Petty Inter-County Rivalry

JupiterKid · 09-08-2012 02:44AM #1

I was on the Shannon a few weeks back with some friends and in one small town that we pulled our boat into to stay the night, the locals in the local pub were pretty hostile to the people from the village on the other side of the river because they were GAA rivals and in another county. I gathered that practically no-one from the village on the other side of the river drinks in the pubs in the neighbouring county and not that many even use the shops there.:(

Surely in a country as small as Ireland this sort of inter-county rivalry is silly and indeed a bit pathetic?

It feeds the parish pump mentality that is all too prevalent in politics in this country and when you consider that some of the largest farms in Australia, New Zealand and Argentina are the size of our smaller counties it makes a mockery of what it means to be proud of your region and county.

Xavi6 · 09-08-2012 02:48AM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Surely in a country as small as Ireland this sort of inter-county rivalry is silly and indeed a bit pathetic?

You are correct of course but for some places it's all they have to keep themselves ticking over.

HalloweenJack · 09-08-2012 02:48AM

I'm from Bray, it pisses me off when people tell me I'm a Dub.

IrishAm · 09-08-2012 02:48AM

Are you new to Ireland? We like to take the p*ss out of each other over the smallest of things. A small minority of fools go to far, but Its mostly banter.

We are all Irish at the end of the day.

Where To · 09-08-2012 02:49AM

I hate memes but anyways;

'Thinly veiled I have a boat thread'

IrishAm · 09-08-2012 02:52AM

Where To wrote: »

I hate memes but anyways;

'Thinly veiled I have a boat thread'

Companies like Emerald Star rent boats out to holidaymakers. A ten minute instruction and away you float.

Pretty fucking deadly if you get the weather.

JupiterKid · 09-08-2012 02:54AM

Where To wrote: »

I hate memes but anyways;

'Thinly veiled I have a boat thread'

Actually it was my friend's boat - OP duly edited.:D

I'm 100% Irish and proud to be and I love a bit of slagging but this was bitterness and small mindedness I'm talking about. It really is pathetic to see.:rolleyes:

09-08-2012 02:55AM

It's all about the buttons

grenache · 09-08-2012 03:41AM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

I'm from Bray, it pisses me off when people tell me I'm a Dub.

But all Bray folk speak like Dubs! You are practically a suburb of the city now.

HalloweenJack · 09-08-2012 03:46AM

grenache wrote: »

But all Bray folk speak like Dubs! You are practically a suburb of the city now.

Regrettably.

Wompa1 · 09-08-2012 03:46AM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Actually it was my friend's boat - OP duly edited.:D

I'm 100% Irish and proud to be and I love a bit of slagging but this was bitterness and small mindedness I'm talking about. It really is pathetic to see.:rolleyes:

1 percenter!!

Dangerous Man · 09-08-2012 04:21AM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

I'm from Bray, it pisses me off when people tell me I'm a Dub.

I'm from Dublin. I'm a Dub. You're from Bray - so, from Wicklow. To me, that's easy to understand.

mathepac · 09-08-2012 04:34AM

People from Ballina live in Tipp, the crowd from Killaloe don't. People from Killaloe say the Lakeside Hotel is in Killaloe (it isn't) and that the Gooser's atin' emporium is also in Killaloe (it isn't) and so on. Ballina is good, it's in Tipp, Killaloe isn't and it's not.

Chucken · 09-08-2012 01:13PM

mathepac wrote: »

People from Ballina live in Tipp, the crowd from Killaloe don't. People from Killaloe say the Lakeside Hotel is in Killaloe (it isn't) and that the Gooser's atin' emporium is also in Killaloe (it isn't) and so on. Ballina is good, it's in Tipp, Killaloe isn't and it's not.

No they dont!

Killaloe is the postal address,on account of the fact theres no post office in Ballina

Sauve · 09-08-2012 01:16PM

Us humans are territorial creatures.
We want our patch to be the best damn patch there is, and will send our strongest men out to defend it with curved sticks of ash every weekend.
:pac:

davet82 · 09-08-2012 01:19PM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

I'm from Bray, it pisses me off when people tell me I'm a Dub.

Being a Dub this pisses me off too, as if Bray people are as cool as us :cool:

guinnessdrinker · 09-08-2012 01:20PM

This thread reminds me of the ongoing Springfield/Shelbyville rivalry.

bijapos · 09-08-2012 01:26PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

I was on the Shannon a few weeks back with some friends and in one small town that we pulled our boat into to stay the night, the locals in the local pub were pretty hostile to the people from the village on the other side of the river because they were GAA rivals and in another county. I gathered that practically no-one from the village on the other side of the river drinks in the pubs in the neighbouring county and not that many even use the shops there.:(

How the hell can they be GAA rivals if they're in a different county, they would only meet in the All-Ireland Club Championship which I doubt happens very often.

Anyway OP, I would put a bet that plenty of people in any of those villages have internal rows with each other over land, parking cars on "my property" etc. Likewise both villages would back each other up in face of a common enemy such as if they met each other in a bar abroad on holidays and got into a row with a bunch of English lads.

Your first border is your own front door, you then adjust your borders and pick your allies-enemies according to your situation, at times the enemy of your enemy will become your friend.

There's nowt so queer as folk.

Jester252 · 09-08-2012 01:29PM

I hate people fron Cork just coz

davet82 · 09-08-2012 01:32PM

Jester252 wrote: »

I hate people fron Cork just coz

i know, there's just too many to list

Bad Panda · 09-08-2012 01:34PM

Sauve wrote: »

Us humans are idiotic creatures.

FYP.

castletownman · 09-08-2012 01:35PM

One's got to remember that some petty rivalries are borne out of one town stealing another town's lemon tree and the bitterness, no pun intended, lasting for generations.

HalloweenJack · 09-08-2012 01:39PM

davet82 wrote: »

Being a Dub this pisses me off too, as if Bray people are as cool as us :cool:

I'll take it!

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 09-08-2012 01:40PM

Funnily enough the only crowd I dislike are the bunch of wan*ers who populate my own parish.

bluecode · 09-08-2012 01:47PM

You're from Dublin like me, JupiterKid. Hence your puzzlement. Growing up in Dublin I saw myself as Irish first and foremost. Being a Dub came a faraway second if I even considered it. It wasn't until I ventured out beyond the Pale did I discover I'd mysteriously turned into Dub first and thus worthy of abuse or just slagging. Nearly everyone likes to slag off Dublin. But most Dub could honestly give a feck about their parochial attitudes.

It isn't just counties, it's towns, parishes, villages even townlands. Partly it's the blame of the GAA because it thrives on rivalries. But mainly it's basically the remnants of tribalism which the GAA merely reflects. The reason we were such an easy conquest for the English.

It's pathetic and it has held back the development of this country for years. Local politics dominate the minds of most politicians in Ireland. Any politician who puts the needs of the country first and foremost won't last long in the Dail.

The only way this country can progress properly is for people to be Irish first and foremost.

Thundercats Ho · 09-08-2012 01:47PM

guinnessdrinker wrote: »

This thread reminds me of the ongoing Springfield/Shelbyville rivalry.

And with that, a mighty cheer went up from the heroes of Shelbyville. They had banished the awful lemon tree forever, because it was haunted. Now let's all celebrate with a cool glass of turnip juice

admiralofthefleet · 09-08-2012 01:53PM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

I'm from Bray, it pisses me off when people tell me I'm a Dub.

parts of bray are in dublin. my brother lives in one such part

davet82 · 09-08-2012 02:01PM

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

parts of bray are in dublin. my brother lives in one such part

we call them Braylins, outcasts that are not one nor the other in my book :rolleyes:

bijapos · 09-08-2012 02:01PM

bluecode wrote: »

It isn't just counties, it's towns, parishes, villages even townlands. Partly it's the blame of the GAA because it thrives on rivalries. But mainly it's basically the remnants of tribalism which the GAA merely reflects. The reason we were such an easy conquest for the English.

GAA is one of many outlets of rivalry and the GAA are not to blame for the fact that irish people like those of every other nation have rivalries. If the GAA weren't there it would be something else.

We fight amongst each other about such things as politics, english soccer teams, how to deal with the health service, do we build a gallows or a monument to Bertie etc etc etc. The GAA is another reason to pick a row with someone and identify with a bunch of people who will back you up, safety in numbers is a basic human instinct.

admiralofthefleet · 09-08-2012 02:05PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Actually it was my friend's boat - OP duly edited.:D

I'm 100% Irish and proud to be and I love a bit of slagging but this was bitterness and small mindedness I'm talking about. It really is pathetic to see.:rolleyes:

i was working in a pub in arklow briefly about 2 years ago. an oul fella said to me one day 'im from rathdrum and your the first dubliner ive spoken too in about 40 years, if i had known you were from dublin i wouldnt have spoken to you. i hate yis with a passion'
i said 'enjoy your pint, pulled by a proud dub'

Father Damo · 09-08-2012 02:14PM

Rugged Island is a leper colony!

Petty Inter-County Rivalry

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