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Teenager arrested for slagging Tom Daley on Twitter

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  • #32
    AEDIC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭AEDIC


    Fritzl Funderland wrote: »
    The Uk has gone mad

    You cant make threats to kill in any country and expect to get away with it....even in Ireland.


  • #33
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    jhegarty wrote: »
    Free speech means having the right to say something like this.

    Today it's been nasty to an Olympian , next week it's someone who critiques the government.

    You think if he had said the same about David Cameron he should be arrested to ?

    How about Tony Blair when he sent the troops to Iraq ?
    Ah, the internet. It's been such a boon for free speech - giving a voice to those who would otherwise be unable to get their voice out in public.

    But that huge boost has also allowed free speech to be abused so badly by so many people who don't understand what it is.

    All rights come with a balancing responsibility. There's no such thing as a blanket right. The right to free speech equally comes with a balancing responsibility to use your right in a socially responsible manner and to be held accountable for any and all outcomes of your speech.

    Come back when you are being threatened with torture or murder for daring to speak your mind and then you can bitch about free speech.


  • #34
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    super_furry wrote: »
    Well as someone who was following the whole thing on twitter, I can tell you those tweets are verbatem. The account of the teen who was arrested has been blocked by twitter, obviously pending the investigation, however you can see the original tweets here https://twitter.com/Rileyy_69

    Dear god that little prick deserves a right hiding.
    The **** he comes up with to insult people, i hope he gets 18 shades of ****e knocked out of him.


  • #35
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    super_furry wrote: »
    Well as someone who was following the whole thing on twitter, I can tell you those tweets are verbatem. The account of the teen who was arrested has been blocked by twitter, obviously pending the investigation, however you can see the original tweets here https://twitter.com/Rileyy_69

    I'm still able to view the profile (maybe because I'm signed in to twitter)

    He expects people to believe that he wasn't aware that his father had died :rolleyes:


  • #36
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Yeah they seem to have reopened it for viewing, it wasn't earlier.


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  • #37
    jcf
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭jcf


    blackwhite wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19059127


    Daley's father died last year from cancer.


    For those that haven't seen it, the offending tweet (and some of the reaction) is posted here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79993723&postcount=6707.

    What sort of country is the UK becoming when a person can get arrested for this?
    Yes, it's a pretty horrible thing to say, and the teenager who tweeted it is clearly a nasty piece of work, but for this to be an arrestable offence is a sad reflection on what the UK police forces have become.
    "Political correctness gone mad" is a phrase bandied about far too often, especially on these boards, but in this case I think it's very appropriate. The UK is becoming more and more authoritarion, freedom of speech no longer exists and it seems more and more that anybody who says anything that the moral majority don't like is being criminalised.


    A nazi police run disgusting state.


  • #38
    CodyJarrett
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 307 ✭✭CodyJarrett


    Can't believe how many followers this guy has: almost 50,000.

    I can see him on Big Brother next year having mended his ways and wanting money forgiveness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQtAAMwjiIU


  • #39
    BraziliaNZ
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    Reminds me of that woman on the bus in London screaming racial abuse. Do we really need to arrest everyone with views we don't agree with? The youtube/twitter police thing is all very 1984. It's George Orwell's thought police. Seriously this is some mad sh*t! There will always be people who say exteme things without thinking, we can't arrest them all. Blame Twitter for publishing it not the kid.

    There was a funny article about what the journo misses about the 20th century in the Guardian last night, this thread reminded me of it -
    4. Having a pint with a racist Maybe it's the invisibility of old people, but I rarely "fall into conversation" with morons in the pub these days. It's what happened in the golden age before we had mobiles to check. There'd be a neutral remark about the weather and before you knew it some sullen clump of sideboards and tash opposite would be blaming "them" for his early black-and-white version of Broken Britain. Then you'd have an argument while you drank your pints and it seemed quite important to engage and challenge. Today, if anyone says anything racist the protocol is to smile, pretend to go to the toilet, tweet "Oh my God, there's a totally racist dude in this pub", then covertly film them and hope they say something YouTubeable.


  • #40
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    There will always be people who say exteme things without thinking, we can't arrest them all. Blame Twitter for publishing it not the kid.

    Really???


  • #41
    BraziliaNZ
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    jordainius wrote: »
    Really???

    No not really, just let these losers get on with their online arguments if that's what they want to do. Why do celebrities post on Twitter when they know they are under the constant gaze of the public?
    A few years ago an inner city urchin in Dublin about 12 threated to shoot me over and over for not giving him a smoke. Should he have been locked up?


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  • #42
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    A few years ago an inner city urchin in Dublin about 12 threated to shoot me over and over for not giving him a smoke. Should he have been locked up?

    If you make death threats via a public medium like twitter or a blog, you should expect to be arrested, simple as that.


  • #43
    CodyJarrett
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 307 ✭✭CodyJarrett


    jhegarty wrote: »
    Anyone have a link to a reconsigned new source with the other information ?

    You don't need a credible source - he (nor Twitter) have deleted any of the Tweets from his account as of yet:

    https://twitter.com/Rileyy_69


  • #44
    BraziliaNZ
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    super_furry wrote: »
    If you make death threats via a public medium like twitter or a blog, you should expect to be arrested, simple as that.

    But not in person?


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
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    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    No not really, just let these losers get on with their online arguments if that's what they want to do. Why do celebrities post on Twitter when they know they are under the constant gaze of the public?
    A few years ago an inner city urchin in Dublin about 12 threated to shoot me over and over for not giving him a smoke. Should he have been locked up?

    So twitter is just for uneducated **** who like to bully others?
    Constant gaze of the public does not = "i'm going to shoot you" :pac:


  • #46
    keith16
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    Reminds me of that woman on the bus in London screaming racial abuse. Do we really need to arrest everyone with views we don't agree with? The youtube/twitter police thing is all very 1984. It's George Orwell's thought police. Seriously this is some mad sh*t! There will always be people who say exteme things without thinking, we can't arrest them all. Blame Twitter for publishing it not the kid.

    There was a funny article about what the journo misses about the 20th century in the Guardian last night, this thread reminded me of it -

    There is a big difference between cogent thoughts and views which the likes of this fool and others cannot be accused of forming and outright threats.

    A threat is not a "thought" or a "viewpoint".


  • #47
    who the fug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭who the fug


    If you made these threats in a public house whilst pissed with in ear shot of a policeman, what would be the charge ?


  • #48
    BraziliaNZ
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    who the fug wrote: »
    If you made these threats in a public house whilst pissed with in ear shot of a policeman, what would be the charge ?

    Calm down and go home probably. Another storm in a twittercup.


  • #49
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    But not in person?

    You're talking about one person's word against another there - a lot more difficult to prove.

    Plus there's a massive difference between a child talking ****e and a credible threat from someone's who's clearly unstable.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RqnMB8HToo


  • #50
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    No not really, just let these losers get on with their online arguments if that's what they want to do. Why do celebrities post on Twitter when they know they are under the constant gaze of the public?
    A few years ago an inner city urchin in Dublin about 12 threated to shoot me over and over for not giving him a smoke. Should he have been locked up?

    You can't blame twitter for idiots choosing to use their site abuse and threaten and spread hatred. It would be next to impossible to monitor the volume of tweets posted every minute/second. And this "kid" is 17 years old, he knows exactly what he was doing.

    Why shouldn't celebrities join twitter? Should they all just unsubscribe and let idiots like this win? Everyone should be free to use twitter without having to put up with hateful idiots like this, regardless of their profile be they people like myself with a small amount of followers or celebrities with thousands/millions of followers.


  • #51
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Death threats are death threats - it's the online equivalent of hate mail.

    Those going on about nazi state, police state, 1984 nonsense should have an actual think about the hysterical silliness they're saying, then do research into actually living in such states.

    Absolute free speech does not exist.


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  • #52
    roast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭roast


    Good to see the f'ckers getting manners put on him but jaysus, what a waste of resources if he really is arrested!

    EDIT:Nevermind, just saw the death threats. Prick.


  • #53
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    In the ruling in last weeks twitter case,

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/27/twitter-joke-trial-twits-paul-chambers
    The lord chief justice, Lord Judge, sitting with Mr Justice Owen and Mr Justice Griffith Williams, said: "We have concluded that, on an objective assessment, the decision of the crown court that this 'tweet' constituted or included a message of a menacing character was not open to it.


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/jul/27/twitter-joke-trial-high-court
    "The more one reflects on it," the justices state dryly, "the clearer it becomes that this message did not represent a terrorist threat, or indeed any other form of threat … the language and punctuation are inconsistent with the writer intending it to be a serious warning."


    It all boils down to tone. The tweet about blowing up the airport was clearly a joke.
    Whereas this guy sounds serious. Now, as someone said, would you be charged if you made these threats in public. Probably not if it was just the once. But you probably would if you kept repeating it to people. Which is what this guy has done.


  • #54
    K.Flyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,560 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    He deserves to be arressted and charged, in my opinion what he did was the same as standing outside the guys house and shouting the abuse from the garden gate for all to hear.


  • #55
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    The police should watch that show where travellers are working in a shop in Liverpool making dresses. Every traveller would be arrested for making death threats.


  • #56
    StephenHendry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭StephenHendry


    i think the fact that he is being arrested, cautioned etc. should deter most people from doing something similar. obviously it wont stop everyone. neil lennon had similar stuff posted about him on twitter from people thinking they could get away with it. people have freedom of speech but shouldnt abuse it. hopefully the kid will learn a lesson from this.


  • #57
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Cienciano wrote: »
    The police should watch that show where travellers are working in a shop in Liverpool making dresses. Every traveller would be arrested for making death threats.

    You think that squables among friends are comparable with that kind of behaviour?


  • #58
    Yamanoto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    Cienciano wrote: »
    The police should watch that show where travellers are working in a shop in Liverpool making dresses. Every traveller would be arrested for making death threats.

    Youtube is choc-full of Traveller men issuing threats, which in many cases, they undoubtedly intend acting upon. The primary reason this malignant foetus faces possible sanction is due to Olympic fever. Something broadly similar happened to an eejit who tweeted some unsavoury stuff, during the course of the Fabrice Muamba phenomenon.


  • #59
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Melion wrote: »
    What the hell are they going to charge him with?

    Being mean to an oylmpic athlete I guess:rolleyes:


  • #60
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    super_furry wrote: »
    You think that squables among friends are comparable with that kind of behaviour?
    You obviously haven't watched the show.


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  • #61
    Wile E. Coyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Wile E. Coyote


    Onixx wrote: »
    Death threats are death threats

    Death treats are death treats but in the world of twitter they're only deemed valid if made against a celebrity of some kind.


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