Notorious Judge strikes again.

SocSocPol · 03-08-2012 08:38AM #1

Remember thae Judge who said he would "Blow the head of any intruder" who entered his house, the same Judge who wants women victims of domestic violence prosecuted if the withdraw the charges against their husbands/partners, the judge who describes himself as "Dirty Harry", well in his latest fcuk up a convicted drug dealer (who had pleaded guilty!) has had his conviction quashed because of the Judges comments when sentencing him.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/man-wins-appeal-after-controversial-judge-comments-3188775.html

When oh when will get professionally trained Judges in the District Court instead of the politically appointed Gombeens we have now?

omahaid · 03-08-2012 08:41AM

SocSocPol wrote: »

When oh when will get professionally trained Judges in the District Court instead of the politically appointed Gombeens we have now?

When they can be held to account by the populace.

SocSocPol · 03-08-2012 08:44AM

omahaid wrote: »

When they can be held to account by the populace.

Judges should be accountable to the law, not the populance

Wacker The Attacker · 03-08-2012 08:47AM

SocSocPol wrote: »

Remember thae Judge who said he would "Blow the head of any intruder" who entered his house, the same Judge who wants women victims of domestic violence prosecuted if the withdraw the charges against their husbands/partners, the judge who describes himself as "Dirty Harry", well in his latest fcuk up a convicted drug dealer (who had pleaded guilty!) has had his conviction quashed because of the Judges comments when sentencing him.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/man-wins-appeal-after-controversial-judge-comments-3188775.html

When oh when will get professionally trained Judges in the District Court instead of the politically appointed Gombeens we have now?

So would I.

token101 · 03-08-2012 08:50AM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

So would I.

Yes, but you're not supposed to unless your life is threatened. It's illegal. Therefore it shouldn't be endorsed by a f*cking judge.

Wacker The Attacker · 03-08-2012 08:52AM

token101 wrote: »

Yes, but you're not supposed to unless your life is threatened. It's illegal. Therefore it shouldn't be endorsed by a f*cking judge.

How is anyone supposed to know if a dead burglar was being threatening or not?

Faolchu · 03-08-2012 08:57AM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

How is anyone supposed to know if a dead burglar was being threatening or not?

thats a fair point, just make sure to stick a knife or something in his hands afterwards so that his prints are all over it

03-08-2012 08:57AM

They discovered drugs paraphernalia, approximately eight bags of cannabis, a weighing scales, a notepad with a "tick" list and over €700 in cash in the house.

Menace II Society he is not.

Wacker The Attacker · 03-08-2012 08:59AM

Faolchu wrote: »

thats a fair point, just make sure to stick a knife or something in his hands afterwards so that his prints are all over it

A lot of these legal "provisos" just confuse the issue sometimes.

conorhal · 03-08-2012 09:03AM

SocSocPol wrote: »

Judges should be accountable to the law, not the populance

Our gombeen politicians are 'accountable' to the populace. So I'd imagine that we'd see an increase rather than a decrease in idiot judges if that became the case. Judge Fidelma Healy Eames anybody?

That said, we badly need judicial reform and judges to climb out of their ivory towers once in a while.

Wacker The Attacker · 03-08-2012 09:07AM

conorhal wrote: »

Our gombeen politicians are 'accountable' to the populace. So I'd imagine that we'd see an increase rather than a decrease in idiot judges if that became the case. Judge Fidelma Healy Eames anybody?

That said, we badly need judicial reform and judges to climb out of their ivory towers once in a while.

Politicians will have to be accountable to the people who voted for them purely and simply on the basis of how their profession operates.

The same set of rules do not apply to the legal profession

listermint · 03-08-2012 09:09AM

conorhal wrote: »

Our gombeen politicians are 'accountable' to the populace. So I'd imagine that we'd see an increase rather than a decrease in idiot judges if that became the case. Judge Fidelma Healy Eames anybody?

That said, we badly need judicial reform and judges to climb out of their ivory towers once in a while.

Are they though, i mean look at this edgit with her car tax and her ripping of tradesmen and fare avoidance. Where is the accountability? Can we turn off her salary?

We dont seem to have recourse with the government and anything appears to fall on deaf ears until 4 years comes around.

FatherLen · 03-08-2012 09:34AM

8 months for selling weed?

SocSocPol · 03-08-2012 09:45AM

FatherLen wrote: »

8 months for selling weed?

Caught red handed, pleaded guilty, but thanks to a gombeenman Judge his conviction has been qushed!:mad:

johngalway · 03-08-2012 09:50AM

Blow the head off home intruders... OK by me.

Bury (legally...) drug dealers... OK by me.

Take the head off drug dealers... OK by me.

I think the laws should be changed to accommodate this judges views and we'd have a better country for it.

FatherLen · 03-08-2012 09:52AM

johngalway wrote: »

Blow the head off home intruders... OK by me.

Bury (legally...) drug dealers... OK by me.

Take the head off drug dealers... OK by me.

I think the laws should be changed to accommodate this judges views and we'd have a better country for it.

in the past few weeks we have seen , corruption, abuse of powers, and ridiculously harsh/lenient sentences from judges. and you want to give them more power?

03-08-2012 09:53AM

SocSocPol wrote: »

Caught red handed, pleaded guilty, but thanks to a gombeenman Judge his conviction has been qushed!:mad:

Jaysus, if only he'd been caught red handed trying to rape someone, and then pleaded not guilty - he'd have gotten two months less.

mconigol · 03-08-2012 09:56AM

johngalway wrote: »

Blow the head off home intruders... OK by me.

Bury (legally...) drug dealers... OK by me.

Take the head off drug dealers... OK by me.

I think the laws should be changed to accommodate this judges views and we'd have a better country for it.

Yeah all fine but he should be intelligent enough to keep his month shut.

johngalway · 03-08-2012 10:13AM

FatherLen wrote: »

in the past few weeks we have seen , corruption, abuse of powers, and ridiculously harsh/lenient sentences from judges. and you want to give them more power?

I find it strange how you quote me and go on to talk about nothing I've said.

geeky · 03-08-2012 10:53AM

Not the first time this has happened.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/man-gets-bail-after-judge-said-ill-spit-you-out-3093782.html

Seriously, is this man senile or just sad? Either way, his indiscretions are costing the state a fair chunk of change. And he comes across as proper mental in this case.

Wacker The Attacker · 03-08-2012 11:19AM

When judges play it by the book they are criticized.

When they don't they are criticized.

I'm not a huge fan of the legal profession but perhaps it's the law that's the problem and not the judges.

kingtiger · 03-08-2012 11:23AM

SocSocPol wrote: »

Caught red handed, pleaded guilty, but thanks to a gombeenman Judge his conviction has been qushed!:mad:

my God :eek:

the offender was worse than Hitler

Royal Legend · 03-08-2012 11:24AM

From the Indo

Mr Murphy was then freed from Loughan House open prison in Co Cavan, where he had been in custody for the past three-and-a-half months.
(Considering what happened there before, he could have walked out anyway, or who is to say he was there in the first place :rolleyes:)

He also branded Tyrone people as "typically thick", but again was forced to make a public apology for the remark. (:) THAT ONE MADE ME SMILE)

later12 · 03-08-2012 11:27AM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

When judges play it by the book they are criticized.

When they don't they are criticized.

I'm not a huge fan of the legal profession but perhaps it's the law that's the problem and not the judges.

With all due respect, have you actually read the OP's article? How is that even vaguely acceptable for a Judge to say?

As another link showed, the Judge has some previous, disturbing form and a worrying superiority complex for a man in his position.

In an affidavit, his solicitor Joseph Coonan said his client attended the sitting of the court before Judge MacBride. When the matter was called he addressed the court without realising he had one hand in his pocket.

He said that on seeing this, the judge said: "How dare you speak to me like that, have you anything to say for yourself." Mr Coonan did not know that the judge was referring to his hand being in his pocket.

The judge continued: "How dare you speak to me with your hand in your pocket? I'll hold you in contempt of court. I will rise for five minutes." The judge ordered a garda inspector to escort him into his chambers, where Mr Coonan said he apologised to the judge.

The judge, he said, replied: "I am a Donegal man and we don't suffer fools, there was another practitioner who spoke to me like that in Donegal and I put manners him and I am going to put manners on you too."

Mr Coonan was then escorted back to court. When Mr Gavin's case was called, gardai objected to bail.

When Mr Gavin was being sworn in, the judge stated: "I want an armed member of An Garda Siochana between me and the accused at all times and in future, Mr Coonan added.

Mr Gavin took the bible and held it with both hands to his forehead before taking the oath. Mr Coonan said other clients of his have done this as a gesture of solemnity.

He said the judge stated: "Do not desecrate the bible like that take the oath correctly," adding "you've no respect for religion or the court, I'll swallow you up and spit you out".

monkeypants · 03-08-2012 12:03PM

SocSocPol wrote: »

wants women victims of domestic violence prosecuted if the withdraw the charges against their husbands/partners

I'm going to assume that he also means male victims of domestic violence, in which case I think that a charge of wasting police time or something similar is appropriate.
Having said that, it's plain that this judge is a dick.

johngalway · 03-08-2012 12:34PM

mconigol wrote: »

Yeah all fine but he should be intelligent enough to keep his month shut.

Well, maybe... I don't think insulting people like with the Tyrone comment is particularly helpful to anything. But, neither is being verbally hamstrung. I wouldn't agree with the situation where a drug dealer gets off because of comments a judge makes, after all the criminal pleaded guilty. It's my belief it is the law that is at fault here, and not the judge, which is why I said above the law needs to be changed.

How many threads on here give out about dealing, junkies and the associated crime because of drugs and addiction. I have no sympathy for people who engage in those activities.

Neither do I believe judges or the Gardai are infallible, but in the case of this particular judge I believe he's mostly right.

mikemac1 · 03-08-2012 12:39PM

SocSocPol wrote: »

the same Judge who wants women victims of domestic violence prosecuted if the withdraw the charges against their husbands/partners,

Mud sticks

If you accuse your husband of being a wife beater, soon all the town knows and then you drop the charges and walk away

Dangerous

If there are charges then back them up in court, not leave it hanging

hooradiation · 03-08-2012 12:43PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

SocSocPol wrote: »

Remember thae Judge who said he would "Blow the head of any intruder" who entered his house, the same Judge who wants women victims of domestic violence prosecuted if the withdraw the charges against their husbands/partners, the judge who describes himself as "Dirty Harry", well in his latest fcuk up a convicted drug dealer (who had pleaded guilty!) has had his conviction quashed because of the Judges comments when sentencing him.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/man-wins-appeal-after-controversial-judge-comments-3188775.html

When oh when will get professionally trained Judges in the District Court instead of the politically appointed Gombeens we have now?

So would I.

I don't think your threats of oral sex, no matter how poorly performed, will have the effect you're hoping for.

SocSocPol · 03-08-2012 12:45PM

Heres a few more of this Gombeens stunts.
Yawning in court:
http://www.joe.ie/news-politics/current-affairs/disrespectful-yawner-thrown-out-of-dundalk-court-0019970-1

Women victims of domestic violence should be prosecuted(Judge MacBride advised that the Director of Public Prosecutions be asked to consider prosecuting women who drop charges of assault with wasting Garda time)
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0719/1224320380917.html

Nodin · 03-08-2012 12:51PM

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Jaysus, if only he'd been caught red handed trying to rape someone, and then pleaded not guilty - he'd have gotten two months less.

Ahh no, that only applies to quality people.

starbelgrade · 03-08-2012 01:23PM

johngalway wrote: »

Blow the head off home intruders... OK by me.

Bury (legally...) drug dealers... OK by me.

Take the head off drug dealers... OK by me.

I think the laws should be changed to accommodate this judges views and we'd have a better country for it.

In it's ideal form, the penal system should aid the reform of people who break the law. In that way, society as a whole is improved.

Your solution - which is to just kill criminals - serves no purpose other than to sate your own blood lust. It also doesn't work - in the states in America where the death penalty exists, the crime rates are as high (and sometimes higher) than those which don't have it.

Any time there's a thread like this, there's the populist cry of "kill them all" as a solution to criminals in society, but in reality it's ill thought out and utterly pointless logic.

Notorious Judge strikes again.

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