Sick troll gets his comeuppance on Facebook!

D1stant · 07-08-2012 02:49PM

minidazzler wrote: »

The person reporting them is a cnut. No other word for them, they are jokes, simple as that. In bad taste, yes, probably not for facebook, but it being their own facebook they can post what they like if their friends don't like it, delete them?

The person emailing everyone is a complete and utter numpty.

What planet are you on?

Are you really defending someone that makes 'jokes' about dead children and raping babies?

So as long as I call it a joke I can be a Nazi or Al-Qaeda? I can incite hatred, offend at will and be anonymous and untouchable?

---> Moral Compass

Bad Panda · 07-08-2012 02:49PM

28064212 wrote: »

For people supporting the person who emailed the university etc, would you also support this situation:

Person X sends a letter in to the Opinions page of the Irish Times and it gets published. It's on a controversial topic, e.g. abortion, or prostitution, and X states their position. Person Y reads the Irish Times and takes great offence. Y emails X's employers/university/family/friends, drawing a huge amount of attention to X in their personal life, even though most people would never have even seen the paper without Y's direct intervention. X's position causes rifts in a number of his relationships

Is what Y did ok?

Hardly the same!!

minidazzler · 07-08-2012 02:49PM

Sykk wrote: »

Nah.. It's aimed at one sick person in specific. The guy targeted said he wanted to "Stick his c##k in a dead child" and rape another child of different ethnicity..

Where's the punch line? I for one hope he gets arrested, fired and kicked out of his University for being such a waste of air.

I'm sure actual paedophiles go around using their own names to say such things. I'm sure this is his way of seducing some children.

What exactly should he get arrested and fired and expelled for? Being a troll? Having a sense of humour that isn't in line with yours?

Ash.J.Williams · 07-08-2012 02:49PM

davet82 wrote: »

If you wouldnt get up in front of a room full of people you may know or dont know and tell dead baby jokes, then dont do it on facebook... simple really.

in fairness frankie boyle has said worse!

07-08-2012 02:51PM

Bad Panda wrote: »

Hardly the same!!

Why? How is it any different? Because having a controversial opinion is different to a controversial joke? It's not

AnonoBoy · 07-08-2012 02:51PM

Voltaire said it best, "I abhor what you say but I will defend to my death your right to say it."

davet82 · 07-08-2012 02:52PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

There's lots of people who would happily do that though. Should they not be allowed to?

some people get well paid to do it too! (comedians)

its just advice, that facebook or the internet can bite you in the ass!

so what i mean is be prepared to say things on facebook that you would in public, if they do well... they are braver than me!

NegativeCreep · 07-08-2012 02:53PM

I really just cannot wrap my head around the fact that people continue to read these jokes even though it supposedly disgusts them so.
They all come out with this crap "how would you feel if you lost a baby" and "you're going to rot in hell." People who have lost babies will not be reading the jokes and if they do, it's their fault for reading it. I wouldn't mind if at least one of the people could spell or form a coherent sentence. half the people don't even give a s**t, they're just looking for something to complain about! Sheepism of the most horrid and annoying kind.

As for this one sending the photo around he should get a right kick in the ass. I'd love to know if he ever made a racist joke or an equally offensive joke in his own home. Because if he has, not only is he illiterate, he'd be a hypocrite then too.

Tombi! · 07-08-2012 02:53PM

I feel sorry for the man. The man being the one who got his info sent to college and so on.

I mean seriously, how f**king much of a complete cúnt must you be to say "hey, instead of litereally being able to block it and defriend the people who post it, I'll just bitch and moan and try to punish the maker"?

Here's the worst part: Facebook said multiple times the page is fine so instead of being mature and saying "I disagree with your website and I'll leave" he said "I'll throw a hissy fit and tattle you on".

And before anyone jumps down my throat, black humour is still humour. Regardless of if he posted it for a reaction of "ew, that's sick" or "that's horrible! *snide laughter*", it doesn't matter.

If you have a f**king problem with the page, ignore it. If you have a problem with people posting on your wall, block them or just change the settings.

I don't get what the problem is. You cannot, under any logical means say "well if he won't say it in a public place, then he shouldn't post it on Facebook". Facebook is completely different from real life for one. And secondly, IT IS AN OPTIONAL FÚCKING WEBSITE.
If you don't like what's being posted and Facebook allows it, then stop bloody using it.

minidazzler · 07-08-2012 02:55PM

D1stant wrote: »

What planet are you on?

Are you really defending someone that makes 'jokes' about dead children and raping babies?

So as long as I call it a joke I can be a Nazi or Al-Qaeda? I can incite hatred, offend at will and be anonymous and untouchable?

---> Moral Compass

What planet are you on that you want to restrict freedom of expression because someone might be offended?

It might offend a lot of people, true, but I'll ALWAYS respect someones right to express themselves even if I'm personally disgusted by what they say. As long as it is not actual incitement to hatred or harm.

He is not inciting hatred, except of himself, he is simply telling very bad jokes in very bad taste. He is not actually raping children.

You are choosing to be personally offended by something that was not in any way directed at you. He should be allowed to express himself in any way he wants.

And just before anyone makes a comparison, Boards is not like facebook, we have mods to keep the spirit of the forums and there is no true free expression for very good reasons. Though there are places on boards where the jokes this guy told would be considered funny. You need to get off high horses are realise that it's not directed at you, so you should simply ignore.

twinQuins · 07-08-2012 02:56PM

I may not like those kinds of jokes but once he's not harming anyone it's not the business of his employer/the police/whatever what he's doing in his free time.

The only sick one here is the dick who's trying to ruin an innocent person's life.

ejmaztec · 07-08-2012 02:56PM

Ghandee wrote: »

I have seen the page 'dead baby jokes' on facebook popping up on my news feed from time to time, with people requesting likes to get it shut down.

However, one person seems to have taken it to a new level.

This person has taken a screen shot of one individuals very abusive and disgusting references to babys, and is emailing the persons university, workplace, and his local poilce station with the comments he made.

Has the person reporting them gone too far?

Judge for yourself.

http://www.facebook.com/GetDeadBabyJokesPageBanned/posts/433027750082749

The people commenting on that page should also be prosecuted for massacring the English language.:o

amtw · 07-08-2012 02:57PM

I wonder if the subject matter was about Black people or Jewish people or Irish people (though we were the target of low level wit of certain English comedians for years) would the reactions of others be different.

Is it that babies can't stand up to defend themselves that it's ok to make them the butt of these horrible jokes?

Or maybe because the jokes are about innocent cuddly babies, everyone knows that they are jokes and cannot be taken in anyway seriously. Whereasif they were about other groups, those hearing them might think that jokes about people of other races, cultures, genders etc could be just covering up the posters own prejudices.

The jokes are in bad taste, what's worse they are not funny. I bet when he tells these to his mates (I'm assuming it's a male) the mates all laugh awkwardly and wish the teller would just shut up.

Sorry long winded hope it makes sense.

Tombi! · 07-08-2012 02:57PM

minidazzler wrote: »

And just before anyone makes a comparison, Boards is not like facebook, we have mods to keep the spirit of the forums and there is no true free expression for very good reasons. .

They're exactly alike, actually. Facebook's version of mods said multiple times the page is fine. That's what I don't get.

I mean if suddenly Boards decided "hey, posting videos of people getting tortured is okay in X forum", I'd stay out of that forum.

Ghandee · 07-08-2012 02:57PM

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I feel sorry for the man. The man being the one who got his info sent to college and so on.

I mean seriously, how f**king much of a complete cúnt must you be to say "hey, instead of litereally being able to block it and defriend the people who post it, I'll just bitch and moan and try to punish the maker"?

Here's the worst part: Facebook said multiple times the page is fine so instead of being mature and saying "I disagree with your website and I'll leave" he said "I'll throw a hissy fit and tattle you on".

And before anyone jumps down my throat, black humour is still humour. Regardless of if he posted it for a reaction of "ew, that's sick" or "that's horrible! *snide laughter*", it doesn't matter.

If you have a f**king problem with the page, ignore it. If you have a problem with people posting on your wall, block them or just change the settings.

I don't get what the problem is. You cannot, under any logical means say "well if he won't say it in a public place, then he shouldn't post it on Facebook". Facebook is completely different from real life for one. And secondly, IT IS AN OPTIONAL FÚCKING WEBSITE.
If you don't like what's being posted and Facebook allows it, then stop bloody using it.

I think when you threaten to sexually abuse a child it crosses the line (well my line) from what is humour, and what is just downright vile.

I get your point that people should ignore the page though.

Just I dont personally see the 'joke' in the sexual molestation threats.

Caliden · 07-08-2012 02:58PM

D1stant wrote: »

What planet are you on?

Are you really defending someone that makes 'jokes' about dead children and raping babies?

So as long as I call it a joke I can be a Nazi or Al-Qaeda? I can incite hatred, offend at will and be anonymous and untouchable?

---> Moral Compass

You don't watch much comedy do you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LneOzu6Ytio

A comedian called Godfrey confronts a heckler with regards 'sensitive' topics.

'You don't control comedy'.
'If you don't like it, leave!'.

Tombi! · 07-08-2012 02:59PM

amtw wrote: »

I wonder if the subject matter was about Black people or Jewish people or Irish people (though we were the target of low level wit of certain English comedians for years) would the reactions of others be different.

Rules and standards. That'd be hate speech and would get the page removed.

Ghandee wrote: »

I think when you threaten to sexually abuse a child it crosses the line (well my line) from what is humour, and what is just downright vile.

I get your point that people should ignore the page though.

Just I dont personally see the 'joke' in the sexual molestation threats.

Shock value, I guess. Same reason why I laughed when I played Mortal Kombat and I turned into a polar bear and mauled someone to death.

Bad Panda · 07-08-2012 02:59PM

28064212 wrote: »

Why? How is it any different? Because having a controversial opinion is different to a controversial joke? It's not

Yes it is. - this isn't about whether or not controversial jokes are OK in a public forum. It's about dedicating a page to controversial jokes aimed at inciting a reaction on a topic that's bound to affect many, many people.

Edit: The troll isn't giving a controversial opinion and citing reasons as to why he holds such an opinion is he?

Seriously, if you can't see how this is different to what you described....

Tombi! · 07-08-2012 03:00PM

Bad Panda wrote: »

Yes it is. - this isn't about whether or not controversial jokes are OK in a public forum. It's about dedicating a page to controversial jokes aimed at inciting a reaction on a topic that's bound to affect many, many people.

And again, if you don't like it, leave. It's okay by Facebook's rules.

Imagine if I go to a comedy club and I see "racist jokes about blacks and Asians tonight!" and I go in and I get offended... that's my own fault.

LoYL · 07-08-2012 03:00PM

Casillas wrote: »

If only we could stifle the speech of everyone that offends, it would be a silent world.

Felt like being a bit poetic with my reply

I certainly wouldn't agree with stifling free speech. But if someone has posted publicly in FB then drawing attention to it is just amplifying what the person said. If people reach a conclusion about the person as a result then that too is fair enough.

Mr Benevolent · 07-08-2012 03:01PM

Ghandee wrote: »

I have seen the page 'dead baby jokes' on facebook popping up on my news feed from time to time, with people requesting likes to get it shut down.

However, one person seems to have taken it to a new level.

This person has taken a screen shot of one individuals very abusive and disgusting references to babys, and is emailing the persons university, workplace, and his local poilce station with the comments he made.

Has the person reporting them gone too far?

Dead baby jokes are not illegal.

keithb93 · 07-08-2012 03:02PM

he's hardly a troll if Its a dead baby jokes page that he is commenting on. He'd be a troll if it was say an anti abortion page or something.

Tombi! · 07-08-2012 03:03PM

keithb93 wrote: »

he's hardly a troll if Its a dead baby jokes page that he is commenting on. He'd be a troll if it was say an anti abortion page or something.

I thought the thing was that the troll was the maker of the page and he made to page to piss people off, which would be trolling :P

07-08-2012 03:03PM

Bad Panda wrote: »

Yes it is. - this isn't about whether or not controversial jokes are OK in a public forum. It's about dedicating a page to controversial jokes aimed at inciting a reaction on a topic that's bound to affect many, many people.

How is it aimed at inciting a reaction? The page is called "Dead Baby Jokes". Are people really shocked to find out what's on it?

And do you really think people don't write letters to the newspaper to incite a reaction?

Bad Panda wrote: »

Edit: The troll isn't giving a controversial opinion and citing reasons as to why he holds such an opinion is he?

He's saying something controversial. Regardless of whether it's an opinion or a joke, it's irrelevant

Ghandee · 07-08-2012 03:03PM

Confab wrote: »

Dead baby jokes are not illegal.

I know that.

And?

Jesus Shaves · 07-08-2012 03:03PM

Bastard got me kicked out of uni and fired from KFC over a few jokes.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 07-08-2012 03:04PM

good thing he wasn't telling dead baby jokes and drawing pictures of mohammed, then he'd be a **** of the highest order

4zn76tysfajdxp · 07-08-2012 03:05PM

minidazzler wrote: »

What planet are you on that you want to restrict freedom of expression because someone might be offended?

A D1stant planet.

Bad Panda · 07-08-2012 03:06PM

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

And again, if you don't like it, leave. It's okay by Facebook's rules.

Imagine if I go to a comedy club and I see "racist jokes about blacks and Asians tonight!" and I go in and I get offended... that's my own fault.

I'm not offended by it personally..at all. However, I fail to see why someone would set up an entire page dedicated to this - it's more strange than finding a dead baby joke hilarious.

Tombi! · 07-08-2012 03:06PM

I also like this from one of the pages against it:

I would just like to remind everyone that we are trying to get dead baby jokes banned not be racest to each other !

Yes, that's not a typo. It's now called "racest" and a space does come after an exclamation mark.

Bad Panda wrote: »

I'm not offended by it personally..at all. However, I fail to see why someone would set up an entire page dedicated to this - it's more strange than finding a dead baby joke hilarious.

Because someone people would like it.

Sick troll gets his comeuppance on Facebook!

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