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Should James Holmes, Colorado Shooter, Get The Death Penalty??

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  • #272
    mongdesade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭mongdesade


    mathstalk wrote: »
    Ethics aside, I'd also like to point out that a round to the head would not the cheapest death. There are some German papers to be found online (albeit they are quite old) on more effient forms of death. I think you could relate quite well to them.

    Vielen dank für ihre kritik...üntermensch :D;)


  • #273
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,970 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    al28283 wrote: »
    McVeigh's only went so fast because he didn't want any appeals.

    He had appeals. He waived his right to more.


  • #274
    jugger0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    They should grate his skin off, roll him in salt and feed him to a bear with blunt teeth.


  • #275
    deisebhoy17
    Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭deisebhoy17


    Ive done some research on the guy before I commented. The day this thread was setup I would have said have him hung drawn and quartered. Its not as simple as that however, this guy is obviously not well. Having read what I have I really hope he is found insane because he has obviously suffered from a complete mental breakdown in the weeks leading up to this shooting. There was no history of violence of any sort, or even any agressive tendencies, bar the weeks leading up to the murder in the notebook which he gave to his psychiatrist. These details we dont know but will obviously come out in due course.

    This is such and tragic case, not just obviously for the people and families of those killed and injured, but also for the perpetrator who was a young man with enormous potential, someone who would have made a positive contributionto society had he not been struck with this deadly illness. The debate of how to deal with such people? I think will be a landmark case for generations to come


  • #276
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,094 ✭✭✭✭briany


    deisebhoy17 wrote: »
    Ive done some research on the guy before I commented. The day this thread was setup I would have said have him hung drawn and quartered. Its not as simple as that however, this guy is obviously not well. Having read what I have I really hope he is found insane because he has obviously suffered from a complete mental breakdown in the weeks leading up to this shooting. There was no history of violence of any sort, or even any agressive tendencies, bar the weeks leading up to the murder in the notebook which he gave to his psychiatrist. These details we dont know but will obviously come out in due course.

    This is such and tragic case, not just obviously for the people and families of those killed and injured, but also for the perpetrator who was a young man with enormous potential, someone who would have made a positive contributionto society had he not been struck with this deadly illness. The debate of how to deal with such people? I think will be a landmark case for generations to come

    Well supposing he had a "moment of madness", he'll have to live with that mistake but it's difficult to say how crazy he was when he meticulously planned a killing spree. To make that happen would require a sit down with some serious thought. Most serial killers almost by definition are mentally ill in displaying a desire to kill innocent people and they often display symptoms of psychopathy and sociopathy. These are things that they did not choose to be afflicted but they were executed or jailed for life anyway. I don't think that Holmes' case will be any different. Ultimately, the cry for justice will be too strong. The best he can hope for is a life in a padded room somewhere as a life amongst the general prison population would be a fairly short one I'd imagine.


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  • #277
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    jugger0 wrote: »
    They should grate his skin off, roll him in salt and feed him to a bear with blunt teeth.

    Without a fair trial.........the American way.


  • #278
    Dangerous Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Without a fair trial.........the American way.

    Trials are expensive.


  • #279
    Einhard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    No. Shooting 12 people dead in a cinema is wrong. Sitting someone down and pumping them full of lethal chemicals is wrong.


  • #280
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Dangerous Man wrote: »
    Trials are expensive.

    There is also the danger that trials can expose the truth, this guy will more than likely be bumped off on some OD or suicide before any trial materialises.


  • #281
    Me_Grapes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Me_Grapes


    Einhard wrote: »
    No. Shooting 12 people dead in a cinema is wrong. Sitting someone down and pumping them full of lethal chemicals is wrong.

    Depends who that 'someone' is.


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  • #282
    saiint
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭saiint


    keep him alive
    put him in prison til he dies
    let him be raped beaten tortured for the rest of his life
    screw killling him
    he wont feel anything
    have to punish the little prick


  • #283
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,924 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    saiint wrote: »
    keep him alive
    put him in prison til he dies
    let him be raped beaten tortured for the rest of his life
    screw killling him
    he wont feel anything
    have to punish the little prick

    A saint you most certainly ain't!


  • #284
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    o1s1n wrote: »
    A saint you most certainly ain't!

    Well, in his defence the username "Impotent fantasist" was already taken.


  • #285
    Einhard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    saiint wrote: »
    keep him alive
    put him in prison til he dies
    let him be raped beaten tortured for the rest of his life
    screw killling him
    he wont feel anything
    have to punish the little prick

    You like the idea of inflicting pain on other people, huh? Get your kicks from it eh? Sounds like it. Amazes me that some people demand that the best way to meet violence is with grotesque violence. They don't seem to realise that that makes them little better than the people they condemn. Also: it's a bit disturbing seeing the amount of people who seemingly relish the thought of extreme violence. Weirdos.


  • #286
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Megadeth Singer Dave Mustaine Alleges: "Obama Staging Shootings To Pass a Gun Law"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=741ZNYbgL2M


  • #287
    paky
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    tbh this kind of thing rarely happens in countries with stricter gun laws. if you change the laws, people are less likely to act out in this manner,

    the two worst massacres in the us were in colarado, where gun laws are ridiculously relaxed. unfortunately this is a price americans must pay to bare
    arms


  • #288
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    "A JUDGE has agreed to delay a court hearing for alleged Colorado gunman James Holmes after the 24-year-old was hospitalised, having reportedly rammed his head into a wall, a spokesman said."

    How convenient. After all that has gone on in this case, is it no surprise that Authorities are trying to silence him for good. The case will reveal a lot of inconsistancies in the shooting and to be honest, this is not unexpected. We haven't heard anything on Holmes for months and then this comes along.

    I was expecting something like this to happen.

    http://www.news.com.au/world/batman-massacre-suspect-taken-to-hospital-after-suicide-bid/story-fndir2ev-1226517346025


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