this country due to the very real risk of expensive court cases even if you win.

    Fair enough. I'm in a foreign jurisdiction, so I look froward to a letter. Or a camera shoved in my face...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    bluewolf wrote: »
    That's so thick :confused: the whole thing

    them are her words not mine.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    So admits knowing who he was but still asked if we kne who he was? Sweet Jesus, not naming him is one thing, but surely some idiot should have spotten the hole in the plot?
    Couldn't read the article becaue the photo is too small - did she actually mention boards or politics.ie or say where the abuse came from?

    She says social forums and Twitter on the internet. She is clever not to say exactly because god forbid someone might go to those exact locations and see the possible accurate criticisms she has gained.
    ...So she cleverly stayed away from naming them exactly.

    One other thing, NOW she says she did not name the man for legal reasons - but she knew him, as she says herself "immediately"...
    If thats the case and she did want to be open to a case of liable - why did she then have a photo of an 'unknown' and attach the title of "Notorious" to him - which in itself is casting aspurtions upon an exact photo supplied person without having to name him!

    A person can be publicly ridiculed and slandered without their very name attached - an attached image of a very said person is enough to establish a case for liability.
    This 'legal department reason' stinks to high heaven - as did her whole crappy original article.

    The whole farce is a case of journalism at its worst.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    Grayson wrote: »
    If I kept a camera in someone's face and taunted them, how long before they scream "get the **** away before I ****ing kill you" Or something along those lines.
    So she claims to have been threatened. In the same piece she claimed not to be able to identify a developer. And in the same piece where she said she just happened to be in the same random bar.

    Honestly she's as bad as paparazzi who taunt celebrities to try and get an angry photo. It's not journalism and she shouldn't be lauded for it.

    I don't like the guy she was photographing. I think he's scum. But she deliberately provoked him and is trying to claim she's the victim.

    there was a letter in yesterdays sindo praising her so she has fans somewhere.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Melissa Bitter Pension


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    them are her words not mine.

    yeah of course, forgot to change the quote tag


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Martyn1989


    I like how they appear to be unable to identify him yet got his weight spot on :rolleyes:

    Noway that man is 16 stone, hes at least 18 stone


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 449 ✭✭Pantsface




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    Savage bar attack

    Anyone else read it as Savage Bear attack?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    Loving the repeated use of the words 'abuse', 'victim' and 'misogynistic' in the above article. Ironically, people who define themselves so vehemently as victims are, from my experience, some of the most abusive people there are.

    Just because a lot of people dislike Niamh Horan, doesn't mean they hate all women. Most women aren't Niamh Horan. Thankfully.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ...Just because a lot of people dislike Niamh Horan, doesn't mean they hate all women. Most women aren't Niamh Horan. Thankfully.
    To be also fair to other females - most women (and men) could have written a better article than the piece of schite that was previously put on the front pages of the Sunday Indo!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    This is it: Whatever about the cicumstances and glossing over the fact that she started it, they simply can not defend the atrocious article that followed it. And THIS is the problem - the Sindo can not seem to understand (or do not want to understand) the fact how bad that the journalistic piece that thet ran.

    They would save so much face if they just came out and said, "we will continue down the path of investigative jouanlism and tracking down criminals, but we apologize for lack of professinoalism and for publishing such flowery crap. It won't happen again."

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭bonzos


    I refuse to buy a paper which employs Willie O Dea and Celia Larkin! The likes of these people and their friends have done enough damage to our country. They are only in the papers for their own interests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Q_Ball


    Pantsface wrote: »

    Why did I give that page my hit :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    She at it again - this time making the Quinns out as pure innocent and repeating Quinns claims that the "authorities" is bugging them and tailing them.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/quinns-united-on-visit-to-jail-3216974.html#disqus_thread

    They must be short of reporters at the Indo.
    All the stories the have on their webpage front page, four of them in bold show her name.
    Is someone at the Indo trying to improve her credentials by sticking her name under so many headlines in one day?

    http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3949/capturewai.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,736 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Biggins wrote: »
    She at it again - this time making the Quinns out as pure innocent and repeating Quinns claims that the "authorities" is bugging them and tailing them

    Seems like a normal mundane report on the ongoing Quinn saga, I wouldn't be a fan of the Quinns and their carry on and I don't see any support for them in that article. I think your dislike for the journalist is fogging your mind Biggins!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Seems like a normal mundane report on the ongoing Quinn saga, I wouldn't be a fan of the Quinns and their carry on and I don't see any support for them in that article. I think your dislike for the journalist is fogging your mind Biggins!

    Its a fair comment but again by journalistic standards, while bringing their side of the story, there is not much equal balance in it.
    She don't bother her backside to explain how they continuously broke the law, even in summary detail, just that they seemingly are just victims.


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