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Sinn Fein in a huff over new signs

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  • #32
    Defiler Of The Coffin
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    MagicSean wrote: »
    It's practical and necessary signage. If a person chooses to get upset over them then they are feeding the trolls so to speak.

    It isn't necessary at all, people got on fine without these signs for decades, why the sudden need now?


  • #33
    Varied
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    FanadMan wrote: »
    Well, seeing as when I've told some people that I'm from County Donegal they seem to think that I'm from the North :rolleyes:

    Lmao. How dare they put you in the "lesser Irish" category.:rolleyes:


  • #34
    hooradiation
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    They'd be better off replacing them with signs that read "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"


  • #35
    Lyaiera
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    Personally, I'm offended by the "Welcome to Kerry" signs you see when leaving Cork. Do you really want to be reminded that you have to leave the proud Marxist Republic of Cork?


  • #36
    Defiler Of The Coffin
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    If they want to be Iriah and live in Ireland they should move out of th eUnited Kingdom.Otherwise, relax, enjoy life and stop worrying about bloody geography.

    Good lord, you'd swear the Good Friday Agreement never happened at all. Such a condescending attitude towards the Irish in the North. They're every bit as Irish as people from the republic, no question.


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  • #37
    MagicSean
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    Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »
    It isn't necessary at all, people got on fine without these signs for decades, why the sudden need now?

    I explained that need in the first part of the post you quoted. Just because something wasn't done before it doesn't mean it wasn't needed.


  • #38
    SaoriseBiker
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    the_syco wrote: »
    Do they accept euro in their shops?
    Pedantic point but under EU law it is legal currency even in the streling area and has to be accepted.


  • #39
    Chuck Stone
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    If they want to be Iriah and live in Ireland they should move out of th eUnited Kingdom.Otherwise, relax, enjoy life and stop worrying about bloody geography.

    It's a pity shining lights like you weren't around in the late 60's with such sage advice and great plans and then we wouldn't have had the troubles.

    Your inane rambling only shows how clueless you are about the issue.


  • #40
    Defiler Of The Coffin
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    MagicSean wrote: »
    I explained that need in the first part of the post you quoted. Just because something wasn't done before it doesn't mean it wasn't needed.

    No you didn't.
    MagicSean wrote: »
    But it isn't just about the different speed limits. There's many differences. Currency, immigration policy, road traffic legislation, criminal legislation. While you may know which of the six counties are in Northern Ireland there are many that don't. A look at the comment section on the journal will show that. And these are irish people. What chance has a foreign national got of knowing they are entering a different country?

    Them signs don't say anything about what you've mentioned do they?


  • #41
    cocoshovel
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    This is absolutely ridiculous. I cant beleive some people are against signs notifying people that they are entering a different country. Its the same all over the world, and its the same even with Irish counties. Anybody who has a problem with this clearly has the mindset of a primary school child and is in complete denial. How pathetic.
    Religion should have nothing to do with this but of course you have assholes who bring it in regardless.


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  • #42
    Varied
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    cocoshovel wrote: »
    This is absolutely ridiculous. I cant beleive some people are against signs notifying people that they are entering a different country. Its the same all over the world, and its the same even with Irish counties. Anybody who has a problem with this clearly has the mindset of a primary school child and is in complete denial. How pathetic.
    Religion should have nothing to do with this but of course you have assholes who bring it in regardless.

    You also have assholes claiming its all about religion, but such is life.


  • #43
    SaoriseBiker
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    MagicSean wrote: »
    http://www.thejournal.ie/welcome-to-northern-ireland-sign-548794-Aug2012/

    Personally I don't see the problem with informing people they are entering a different country with different laws and currency.
    I once went out with a girl from Blacklion so I know Blacklion and Belcoo very well :) You'd almost think it was just the one town/village with a wee stream in the middle, I think people are missing the elephant in the room by ignoring the stupidity of having an international border stuck there at all as well as other villages and towns around the border.


  • #44
    Guy:Incognito
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    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    It's a pity shining lights like you weren't around in the late 60's with such sage advice and great plans and then we wouldn't have had the troubles.

    Your inane rambling only shows how clueless you are about the issue.

    Do they or do they not live int he United Kingdom?

    Unless the UK decide in the next while they want shot of the economic black hole that is the north, thats not going to change, Killing people or living your life filled with hate and trying to one up the other side is not going change it.

    People need to just move on and live their lives.

    But sure you just go ahead and fling an insult or two if it makes you feel better.


  • #45
    SaoriseBiker
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    cocoshovel wrote: »
    This is absolutely ridiculous. I cant beleive some people are against signs notifying people that they are entering a different country. Its the same all over the world, and its the same even with Irish counties. Anybody who has a problem with this clearly has the mindset of a primary school child and is in complete denial. How pathetic.
    Religion should have nothing to do with this but of course you have assholes who bring it in regardless.
    If signs were saying Kerry and Cork were "part of the UK", I think most of the people of Kerry and Cork mightn't be too happy either :) Maybe to please people like yourself Dun Laoghaire should be changed back to Kingstown and Cobh to Queenstown ?


  • #46
    Guy:Incognito
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    Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

    Them signs don't say anything about what you've mentioned do they?

    The signs going from Germany to Switzerland dont list every difference between the coundtries either but knowing that you've just changed countries allows you to use any knowledge you already have and combine it with the ability to fnd out new information if you want.
    God forbid we let peopel know where they are.


  • #47
    Where To
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    The only problem with those signs is they aren't 100ft high and flashing neon.
    The poor tourists up here haven't a notion what country they are in half the time.


  • #48
    SaoriseBiker
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Do they or do they not live int he United Kingdom?
    Occupied counties.
    Unless the UK decide in the next while they want shot of the economic black hole that is the north, thats not going to change, Killing people or living your life filled with hate and trying to one up the other side is not going change it.

    People need to just move on and live their lives.

    But sure you just go ahead and fling an insult or two if it makes you feel better.
    I'd think you'd find the UK did it's fair share of killing people or living their live's filled with hate - and on both sides of the border for that matter.


  • #49
    Nodin
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    MagicSean wrote: »
    I explained that need in the first part of the post you quoted. Just because something wasn't done before it doesn't mean it wasn't needed.

    And just because its being done now doesn't mean its required either.


  • #50
    Sunnyisland
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    As the six counties in Ireland is still ::disputed:: territory,And with many many people against the border being there in the first place, the easiest and more peaceful way of doing this was to just welcome you into the named county you where entering,But that be to easy up here.


  • #51
    Guy:Incognito
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    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    If signs were saying Kerry and Cork were "part of the UK", I think most of the people of Kerry and Cork mightn't be too happy either :) Maybe to please people like yourself Dun Laoghaire should be changed back to Kingstown and Cobh to Queenstown ?

    Kerry and Cork are not part of the UK though so those signs would be wrong . Northern Ireland is Northern Ireland whether people are Catholic or Protestant, whatever their political outlook and regardless or what they want to believe.

    Anyway, it's not like the signs say "Welcome to Northern Ireland, part of the UK, you may now bow to the Queen"


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  • #52
    SaoriseBiker
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Kerry and Cork are not part of the UK though so those signs would be wrong . Northern Ireland is Northern Ireland whether people are Catholic or Protestant, whatever their political outlook and regardless or what they want to believe.

    Anyway, it's not like the signs say "Welcome to Northern Ireland, part of the UK, you may now bow to the Queen"
    In geographic terms, it's not Northern Ireland, it's the North East of Ireland. Regardless, their still the occupied counites ;)


  • #53
    cocoshovel
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    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    If signs were saying Kerry and Cork were "part of the UK", I think most of the people of Kerry and Cork mightn't be too happy either :) Maybe to please people like yourself Dun Laoghaire should be changed back to Kingstown and Cobh to Queenstown ?

    What? Please dont dance around my point and make up a bunch of crap that isnt the case. The signs say "Welcome to Northern Ireland".
    Maybe to please people like yourself Dun Laoghaire should be changed back to Kingstown and Cobh to Queenstown ?

    Once again, what in the name of christ are you on about? Why would that please me, why would changing the names of Irish towns to old English names please me? I love how you can just subtly accuse me of being someone like that. That has nothing to do with what I was saying. People like you make me sick.


  • #54
    MaxSteele
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    And here comes the shinner bashing.

    Some of these signs have already been removed by locals anyway. Either the rest of the signs shall follow suit or have "Northern" covered with graffiti as do many of the Londonderry signs have already.

    Unless some stubborn unionist representatives and local council workers keep wasting money resurrecting the same signs ..... I can't see many of them staying up on the border anyway.


  • #55
    Guy:Incognito
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    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    Occupied counties..
    Whether you like it or not, its in the UK, uses Sterling, has the PSNI and doesnt use the laws of the South.
    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    I'd think you'd find the UK did it's fair share of killing people or living their live's filled with hate - and on both sides of the border for that matter.

    Who said anything about either side? I didnt single out one.


  • #56
    Chuck Stone
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    MagicSean wrote: »
    It's practical and necessary signage.

    Wrong.

    If it were necessary it would have been put up long before now.
    If a person chooses to get upset over them then they are feeding the trolls so to speak

    Shifting the blame to those being antagonised is it?

    This is lamp post pissing by Trolls or it's someone who has absolutely no concept of the sensitivities of the people living on the border.

    Regardless, I can't see them lasting to long. They'll probably be cut down with blow-torches in a pretty short time.


  • #57
    Ghandee
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    My passport says I'm Irish.

    Being born in the north automatically entitles you to self determination.

    If your born in any of the six counties, but see yourself as Irish, so be it, that's your right. Equally, if you see yourself as being British, you also have that right too.

    Sinn Fein as a nationalist, 32 county political party have the right to complain at signs displaying a name they do not recognise (northern Ireland)

    Being born in the north gives them that right to choose their nationality (SF party members involved in dispute), i don't think you have much of a right to decide on their behalf what name they choose to give the place they call home.

    (unless of course you're from the north too, and consider it British? Your post hasn't made that part clear)


  • #58
    Varied
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    cocoshovel wrote: »
    What? Please dont dance around my point and make up a bunch of crap that isnt the case. The signs say "Welcome to Northern Ireland".



    Once again, what in the name of christ are you on about? Why would that please me, why would changing the names of Irish towns to old English names please me? I love how you can just subtly accuse me of being someone like that. That has nothing to do with what I was saying. People like you make me sick.

    Ive said it once already, it's not all about religion, go educate yourself instead of reading the tabloids.


  • #59
    the_syco
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    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    Pedantic point but under EU law it is legal currency even in the streling area and has to be accepted.
    Excellent; must remember that :D


  • #60
    Guy:Incognito
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    Ghandee wrote: »

    Being born in the north gives them that right to choose their nationality,

    It doesnt give them the right to decide the piece of land they live on isnt part of the united Kingdom though. Until it changes, its the United Kingdom.


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  • #61
    cocoshovel
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    Varied wrote: »
    Ive said it once already, it's not all about religion, go educate yourself instead of reading the tabloids.

    I completely agree and I never said it was. I dont know where you think I did say that. Read my first comment in this thread again.


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