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M8 motorway (general thread)

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  • #1002
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    munchkin_utd wrote: »
    christ thats a terror that place.
    Especially compared to the proper NRA stops or the midway complex at portlaoise which have massive amounts of parking.

    And whats the story with the cars parked on the approach road?
    Are they builders or punters that are parking there?
    I presume its because theres no parking left in the main place, or is it just Ireland where anything goes and cars get abandoned, not parked?

    They were a mixture of builders and punters. The excuse was that because there were so many builders on site, proper parking spaces were all used up. But regardless, there's not enough parking to cope with the demand of a busy summer's day.

    I really must re-emphasise what I consider to be the danger of not segregating HGV and car traffic sufficiently.


  • #1003
    -Corkie-
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    Tremelo wrote: »
    They were a mixture of builders and punters. The excuse was that because there were so many builders on site, proper parking spaces were all used up. But regardless, there's not enough parking to cope with the demand of a busy summer's day.

    I really must re-emphasise what I consider to be the danger of not segregating HGV and car traffic sufficiently.

    In the UK the trucks are segregated from the cars once they merge of the Motorway. Seperate parking for trucks and cars. Trust Ireland to make a hash of it.

    I had to laugh though when I seen your pics and the cars up on the footpath...


  • #1004
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    And to think the NRA Cashel MSA has been pulled for this :mad:


  • #1005
    Carawaystick
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    Tremelo wrote: »
    And to think the NRA Cashel MSA has been pulled for this :mad:

    Did the NRA or RSA make any observations through the planing process???


  • #1006
    Aidan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Aidan1


    A cynic would suggest that this merely shows the reason why the NRA chose the model they did for their MSA - the private sector simply wouldn't build big enough to future proof the services.

    But I'm not a cynic, and will instead ask the critical question that will be burning in the mind of anyone who travels that road regularly. Whats the coffee like?


  • #1007
    L1011
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    -Corkie- wrote: »
    In the UK the trucks are segregated from the cars once they merge of the Motorway. Seperate parking for trucks and cars. Trust Ireland to make a hash of it.

    As they are at the NRA services.


  • #1008
    John C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭John C


    Taken on my flight Cork to Munich this summer


  • #1009
    John C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭John C


    This was taken on my flight into Cork


  • #1010
    Chris_5339762
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    John C wrote: »
    Taken on my flight Cork to Munich this summer

    First one of these is the Bandon Road Roundabout ;) The second is indeed the Glanmire bypass.


  • #1011
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    John C wrote: »
    This was taken on my flight into Cork

    Bombadier open the bomb bay doors..... arm bombs... bombs away! :D


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  • #1012
    cml387
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,499 ✭✭✭cml387


    On the M8, southbound,about ten kilometers south of of Junction 11 Cahir South,something odd seems to be happening.

    The road rises gradually and turns to the right, and there is a sound-barrier on the left as well as a crash barrier.

    In the period the motorway has been open,this barrier has been crashed into on numerous occasions, as I speak it is busted again and a series of cones have been placed to close the overtaking lane (although no work seems to be happening on this section).

    Here's the spooky thing: across the fields is a section of the old N8 which was the scene of a number of crashes (including a number of fatalities) with lorries and cars veering off the road,before the motorway was built.

    It's a strange coincidence.


  • #1013
    nordydan
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    cml387 wrote: »
    On the M8, southbound,about ten kilometers south of of Junction 11 Cahir South,something odd seems to be happening.

    The road rises gradually and turns to the right, and there is a sound-barrier on the left as well as a crash barrier.

    In the period the motorway has been open,this barrier has been crashed into on numerous occasions, as I speak it is busted again and a series of cones have been placed to close the overtaking lane (although no work seems to be happening on this section).

    Here's the spooky thing: across the fields is a section of the old N8 which was the scene of a number of crashes (including a number of fatalities) with lorries and cars veering off the road,before the motorway was built.

    It's a strange coincidence.

    Are there still a load of travellers parked along the side of the road at that point?


  • #1014
    cml387
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    nordydan wrote: »
    Are there still a load of travellers parked along the side of the road at that point?


    No they are a summer phenomenon.

    It's a bit further south than that in fact.


  • #1015
    will3001
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭will3001


    Might be to do with the particular position of the sun in the sky, particularly in winter when its low to the ground....

    On an aside how they are managing to get away with no fixing the water run-off issue north of Cashel is beyone me...travelled it a week ago and it was pouring rain but the water just sat there on the road, heard on AA roadwatch 1hr later that there was an "incident" near cashel on the M8...twas no surpruse...


  • #1016
    vince
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭vince


    im not impressed whit this road plus you have to pay for the pleasure.


  • #1017
    BrianD
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    There seems to be a lot of incidents on the section at Cahir between J10 and J11. This section, if I'm recall correctly, has an auxillary lane as well. Is there a design issue here?


  • #1018
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    BrianD wrote: »
    There seems to be a lot of incidents on the section at Cahir between J10 and J11. This section, if I'm recall correctly, has an auxillary lane as well. Is there a design issue here?

    No auxiliary lane and no design issues that I'm aware of. The 2km south of J10 northbound mightn't have the best sightlines, but I've never found it to be an issue at all.


  • #1019
    L1011
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    The aux lane is between 8 and 9 at Cashel.


  • #1020
    -Corkie-
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    MYOB wrote: »
    The aux lane is between 8 and 9 at Cashel.


    Whats the purpose of that???


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  • #1021
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    Whats the purpose of that???

    The two junctions are right on top of each other, so it makes more sense to have an auxiliary lane between them.


  • #1022
    Jayuu
    Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Jayuu


    Tremelo wrote: »
    The two junctions are right on top of each other, so it makes more sense to have an auxiliary lane between them.

    Isn't this also where the N74 intersects with the M8. Isn't there one lane which is marked N74?


  • #1023
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Jayuu wrote: »
    Isn't this also where the N74 intersects with the M8. Isn't there one lane which is marked N74?

    The lane itself has no number markings but the signage does state N74 (on the southbound carriageway).


  • #1024
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    ...and I've looked very carefully, there is no potential for an M74 existing by a quirk of classification here :(


  • #1025
    fullstop
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    Why are there still cones blocking the overtaking lane both north and southbound at one point between Cashel and Mitchelstown for 'roadworks'? It's been like that for about 6 months, but I've never seen them doing any work on it.


  • #1026
    Hogzy
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    fullstop wrote: »
    Why are there still cones blocking the overtaking lane both north and southbound at one point between Cashel and Mitchelstown for 'roadworks'? It's been like that for about 6 months, but I've never seen them doing any work on it.

    I completely forgot about this. Iv noticed it every time i go up and down. Its been there ALOT longer than 6 months.


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  • #1027
    rameire
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    ive always wondered if it was due to standing water.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • #1028
    fullstop
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    rameire wrote: »
    ive always wondered if it was due to standing water.

    Don't think so really, never noticed much standing water there. Some parts of that road are a joke for standing water, particularly in and around the Fermoy toll plaza and near Cashel.


  • #1029
    niloc1951
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    Hogzy wrote: »
    I completely forgot about this. Iv noticed it every time i go up and down. Its been there ALOT longer than 6 months.

    Mr Rennicks must be laughing all the way to the bank as he lodges OUR tax money.


  • #1030
    cml387
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    fullstop wrote: »
    Why are there still cones blocking the overtaking lane both north and southbound at one point between Cashel and Mitchelstown for 'roadworks'? It's been like that for about 6 months, but I've never seen them doing any work on it.


    I commented about that here already. We will probably be looking at the years anniversary soon.


  • #1031
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    A bad week for the M8. Two fatalities, one near Cahir and the other immediately north of the Watergrasshill toll plaza today.

    Are these the first fatalities to occur on this motorway?


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  • #1032
    L1011
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    Cahir does not sound like a road accident to me:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0423/man-dies-in-crash-on-m8-in-co-tipperary.html

    Single vehicle, ended up in field, dead in truck = was dead before the truck left the road.


  • #1033
    btb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭btb


    closed between j11 & 12 from monday 30/4 for repairs

    http://www.lcc.ie/Roads/Traffic_Travel/RoadClosures/RD_Closure_M8.htm

    more info from tipp south coco

    M8 Cashel Mitchelstown Motorway

    Road to be Closed: M8 Cashel Mitchelstown Motorway between Junction 11 and Junction 12

    Period of Closure: From 8am - 6pm daily from Monday 30th April to Friday 11th May 2012. Northbound carriageway closed for the first week and the southbound for the second week.

    Alternative Route: Via the R639 (old N8) Diversion will be in place.







    South Tipperary County Council regrets any inconveniences caused for the duration of the works.


  • #1034
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Terrific. Between this and the N40 SRR being closed over the Bank Holiday weekend, my trip home will be a total chore.


  • #1035
    Hogzy
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    Amtmann wrote: »
    the N40 SRR being closed over the Bank Holiday weekend,

    huh? For how long?


  • #1036
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Hogzy wrote: »
    huh? For how long?

    Just between Sarsfield and Bandon R'bouts, all weekend.


  • #1037
    SeanW
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    btb wrote: »
    closed between j11 & 12 from monday 30/4 for repairs

    ...

    M8 Cashel Mitchelstown Motorway

    Road to be Closed: M8 Cashel Mitchelstown Motorway between Junction 11 and Junction 12

    Period of Closure: From 8am - 6pm daily from Monday 30th April to Friday 11th May 2012. Northbound carriageway closed for the first week and the southbound for the second week.
    Well f***.

    I'm likely to hit that both ways over the next 2 weeks.


  • #1038
    JupiterKid
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    I wonder if the closure of the M8 between Cashen and Mitchelstown has anything to do with undetected problems at the construction stage. Wasn't there talk of the embankments settling too quickly?


  • #1039
    L1011
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    If they're doing work that only needs a part time possession why on earth are they doing it during the day??


  • #1040
    rameire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭rameire


    Drove south along the m8 from junction 3 and back Again today.
    No cones to be seen at all. Parts of the road were resurfaced where the cones were previously on the southbound and northbound lanes.
    In the bad weather that there was today, there were only two spots that were bad, one was a two meter wide puddle of water before junction 6 I think, and another was where the cones were before, and it was a 15 meter stretch of water, both were southbound. Didn't aquaplane, thankfully.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • #1041
    Amtmann
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    A wind turbine has been erected at junction 10 to power the lighting. It's not operational yet.


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  • #1042
    BluntGuy
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    Amtmann wrote: »
    A wind turbine has been erected at junction 10 to power the lighting. It's not operational yet.

    Is this is a one off thing or is there a strategy to do this at other junctions?


  • #1043
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    BluntGuy wrote: »
    Is this is a one off thing or is there a strategy to do this at other junctions?

    Unsure, Blunt. I think another turbine is being erected at junction 9.


  • #1044
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Bad accident last night on the Watergrasshill Bypass southbound, about 1.5km north of J18.

    A car left the carriageway at speed and smashed into the grass median, but was stopped by the wire barrier. A close one.


  • #1045
    FullBeard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭FullBeard


    Has anyone noticed the new structure at junction 9? It's either a wind turbine or a piece of modern art :confused:


  • #1046
    cml387
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,499 ✭✭✭cml387


    FullBeard wrote: »
    Has anyone noticed the new structure at junction 9? It's either a wind turbine or a piece of modern art :confused:


    Actually there is a piece of modern art and a wind turbine at junction 9


  • #1047
    FullBeard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭FullBeard


    cml387 wrote: »
    Actually there is a piece of modern art and a wind turbine at junction 9

    Junction 9 Cashel? I haven't seen two new structures, just one extremely tall metallic structure that looks like a standing cream beater.


  • #1048
    Chris_5339762
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    Spotted one of those M50 style "Travel Time" signs near Urlingford the other day going NB. Hope they are going to put Travel Times on it and not "Garda Message - Slow Down" or something like that.


  • #1049
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Was driving down from the matchs in Croker yesterday evening and saw two cars of Cork supporters pulled into that Garda Use layby which is gated off. There they were at side of a Motorway with cars whizzing by at 150km/h having tea and sandwiches! Highly dangerous and cringe worthy.

    I also witnessed some gobsh1te reversing back on the hard shoulder as he had missed the M7-M8 turn off and having made the turn off myself I was like jeez, he is some eejit!


  • #1050
    cml387
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    FullBeard wrote: »
    Junction 9 Cashel? I haven't seen two new structures, just one extremely tall metallic structure that looks like a standing cream beater.

    Just before the northbound exit at J9 is a mock-abandoned house which is an art "installation".


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  • #1051
    L1011
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    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    Spotted one of those M50 style "Travel Time" signs near Urlingford the other day going NB. Hope they are going to put Travel Times on it and not "Garda Message - Slow Down" or something like that.

    There's no cameras installed to track travel times on other motorways than the M50 and M1 (yet anyway).

    The VMS rollout is independent of the travel time system.


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