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Nixers

  • 07-08-2012 08:48PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭


    Do you believe that there is something wrong with doing the odd day's work for someone when you're on the dole or that even if you're not on the dole that you should declare every small job you get a few bob for to the government to have USC & other tax taken off it?

    I'd say its actually keeping a lot of people going now. There'd be a lot of people in trouble if they couldn't top up their dole a small bit or be able to get someone local to do a job for 20e when a legitimate tradesman would be wanting a 50e call-out fee because thats what he charged during the tiger.

    Is there something wrong with doing nixers 161 votes

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I believe their is nothing wrong with a nixer.

    Of course, certain people "detest" others doing even the smallest of nixers. Moral dogooding assholes IMO. Same people would do nixers themselves but thats 'different and acceptable' when they do...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,675 ✭✭✭TheBody


    No problem with it provided the nixer isn't a 39 hour a week nixer while claiming the dole as well!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    I believe it is ok to a certain degree as in not actually running a business off it if you get me small bits I think is ok and sure most that do them are for friends or family and don't even get much for doing the job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    Nothing wrong with it, most liekly you'll be spending the cash anyways so keeping it in the economy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    I'm all for it. It can be very hard to get money together for interview suits, travel etc. needed for jobseeking when you're on the lower end of the dole. I was on €40 a week after I graduated. I worked in a pub when I could get a few hours until I got something suiting my education. If I didn't have that I would have been an absolute hermit for 6 or 7 months.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    I'm unemployed and get f all from
    Dole so I make money with nixers as do most lads on the dole in a trade
    I don't think anything is wrong with it
    Your doing the work and gettin cash in hand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    I'm unemployed and get f all from
    Dole so I make money with nixers as do most lads on the dole in a trade
    I don't think anything is wrong with it
    Your doing the work and gettin cash in hand


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    I'm unemployed and get f all from
    Dole so I make money with nixers as do most lads on the dole in a trade
    I don't think anything is wrong with it
    Your doing the work and gettin cash in hand

    no wonder this countrys fcuked with this mindset......:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    no wonder this countrys fcuked with this mindset......:rolleyes:

    Have you ever stepped off your high horse to think that this lad might not be able to get work and that this is not a personal choice his?

    I'm not saying what he is doing is right but it might be a case of - he has no other choice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    It's theft.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    I'm unemployed and get f all from
    Dole so I make money with nixers as do most lads on the dole in a trade
    I don't think anything is wrong with it
    Your doing the work and gettin cash in hand

    no wonder this countrys fcuked with this mindset......:rolleyes:
    Really hope the day doesn't come for you when your let go because of the way things are and that you have No bills or child like myself and can sit on your arse on the dole like some
    Me on other hand have bills and a child and was let go and I have a trade aswell and the dole is not givin me enuff to pay bills and support my child either so yes I will do nixers and live the way I am until a job does pop up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Where To wrote: »
    It's theft.

    From who? Explain this one please. Who is he stealing from? The Government? How?

    You can't just say "it's theft" and leave it at that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    You put Atari jaguar as a poll option, how funny, lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Really hope the day doesn't come for you when your let go because of the way things are and that you have No bills or child like myself and can sit on your arse on the dole like some
    Me on other hand have bills and a child and was let go and I have a trade aswell and the dole is not givin me enuff to pay bills and support my child either so yes I will do nixers and live the way I am until a job does pop up

    If you've so many bills to pay then maybe a VW Polo or a Micra would be more fitting than a sports car, a Scooby certainly wouldn't be a priority for most people in your circumstances.
    Thinkin bout gettin altezza or a scooby wagon during the summer
    I like the altezza the shape and comfort of them and quite quick but I'm lookin online and the ones for sale are lads sayin 220bhp but that's when they fresh from factory they lost loads of them horses Over the years so what brake are they now days
    I like the scooby wagons wrx loads of room for the dog and bringing campin gear huntin gear etc they fast and solid but man the juice disappears in them and can be hot cars for gettin stroked
    What would yas suggest honestly
    I hoping for either around July
    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    From who? Explain this one please. Who is he stealing from? The Government? How?

    You can't just say "it's theft" and leave it at that.
    He's stealing from the legitimate tradesman who can't compete with his fly by night rates.
    He's stealing from the government by fraudulently claiming welfare.
    And he's stealing from you and me whose taxes finance said welfare.

    It's theft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭eth0


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    If you've so many bills to pay then maybe a VW Polo or a Micra would be more fitting than a sports car, a Scooby certainly wouldn't be a priority for most people in your circumstances.

    Nobody wants the high displacement petrol engines these days so they might be cheaper than the ones you mentioned if you get one thats a bit ould


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Where To wrote: »
    He's stealing from the legitimate tradesman who can't compete with his fly by night rates.
    He's stealing from the government by fraudulently claiming welfare.
    And he's stealing from you and me whose taxes finance said welfare.

    It's theft.

    Well he ain't stealing from me. I don't even live in that cesspit of a country.

    How is he stealing from the Government? He was let go, he applied for the dole, got it, it doesn't supply enough for him to live off (not surprised) - so he took it upon himself to get some extra cash by doing what he knows.

    I seriously doubt that if he is offering "fly by night" rates for his services that he's taking an abundance of work from those still in employment to even warrant making a notable difference.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Well he ain't stealing from me. I don't even live in that cesspit of a country.

    in that case, shut up ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭leggit


    Well he ain't stealing from me. I don't even live in that cesspit of a country.

    How is he stealing from the Government? He was let go, he applied for the dole, got it, it doesn't supply enough for him to live off (not surprised) - so he took it upon himself to get some extra cash by doing what he knows.

    I seriously doubt that if he is offering "fly by night" rates for his services that he's taking an abundance of work from those still in employment to even warrant making a notable difference.

    You answered your own question???

    Never going to change anyway, once seen a group of 4 lads changing from their work gear out the back of a van to go sign on before! Very funny country we live in!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭skywalker_208


    Would I be right in saying that the system doesnt allow for people to genuinely take short term work like nixers and declare this to the dole office/ or sign off for few short days and then get signed back on again without major hassle?

    So I can understand how people do nixers to be honest...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    in that case, shut up ;)

    I can still voice my opinion. Don't be bitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Started a job at that time and got ahead of myself thinkin that I'd keep it but the place closed down
    Not my fault
    Kinda makes me sick that you went into me previous threads tho
    FYI mate I do have a micra aswell


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    If you've so many bills to pay then maybe a VW Polo or a Micra would be more fitting than a sports car, a Scooby certainly wouldn't be a priority for most people in your circumstances.

    totally busted......yes, he's broke, and needs the cash..........TOTAL STROKER....and the ediots here getting sucked in by him and condoning him........:rolleyes:

    lol...........@dodderangler......are you feeling violated that someone looked up your previous posts.......lol.....how dumbass.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    leggit wrote: »
    You answered your own question???

    I don't understand how that is construed as stealing?

    If you have one taxed job that pays you €400 a week and you decided to DJ on the side for a bit more, are you stealing from your job?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Where To wrote: »
    From who? Explain this one please. Who is he stealing from? The Government? How?

    You can't just say "it's theft" and leave it at that.
    He's stealing from the legitimate tradesman who can't compete with his fly by night rates.
    He's stealing from the government by fraudulently claiming welfare.
    And he's stealing from you and me whose taxes finance said welfare.

    It's theft.
    Excuse me mate but I paid taxes in all jobs I worked in so Ive no problem takin it back but difference is that I'm not going out and purposely stayin on the dole and not ever lookin for a job
    I am looking for a job but until then I will take the dole( as little as it is) and make more money aswell
    Atb


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    No issue if its an odd job here and there for mates. But if they are actually working decent hours while claiming the dole then that aint on. As another poster said its someone claiming dole while depriving someone who is employed and paying tax of work. That aint good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭leggit


    I don't understand how that is construed as stealing?

    If you have one taxed job that pays you €400 a week and you decided to DJ on the side for a bit more, are you stealing from your job?

    OK then, let's not call it "theft", but what he does is still against the law and he'd be in a fair bit of financial bother if he ever got caught.

    Funny how people do it cos they "need" the money but they'd be unbelievably screwed if they were ever caught. Unfortunately, seldom are they found out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭GerM


    Anyone who claims that they would live purely on the dole and refuse the option of doing some cash in hand work with a family is talking through their rear. You have a family, they come first and you do what you need to do to give them the best opportunities and life you can.

    Is it morally correct in the eyes of the state? No. It it exactly what the vast majority of people would do? Absolutely. A large percentage of people who condemn it have never experienced unemployment or do not have a family of their own. I don't condone it, far from it, but spare me from those who preach that doing 15 hours cash in hand work a week is reprehensible behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    leggit wrote: »
    Funny how people do it cos they "need" the money but they'd be unbelievably screwed if they were ever caught. Unfortunately, seldom are they found out

    Some people are screwed either way. They claim the dole and the dole only, not enough. They decide to just do nixers till something comes along, not enough. Claim the dole and do nixers in the mean time, enough - but with a high risk rate.

    It's lose/lose for a few.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    So you think that people can just live off f all money and survive?
    When before losing job they had everything and no problems but deserve to be punished altogether for being let go through no fault of their own?
    Majority of yas are talkin through your holes


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