Morrissey compares London 2012 Olympics to Nazi Germany

Well in a sense all of the Olympic Games since 1936 have been influenced by Nazi Germany: both the opening ceremony and the torch relay were effectively invented by them for propaganda purposes.

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Morrisey was relevant for 15 minutes 30 years ago.

Irrelevant ever since.

Just wants to get some attention.

Are you serious?

Morrissey has been an incredibly influential songwriter for countless Bands and Musicians.

He may be a self-involved pr*ck, but he's a incredibly talented self-involved pr*ck.

I agree with the OP's opinion. He makes valid, thought provoking points at times, but suffers from a tendency to veer off into over the top rants.

People who speak there mind and dont agree and follow the norm always tend to get bashed for it.

He likes to voice certain views he has and i doubt he gives two ****s what anyone else thinks about it.

Fair play if ya ask me i wish more people would say what they really felt and grow a spine instead of wasting there lifes just smiling and nodding.

Plus its always ''****e talk'' when you dont agree with someone.......

In saying that there is a distinct lack of dissent about the games but he must accept that it's better to be jingoistic through winning at sport than making war on a tin pot dictatorship like Argentina had all those years ago. Anyone who could consider themselves as an astute observer of British life wouldn't have failed to notice the same pattern from years ago, eg things are bad, let's have a Royal wedding or a Jubilee and spend lot's of the taxpayer's cash and get them to love us for it. It's quite an old formula, bread and games.

Skid wrote: »

Morrissey is an insufferable self righteous windbag at the best of times, but he has excelled himself here.

It is an insult to history to compare a festival of sport to the Nazis.

bb1234567 wrote: »

After reading the article I still dont have the slightest clue as to how the london olympics and nazi germany are in any way similar

"Before again urging the UK to "WAKE UP", the musician added: "It could almost have been written with the British public in mind, because although the spirit of 1939 Germany now pervades throughout media-brand Britain, the 2013 grotesque inevitability of Lord and Lady Beckham (with Sir Jamie Horrible close at heel) is, believe me, a fate worse than life."

I know reading hurtssss, but now and again, it can be useful

hmm, i have a feeling i better spell it out. He didn't compare the olympics to nazi germany. he did mention that jingoism was evident, though that's not a real surprise and he did mention the media glossing over the UK's growing wealth disparity and hammering of the poor, (under the banner of patriotism, 'the scoundrels refuge') but well, that aint a surprise either. Still, at least there's a few calling it as it is.

Winston Payne wrote: »

I'm sorry, but this just isn't a reasonable or accurate thing to say. There are better ways to address notions of inequality and societal dysfunction than reaching for the Nazis.

perhaps, it's certainly dramatic. but he didnt equate the Olympics to the Nazi party.

certainly the media in the Uk has edged closer to the US model, but there are still good strong voices like the Guardian and the Uk's Independent out there, (and indeed channel 4 Dispatches, Horizon, BBC's Panorama) amongst a number of smaller press.


Still, i do feel the breeze of Thatcherism blowing across the airwaves lately. which is disappointing.

Winston Payne wrote: »

He chose that year quite deliberately. He was equivocating the current press standing with the likes of Der Sturmer, for example. It's a ludicrous thing to say.

yes, that's exactly what he was saying. about the press. and yes, a bit ott. but not without elements of truth. have you watched the NOTW inquiry? ouch. and that recent docu about the jockey Brain Fallon etc. nasty, nasty people.

Allie Muscular Cornflakes wrote: »

You'd think he'd have mentioned 1936 instead. What with the Berlin Olympics being held that year and all.

I don't think Morrisey's too concerned with complete historical accuracy or relevance. Or making sense.

Winston Payne wrote: »

I don't think Morrisey's too concerned with complete historical accuracy or relevance. Or making sense.

Ah. i see.

Winston Payne wrote: »

The best approach is to what, go crackers? Go Godwin?

So therefore what he's saying can be completely dismissed? that it?