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Petty Inter-County Rivalry

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  • #32
    westendgirlie
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    OP, you are talking about Leitrim and Roscommon GAA teams aren't ya? :D:D:D


  • #33
    Dyr
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    Time's will move on, as populations shift. Dublin and Meath were once fierce rival's but now that Meath is virtually a suburb of the capital city thing's have eased off. Sure Dublin bus go out to Meath these days


  • #34
    davet82
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Time's will move on, as populations shift. Dublin and Meath were once fierce rival's but now that Meath is virtually a suburb of the capital city thing's have eased off. Sure Dublin bus go out to Meath these days

    Yup, Meath is Dublins bitch now...


  • #35
    Cú Giobach
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    JupiterKid wrote: »
    I was on the Shannon a few weeks back with some friends and in one small town that we pulled our boat into to stay the night, the locals in the local pub were pretty hostile to the people from the village on the other side of the river because they were GAA rivals and in another county.
    Meh, nothing compared to the War of the Whale that went on down here in Cork recently, brandishing chainsaws, blood and guts (and tails) everywhere. Families are now divided, farms are split, children are crying, oh the humanity.


  • #36
    JupiterKid
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    bijapos wrote: »
    How the hell can they be GAA rivals if they're in a different county, they would only meet in the All-Ireland Club Championship which I doubt happens very often.


    Anyway OP, I would put a bet that plenty of people in any of those villages have internal rows with each other over land, parking cars on "my property" etc. Likewise both villages would back each other up in face of a common enemy such as if they met each other in a bar abroad on holidays and got into a row with a bunch of English lads.

    Your first border is your own front door, you then adjust your borders and pick your allies-enemies according to your situation, at times the enemy of your enemy will become your friend.

    There's nowt so queer as folk.


    That's a very good point - but you know the saying "no man is an island." People should try to put aside their differences and work in harmony for the common good.


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  • #37
    Duckworth_Luas
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    bluecode wrote: »
    You're from Dublin like me, JupiterKid. Hence your puzzlement. Growing up in Dublin I saw myself as Irish first and foremost. Being a Dub came a faraway second if I even considered it. It wasn't until I ventured out beyond the Pale did I discover I'd mysteriously turned into Dub first and thus worthy of abuse or just slagging. Nearly everyone likes to slag off Dublin. But most Dub could honestly give a feck about their parochial attitudes.
    What an utter load of nonsense. You only have to read AH to see how parochial Dubliners are.:rolleyes:

    The rest is the same anti GAA crap you are spouting elsewhere on this forum.


  • #38
    JupiterKid
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    I'm not so sure that Dubs aren't parochial - just look at the Northside/Southside divide, the way people identify with their suburbs and districts, rivalries between adjacent suburbs and the whole social minefield of postcode snobbery - oh yes, we very much live in Dublin 6W, nowhere near Dublin 12 at all!":rolleyes:

    But I do think parochialism is more somewhat more entrenched in the country.


  • #39
    mathepac
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    "Ar scath a cheile a mhairimid", which is true as Ballina overshadows and majestically overlooks Killaloe. Ballina residents - faces to the sun, Killaloe residents - arses to the heat.


  • #40
    Snowie
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    Sauve wrote: »
    Us humans are territorial creatures.
    We want our patch to be the best damn patch there is, and will send our strongest men out to defend it with curved sticks of ash every weekend.
    :pac:


    Stand still i think i need to take a wee :pac:


  • #41
    Fuhrer
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    JupiterKid wrote: »
    I was on the Shannon a few weeks back with some friends and in one small town that we pulled our boat into to stay the night, the locals in the local pub were pretty hostile to the people from the village on the other side of the river because they were GAA rivals and in another county. I gathered that practically no-one from the village on the other side of the river drinks in the pubs in the neighbouring county and not that many even use the shops there.:(

    Surely in a country as small as Ireland this sort of inter-county rivalry is silly and indeed a bit pathetic?

    It feeds the parish pump mentality that is all too prevalent in politics in this country and when you consider that some of the largest farms in Australia, New Zealand and Argentina are the size of our smaller counties it makes a mockery of what it means to be proud of your region and county.


    Yes, this literally never happens in pretty much every other country in the world...


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  • #42
    Sauve
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    Bad Panda wrote: »
    Sauve wrote: »
    Us humans are idiotic creatures.

    FYP.

    Don't bother doing that again please.
    If you have something to say post it yourself instead of messing with mine. Thanks.


  • #43
    Sunnyisland
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    I always had a sneaky regard for people from Cork which improved greatly last week or so, when I was down there with the wife sitting in o'briens at the top of patrick street when this lovely lady went by on a bike just with the skin painted on her, nearly fell into me herbal tea.


  • #44
    Chucken
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    mathepac wrote: »
    "Ar scath a cheile a mhairimid", which is true as Ballina overshadows and majestically overlooks Killaloe. Ballina residents - faces to the sun, Killaloe residents - arses to the heat.

    Ah its nice for the Tipp crew to have a nice view all the same :p


  • #45
    Rasheed
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    The county rivalry is always worse on the Borders, it makes sense. Going to school, socialising together, there is going to be slagging.

    Anyway a bit of rivalry is no harm, it'll make a dull match interesting if nothing else.


  • #46
    sock puppet
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    JupiterKid wrote: »
    I was on the Shannon a few weeks back with some friends and in one small town that we pulled our boat into to stay the night, the locals in the local pub were pretty hostile to the people from the village on the other side of the river because they were GAA rivals and in another county. I gathered that practically no-one from the village on the other side of the river drinks in the pubs in the neighbouring county and not that many even use the shops there.:(

    In all seriousness that's not really true. There's only one secondary school between the two villages as well.


  • #47
    oldyouth
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    It's a bogger thing. I was born and reared in Dublin but have spent most of my life in Wexford. I just don't understand this parish mentality and never could. As far as I'm concerned, we're all Irish and all facing the same problems.

    Unfortunately, there are many, many people out there who have never broadened their horizons and they think that the world starts and ends at the bottom corner of the lower field on Murphy's farm. That's the way it has always been and that's the way it will stay. The driving force behind all of this mentality is the GAA. (IMO).

    BTW, I would be eternally grateful if somebody could explain the "Up" in the often shouted Up Wexford/Kerry/Down/Galway etc


  • #48
    Cú Giobach
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    mathepac wrote: »
    "Ar scath a cheile a mhairimid", which is true as Ballina overshadows and majestically overlooks Killaloe. Ballina residents - faces to the sun, Killaloe residents - arses to the heat.
    :D

    Killaloe: the ancient seat of Brian Ború in the land of music and unrivalled musicians, the wild and dramatic Atlantic seaboard, The Cliffs, the amazing and unique spectacle of The Burren, the quiet beauty of the stone walls, and a choice major destination for tourists both foreign and domestic.
    Ballina: the seat of ..ummm... Londis? A fishing tackle shop?? in the land of umm....Nenagh? Roscrea? Cowfields? ...ummm.....oh yea music, Sliabh na mBan the mildly annoying song though, not the beautiful haunting air/song of 1798.


  • #49
    Duckworth_Luas
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    oldyouth wrote: »
    It's a bogger thing. I was born and reared in Dublin
    Yeah, Dubliners don't involve themselves in petty rivalry! FFS!


  • #50
    oldyouth
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    Duckworth_Luas wrote: »
    Yeah, Dubliners don't involve themselves in petty rivalry! FFS!

    Not to the same extent, No


  • #51
    Duckworth_Luas
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    oldyouth wrote: »
    Not to the same extent, No
    Actually they're worse!

    The use of words like bogger and culchie to describe Irish people.

    The northside-southside nonsense.

    The fact that people will change and lie about their postal address to make it look as if they live in a more affluent area.

    Dubliners even demanded a new post code be invented, Dublin 6W, so they would have a different postal address to poorer areas.

    One of the biggest areas of opposition to the new post code system comes from D4, an area where people are demanding that their badge of affluence is maintained in the new system.

    Dublin is rife with such pettiness!


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  • #52
    oldyouth
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    In hindsight Duckworth, I can't really argue with those points, except to say that the address/postcode aspect refers to the snobbery of the people who live in those areas, who are not necessarily Dubs.


  • #53
    dirtyden
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    oldyouth wrote: »
    In hindsight Duckworth, I can't really argue with those points, except to say that the address/postcode aspect refers to the snobbery of the people who live in those areas, who are not necessarily Dubs.

    Just back down, you have embarrassed yourself enough.


  • #54
    c_man
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    bluecode wrote: »
    You're from Dublin like me, JupiterKid. Hence your puzzlement. Growing up in Dublin I saw myself as Irish first and foremost. Being a Dub came a faraway second if I even considered it. It wasn't until I ventured out beyond the Pale did I discover I'd mysteriously turned into Dub first and thus worthy of abuse or just slagging. Nearly everyone likes to slag off Dublin. But most Dub could honestly give a feck about their parochial attitudes.

    It isn't just counties, it's towns, parishes, villages even townlands. Partly it's the blame of the GAA because it thrives on rivalries. But mainly it's basically the remnants of tribalism which the GAA merely reflects. The reason we were such an easy conquest for the English.

    It's pathetic and it has held back the development of this country for years. Local politics dominate the minds of most politicians in Ireland. Any politician who puts the needs of the country first and foremost won't last long in the Dail.

    The only way this country can progress properly is for people to be Irish first and foremost.

    Yeah we should be more comsopolitian and outward looking like in Britain. Can you imagine someone from London getting a hard time/some slagging in another part of England on that basis? Luckily they don't have widespread infiltration of that nasty GAA which would no doubt seek to stir up hatred between all and sundry for some reason.


  • #55
    c_man
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    oldyouth wrote: »
    BTW, I would be eternally grateful if somebody could explain the "Up" in the often shouted Up Wexford/Kerry/Down/Galway etc

    How long have you been trying to figure it out? Serious.


  • #56
    carlmango11
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    Regarding the Bray/Dublin thing: I think it's not massively wrong or incorrect to call someone from Bray a Dubliner.

    Disregarding the Co. Dublin borders (which don't actually officially exist anymore if I'm not mistaken) the city of Dublin (to which the term Dubliner refers) has been growing for the last 1000 years. Towns have been long since swallowed by the conurbation.

    I'm sure some decades ago they were having the same squabble over Raheny-folk being called Dubs or more recently I'd imagine Swords-folk.

    I'm sure someone from Greenwich would be a bit confused if you told them they weren't a Londoner.


  • #57
    Cú Giobach
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    carlmango11 wrote: »
    Disregarding the Co. Dublin borders (which don't actually officially exist anymore if I'm not mistaken) the city of Dublin (to which the term Dubliner refers) has been growing for the last 1000 years..
    That would be odd surely, because then all the counties bordering Dublin would have to be the same and the counties bordering them ....etc etc...... Fook, Cork doesn't exist!!!!!! :eek:.
    Meath or Wickla has to end somewhere, know what I mean?


  • #58
    Sunnyisland
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    c_man wrote: »
    Yeah we should be more cosmopolitan and outward looking like in Britain. Can you imagine someone from London getting a hard time/some slagging in another part of England on that basis? Luckily they don't have widespread infiltration of that nasty GAA which would no doubt seek to stir up hatred between all and sundry for some reason.


    Your mistaken if you think this small county rivalry doesn't go on in England,also you think londoners don't get slagged or put down when there in the north of England or visa Vera :confused: What about the geordie people and sunderland and its certainly not all to do with soccer.This sort of carry on goes on right across Europe in all the towns and villages.


  • #59
    c_man
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    realies wrote: »
    Your mistaken if you think this small county rivalry doesn't go on in England,also you think londoners don't get slagged or put down when there in the north of England or visa Vera :confused: What about the geordie people and sunderland and its certainly not all to do with soccer.This sort of carry on goes on right across Europe in all the towns and villages.

    *ahem*


  • #60
    Sunnyisland
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    c_man wrote: »
    *ahem*


    You coffed,excuse you.


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  • #61
    Sunnyisland
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    c_man wrote: »
    *ahem*
    realies wrote: »
    You coffed,excuse you.



    :o:oRight bit slow sometimes :o:o


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