London 2012 Megathread [Part 1]

Colmustard · 05-08-2012 04:36PM

Jason Kenny also looks unbeatable, the British are really dominating the track cycling.

Guy:Incognito · 05-08-2012 04:36PM

Whats the story with all these eejits holding up ipads and taking pictures of stuff 30 metres + away? Its a bloody 5mp camera on a tablet. Do these people not have phones at least or do they just want everone to know they have an ipad?

COYW · 05-08-2012 04:36PM

cgpg5 wrote: »

Well done Murray couldn't be happier for him. Another gold for GB! Great stuff

Team GB is on some roll. Unreal stuff. I see Katie is fighting at team GB girl tomorrow. I am actually getting worried about this fight now.

Pherekydes · 05-08-2012 04:36PM

titan18 wrote: »

Anyone can miss a test, true. You miss 3 tests and you're either hiding something or you're so stupid that you have trouble tying your shoelaces.

Jeez, did you never forget anything?

Anyone · 05-08-2012 04:37PM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Just like Kostas Kenteris and E. Thanou?

To miss one test is unfortunate, two is careless and three........

Rio Ferdinand missed one and was banned for eight months, she can consider herself fortunate to only have received a 1 year ban

Well you cant get perma banned anymore, look at Chambers, the British federation wanted him banned for life, the IOC overturned it..

And holy shít that Russian just lifted 151kg

cgpg5 · 05-08-2012 04:38PM

Roger Federer is a gent

COYW · 05-08-2012 04:40PM

cgpg5 wrote: »

Roger Federer is a gent

Different class in that interview.

robinph · 05-08-2012 04:40PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Whats the story with all these eejits holding up ipads and taking pictures of stuff 30 metres + away? Its a bloody 5mp camera on a tablet. Do these people not have phones at least or do they just want everone to know they have an ipad?

Don't know how anyone could ever think that a tablet is a convienient way of taking pictures, well other than the late Mr Jobs maybe. Even a phone is pretty rubbish for photo taking but if that is what you happen to have on you. The tablet thing is daft though.

metaoblivia · 05-08-2012 04:41PM

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

Horriffic women's vault final in gymnastics, literally the worst one I have ever seen. Canadian Elsabeth Black crashes her first vault, is injured on it and balks after running for her second one and doesn't vault. First (and second) receive a zero, but it's another controversial zero (a vault is zeroed if anything other than your feet hit the mat first) as it looks like she MAY have got her feet down.

Dominican Republic's Yamilet Pena Abreu spectacularly crashes her impossible vault- which few men attempt at all, nevermind women. She has sat the thing for over a year now, but gets a score as her feet hit first. Normally happy to be alive after vaulting (people predict her death when she throws that vault) she is absolutely gutted not to medal- must have been insane pressure on her, sad to see.

Russia's Maria Paseka comes off the mat entirely which is a huge deduction..and isn't deducted for it. She gets bronze and screws over the two very clean and ON the mat vaults by Germany's Janine Berger.

The outright favourite McKayla Maroney whose vault screenshot from team finals went viral as it showed judges with their mouths open at how spectacular it was SITS her second vault. This was seen as the only sure-thing gold in all of gymnastics, male or female. She would have won with a huge margin if she had vaulted like she did in qualification. Even with the sit-down and a non-perfect landing on her first vault- she loses gold by only one tenth, an absolutely tiny margin, which shows how fantastic her vaulting is. Sandra Izbasa takes gold, deservedly- great vaults. But this was a sickening final.

It was a shocking final. Maroney had hit 59 consecutive vaults up until that point. She said during the press conference afterwards that she wasn't disappointed with her silver medal - she was disappointed with her performance. Class. And Izbasa was the deserved winner. I'm American, but I would have been uncomfortable with an Olympic champ who had fall. Frankly, I'm uncomfortable with the silver medalist having fall, but Maroney does have such a huge advantage over everyone else in both difficulty and execution.

And how about that men's pommels final? Britain has to be feeling a little undone by this competition. First, the fluke in team finals, sending them from silver to bronze, and now a tie breaker that worked out in favor of Berki instead of Smith (although I've personally always preferred Berki to Smith).

Shryke · 05-08-2012 04:42PM

Roger interviewed there. Really good guy. Great sport about taking silver.

Guy:Incognito · 05-08-2012 04:43PM

If that Chinese one in the weightlifting walked on in the mens competition no one would question her not being a man.

Pherekydes · 05-08-2012 04:45PM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Just like Kostas Kenteris and E. Thanou?

To miss one test is unfortunate, two is careless and three........

Rio Ferdinand missed one and was banned for eight months, she can consider herself fortunate to only have received a 1 year ban

No. Ohurougu's case has nothing to do with the two Greeks.

Ferdinand's case was also different.

Missing a test is not a doping offence (Ohurougu)

Avoiding a test is a doping offence (Ferdinand)

If Ohurougu did what Ferdinand did she would get a two year ban, so who got off lightly?

titan18 · 05-08-2012 04:45PM

Pherekydes wrote: »

Jeez, did you never forget anything?

Yes, have I ever forgotten something that important, no.

If you had to be at a meeting to save your job, would you forget it? Or worse, forget it 3 times.

Rascasse wrote: »

It was found that it was impossible for her to have doped as she was tested in between and after the two missed test (the third was from a previous year).

From the Telegraph:

Tests she missed:
Oct 12 2005: Testers waited for an hour at Mile End stadium, but Ohuruogu failed to appear.

June 28 2006: Ohuruogu tried to drive across London when she realised she had not notified testers she had switched training venues from Mile End to the Olympic Medical Institute in Harrow. She failed to make it in time.

July 25 2006: A school sports day at Mile End forced her to relocate at the last minute to Crystal Palace. In the panic to drive to the venue, Ohuruogu forgot to tell the testers.

Tests she passed:
July 16 2006: Ohuruogu underwent a random test following her run in the 200m at the European Championship trials in Manchester where she finished fifth. Result: negative.

July 28 2006: Finished last in the 400m at the British Grand Prix at Crystal Palace. Again chosen at random to be tested. Result: negative.

Pretty naive to think it's impossible to be doping because you tested negative, considering the history of athletics and the amount of athletes who've never tested positive who were doped up.

marco_polo · 05-08-2012 04:48PM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Just like Kostas Kenteris and E. Thanou?

I suppose if you can't be bothered to look at the specific circumstances of each case individually then yes.

Corruptedmorals · 05-08-2012 04:48PM

metaoblivia wrote: »

It was a shocking final. Maroney had hit 59 consecutive vaults up until that point. She said during the press conference afterwards that she wasn't disappointed with her silver medal - she was disappointed with her performance. Class. And Izbasa was the deserved winner. I'm American, but I would have been uncomfortable with an Olympic champ who had fall. Frankly, I'm uncomfortable with the silver medalist having fall, but Maroney does have such a huge advantage over everyone else in both difficulty and execution.

And how about that men's pommels final? Britain has to be feeling a little undone by this competition. First, the fluke in team finals, sending them from silver to bronze, and now a tie breaker that worked out in favor of Berki instead of Smith (although I've personally always preferred Berki to Smith).

I am fed up of tiebreakers. How many are we at now? Aly Raisman screwed entirely, Denis Ablyazin misses silver due to one and now again in pommel horse Smith loses gold. Still seven events to go! Scoring has been shocking so far. Just give both the meal if they have the same score! Berki IS better, but Smith has the higher difficulty..tough to call that one. Still, Whitlock's bronze was pretty unexpected...TF bronze, a silver and bronze in EF and still have Beth to go..that's a pretty phenomenal Olympics in GB gymnastics' book.

I think McKayla deserved that silver, her difficulty and execution just put her so far ahead. So close to the gold shows how great she is. Gutted for her.

garv123 · 05-08-2012 04:53PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Whats the story with all these eejits holding up ipads and taking pictures of stuff 30 metres + away? Its a bloody 5mp camera on a tablet. Do these people not have phones at least or do they just want everone to know they have an ipad?

Idiots at Wimbledon were doing it too. Basically watching the match through the I-pads. I was hoping a stray ball would smash it.

Basically just like when the iphone came out they wanted to show that they are a posh C*nt and have one.

el diablo · 05-08-2012 04:55PM

leahyl wrote: »

So Federer let Murray win? JUST KIDDING!

Murray wanted it more.... Simple.

Jimoslimos · 05-08-2012 04:55PM

Rascasse wrote: »

Tests she missed:
Oct 12 2005: Testers waited for an hour at Mile End stadium, but Ohuruogu failed to appear.

June 28 2006: Ohuruogu tried to drive across London when she realised she had not notified testers she had switched training venues from Mile End to the Olympic Medical Institute in Harrow. She failed to make it in time.

July 25 2006: A school sports day at Mile End forced her to relocate at the last minute to Crystal Palace. In the panic to drive to the venue, Ohuruogu forgot to tell the testers.

Tests she passed:
July 16 2006: Ohuruogu underwent a random test following her run in the 200m at the European Championship trials in Manchester where she finished fifth. Result: negative.

July 28 2006: Finished last in the 400m at the British Grand Prix at Crystal Palace. Again chosen at random to be tested. Result: negative.

I think that raises more questions,

The tests she passed were in-competition tests - where she would expect a high chance of being picked.

The ones she missed seem to be out-of-competition. Rather important in the context of athletes cycling their doping regimes to be clean during competition time.

Anyone · 05-08-2012 04:56PM

After the snatch comes the clean and jerk. Gold medal if you can manage it to the chinese woman.

Guy:Incognito · 05-08-2012 04:57PM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

The ones she missed seem to be out-of-competition. Rather important in the context of athletes cycling their doping regimes to be clean during competition time.

Would all traces be gone in 3 days?

leahyl · 05-08-2012 04:58PM

el diablo wrote: »

leahyl wrote: »

So Federer let Murray win? JUST KIDDING!

Murray wanted it more.... Simple.

No doubt he did after losing Wimbledon final a few weeks back - delighted for him

leahyl · 05-08-2012 04:59PM

Irish guy in cycling now

robinph · 05-08-2012 05:02PM

titan18 wrote: »

If you had to be at a meeting to save your job, would you forget it? Or worse, forget it 3 times.

Bad comparison. These are meetings that you do not know about until the other guys turn up on your doorstep, but you have to let them know where you will be for an hour everyday(?).

leahyl · 05-08-2012 05:05PM

Ooooh Denmark guy just fell off bike!

marco_polo · 05-08-2012 05:06PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Jimoslimos wrote: »

The ones she missed seem to be out-of-competition. Rather important in the context of athletes cycling their doping regimes to be clean during competition time.

Would all traces be gone in 3 days?

All substances are different and the list is long but for say testosterone or steroids you would be Looking at weeks or even months of remaining detectable.

On another note some great news that after these games they are going to name 5 athletes from Athens 2004 who have now been re tested as positive on there original samples, including a few medal winners who are to be stripped of their medals. Thankfully its getting harder and harder for the cheats to escape.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/news/five-athens-drug-cheats-to-be-revealed-8008017.html

metaoblivia · 05-08-2012 05:10PM

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

I am fed up of tiebreakers. How many are we at now? Aly Raisman screwed entirely, Denis Ablyazin misses silver due to one and now again in pommel horse Smith loses gold. Still seven events to go! Scoring has been shocking so far. Just give both the meal if they have the same score! Berki IS better, but Smith has the higher difficulty..tough to call that one. Still, Whitlock's bronze was pretty unexpected...TF bronze, a silver and bronze in EF and still have Beth to go..that's a pretty phenomenal Olympics in GB gymnastics' book.

I think McKayla deserved that silver, her difficulty and execution just put her so far ahead. So close to the gold shows how great she is. Gutted for her.

Yeah, the tiebreaking situation is just insane. It sucks to be a place lower than you expected, but especially on a tiebreaker. And you're exactly right - Berki is better, but Smith has more difficulty, and the execution breaks the tie, so it's all in accordance with the rules. It just sucks that both men can't receive gold medals.

I'm hoping - hoping! - for no more ties, but the way things have been going... today just wasn't an auspicious start to event finals.

patmac · 05-08-2012 05:12PM

Donegal winning the wrestling.

titan18 · 05-08-2012 05:13PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Would all traces be gone in 3 days?

EPO has a half life if injected intravenously of 5 hours. An intravenous injection nearly eliminates the chance of it showing up in an urine test.

The old test for HGH was only detectable with blood testing and for up to 72 hours, I believe.

patmac · 05-08-2012 05:26PM

Pherekydes wrote: »

The usual ignorant sh1te. She's not a druggie or a drug cheat. She had a ban because of three missed tests. Athletes are allowed miss tests, just not 3. Sh1t happens. Anyone can miss a test.

Not ignorant sh1te, she was banned for drug offences for missing 3 tests, I would rather accept the IOC's decision than your opinion.

Pherekydes · 05-08-2012 05:29PM

patmac wrote: »

Not ignorant sh1te, she was banned for drug offences for missing 3 tests, I would rather accept the IOC's decision than your opinion.

Nothing to do with the IOC.

The fact that she was banned for missing three tests doesn't mean she's a doper or a drug cheat.

London 2012 Megathread [Part 1]

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