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Garda awarded third compensation award, latest for €300,000

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    Motorist wrote: »
    I work with a woman who has sued the employer on two separate occasions, as has another of her family members who also works there.
    The first words out of her mouth whenever something goes against her is "I'll sue the ar$e off them/him/her", even though she usually has absolutely no case. Shame some people carry on like this with such brass neck - the reality is if we all acted in a similar manner the compensation awards, law and the way business is done would have to be changed. Incidentally she is probably the worst worker there, and ironically takes the absolute pi$$.

    Although I think the case of this garda is slightly different in that the man lost his career and the causative injury he suffered was malicious and intended. It would be interesting to see the details of his previous awards.

    And finally, I never did understand how Martin Cullens advisor, Monica Leech , got 1.9 million considering she didnt even suffer any physical injury. As she brazenly said on Matt Cooper after the award would allow her "to walk another mile". Indeed.

    the name (appropriately emboldened) is a giveaway.
    LEECH = PARASITE

    Definition= a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Bambi wrote: »
    Over 11 years he would have seen a lot of medical professionals picked by legal professionals all of whom know a lot about playing the game and getting the right results in court. Cos if there's one thing I've learned about gardai its that their legal representation is top notch and they have no problems dragging a case on for years to get the right result.

    the guy got one punch in the head off a single guy in a police station full of coppers. If he can't handle that then he had no business being in that profession. It's like a butcher demanding compensation because he realised that he can't stand the sight of blood

    I have not seen enough info on this tread to give me a full picture. Part of his loss of standing in the community is down to people in his community taking the same attitude as people that he is a waster imo. It is harder to get people to come forward for tx for PTSD as it is joked about and the seen as a sign of weakness. Real men don't need tx BS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Why isn't this 300,000 being paid for by the guy who did the punching?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Motorist


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Why isn't this 300,000 being paid for by the guy who did the punching?

    If he gave up all of his social welfare payments, it would take him well over a 100 years. In any case, it's still the State that is paying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    Sure the ex cop is living it up he must have got good pay outs on the other 2 cases too.

    Amazing to see this sort of money been given for that, would understand if a knife, syringe or gun shot or something like that had been inflicted.

    I've been hit more then 1 box in my time and the rest and have never and even if looked for it would I get any money. Ireland seems to have copied the US with all this I'll sue you crap...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Motorist


    Ive been injured a few times including at work through no fault of my own. If I'd suffered lasting injuries and had medical bills, physiotherapy, etc, I'd look for compensation. Any of my injuries never lasted more than a few days though and I'd have no inclination to invent lasting distress like many malingering patients who will lie to doctors exaggerating their injuries, etc. Anything for a quick buck.

    A friend of mine's brother has sued Dublin City Council 5 times. He's a very accident prone fellow who seems to have the misfortune of suffering from frequent falls, etc.

    Although as I said, sometimes cases are very genuine. I have in mind that of a two-year old girl who had the misfortune of entering a toy shop. A bike fell near her which caused severe emotional distress. She was (I presume her family took the case) awarded €10,000 plus costs. http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/girl-awarded-10000-for-trauma-suffered-when-bike-fell-near-her-488904.html

    People should realise this next time they are complaining about retailer rip-off prices, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    Sure the artical says he had PTS, Thats not exactly a walk in the park to live with or get over. But he was a guard and they are trained to cope with their work environment ( id assume) I dont understand how he can be compensated for a box to the head, surely getting into physical altercations would be considered a high probability.

    Its not as if he was working in tesco and got a box in the head.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Motorist


    Lone Stone wrote: »
    Sure the artical says he had PTS, Thats not exactly a walk in the park to live with or get over. But he was a guard and they are trained to cope with their work environment ( id assume) I dont understand how he can be compensated for a box to the head, surely getting into physical altercations would be considered a high probability.

    Its not as if he was working in tesco and got a box in the head.

    I kinda see what you're saying but I think you over estimate garda training. They're just regular people doing a job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    If he had to leave his position with the force due to picking up injuries whilst on duty, then surely he is entitled to a full pension, right?

    How much was he awarded in his last two court claims?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 garstoney


    I have no problem understanding why a court would order a large payout to a genuine sufferer of PTSD.

    I do have a major problem, however, when a court makes an order to pay one member of society, who no doubt has taken early retirement on poor health grounds and, as such, receives approximately two thirds of his salary and would have substantial pension rights, but then the same court fails to recognise the same PTSD in someone else and awards a far, far lesser amount for the same injury and same prognosis for the sufferer.

    PTSD is a serious and debilitating condition and ought to yield a high compensation award, but for ALL sufferers, not just the old boy network.

    It appears that some are more equal than others.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Topper Harley


    Sure the ex cop is living it up he must have got good pay outs on the other 2 cases too.

    Do you know this as a matter of fact or are you just making wild assumptions?

    Most people who receive large compensation payouts would much rather give up the money and have not suffered any injury.

    Yes, there are scammers and they are scum who are effectively putting their greedy hands in our pockets but in this ex-Garda's case, we just aren't well enough informed to really know one way or the other whether his PTSD is genuine or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Topper Harley


    garstoney wrote: »
    I have no problem understanding why a court would order a large payout to a genuine sufferer of PTSD.

    I do have a major problem, however, when a court makes an order to pay one member of society, who no doubt has taken early retirement on poor health grounds and, as such, receives approximately two thirds of his salary and would have substantial pension rights, but then the same court fails to recognise the same PTSD in someone else and awards a far, far lesser amount for the same injury and same prognosis for the sufferer.

    PTSD is a serious and debilitating condition and ought to yield a high compensation award, but for ALL sufferers, not just the old boy network.

    It appears that some are more equal than others.

    I agree with you there but I'm not aware of the case you're referring to. Any chance of a link?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Is it not a risk you take on board when you join the Gardai? There's no room for shrinking violets in the police force, the man should have reacted to the attack forcefully and issued a beatdown, LAPD style.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭uberalles


    I got bitten by an ant today. Can I sue the person who's garden it was in ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Odysseus wrote: »
    I have treated lads who have been to war and had some very soul destroying experiences, however they where still awarded medals for their courage. I know one ex-para who has to take valium before he gets on a plane. Should these guys not have joined up? Are they **** soliders because they suffer from PTSD? Should Lizzie take her medals back because their experience effected them?

    The difference here is that they went to war and saw stuff like dead children and their friends being blown up.

    This guy got punched by a skanger. Once. And all he got is a black eye. Which healed. But he's claiming PTSD.

    Honestly I think it was a guy who hated his job and saw a nice comfy way out of it. He's probably sunning himself in spain before he comes back to a nice cushty job that his mates got him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    I can only hope it was a good old hard box he got.


    Fcuking pussy it is no wonder no one respects the cops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Colmustard wrote: »
    3 claims he sounds like a compo hound, I know a few. None of them ever deserve them.

    Oh Christ - Won't be long before the rest of the Gardaí swap the overtime swindling for the multiple compo career - no hope for us now.

    - At least if they're busy filling out forms and making things up they'll have less time to be harassing the taxpayer and handing out motoring fines while they avoid actual criminals, the new weekly occurrence of randomly knocking people down, breaking into houses and locking people in their own bathrooms, breaking into old peoples homes and robbing them - just open a newspaper next week for the next instalment of cringeworthy Garda stories :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭mongdesade


    Umaro wrote: »
    Well he was assaulted twice before in the course of duty, and each time he returned to his job.

    I highly doubt he just wandered around every day waiting for a criminal to attack him so he could potentially have a big payday.

    Its easy to slate him from behind the comfort of your keyboard, I wonder how many people here would keep going back to a job where people physically attacked you regularly and the general public's reaction was to call you a "fcking chancer" and a "compo hound" for requesting the compensation you're fully entitled to claim.

    FFS...I've been in the security industry for 20+ years...in that time I've been stabbed, stuck with needles, spat on by HIV+ junkies & assaulted while leaving my workplace & not a single € in compo.

    I go back to my job every day because I need to earn a living...this Gárda should man the fúck up & grow a pair IMHO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Line up gents

    I'll take a punch off any of you for 300,000

    It will hurt but it will be worth it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Line up gents

    I'll take a punch off any of you for 300,000

    It will hurt but it will be worth it

    Will you take a punch of a silverback for a little more?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    The unfairness of the compensation system stinks - if a member of the public intervened to help a Garda being assaulted and got the shyte kicked out of them they would not get a tiny fraction of the award a garda would get ( if they got a penny at all ) - where is the difference ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Was he punched by Mike Tyson?

    Looking at your username, I would put you amongst the prime suspects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Head The Wall


    lost the career he fought so hard to get into

    What a joke, what fighting did he do? Isn't it just a case of sitting an aptitude test, interview and a medical. Sounds no different to a Mcdonalds or Tesco Job
    Motorist wrote: »
    I kinda see what you're saying but I think you over estimate garda training. They're just regular people doing a job.

    A bunch of useless muppets most of them, One of the traffic corps was looking at my tachograph one day and asked why I had written on the back of it. I had to explain to the thick sh1t what happens when you drive two different trucks in one day. How he could not have known a basic fact of the job surprised me, I know a lot of them are thickos but this took the piss.

    It's no wonder people have no respect for them with crap like this, as someone else pointed out they are up their with those eejits wearing ear muffs during gun salutes. I can't say I have ever seen any other country of armed forces do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Topper Harley


    What a joke, what fighting did he do? Isn't it just a case of sitting an aptitude test, interview and a medical. Sounds no different to a Mcdonalds or Tesco Job

    A bunch of useless muppets most of them, One of the traffic corps was looking at my tachograph one day and asked why I had written on the back of it. I had to explain to the thick sh1t what happens when you drive two different trucks in one day. How he could not have known a basic fact of the job surprised me, I know a lot of them are thickos but this took the piss.

    It's no wonder people have no respect for them with crap like this, as someone else pointed out they are up their with those eejits wearing ear muffs during gun salutes. I can't say I have ever seen any other country of armed forces do that.

    So has this thread officially descended into a Garda bashing thread now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭Zab


    A bunch of useless muppets most of them, One of the traffic corps was looking at my tachograph one day and asked why I had written on the back of it. I had to explain to the thick sh1t what happens when you drive two different trucks in one day. How he could not have known a basic fact of the job surprised me, I know a lot of them are thickos but this took the piss.

    Explain this to me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    I would happily take multiple punches from Mike Tyson if it meant I was gonna get 300k handed to me.

    Such a bizarre country, no wonder Europe thinks so little of us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Mr Jinx


    What a joke, what fighting did he do? Isn't it just a case of sitting an aptitude test, interview and a medical. Sounds no different to a Mcdonalds or Tesco Job



    A bunch of useless muppets most of them, One of the traffic corps was looking at my tachograph one day and asked why I had written on the back of it. I had to explain to the thick sh1t what happens when you drive two different trucks in one day. How he could not have known a basic fact of the job surprised me, I know a lot of them are thickos but this took the piss.

    It's no wonder people have no respect for them with crap like this, as someone else pointed out they are up their with those eejits wearing ear muffs during gun salutes. I can't say I have ever seen any other country of armed forces do that.

    What did the guy who too thick to become a Garda do?
    became a truck driver.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,329 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    Why is it that every thread about the Guards has to descend in to a bashing thread. I would guess most people on here would have maybe dealt with a maximum of a handful of guards in their life, yet they generalise that all Guards are lazy, clueless and unqualified to do their jobs? Nice generalisations there, considering they are an organisation of 14,000 people working there at a time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    What a joke, what fighting did he do? Isn't it just a case of sitting an aptitude test, interview and a medical. Sounds no different to a Mcdonalds or Tesco Job



    A bunch of useless muppets most of them, One of the traffic corps was looking at my tachograph one day and asked why I had written on the back of it. I had to explain to the thick sh1t what happens when you drive two different trucks in one day. How he could not have known a basic fact of the job surprised me, I know a lot of them are thickos but this took the piss.

    It's no wonder people have no respect for them with crap like this, as someone else pointed out they are up their with those eejits wearing ear muffs during gun salutes. I can't say I have ever seen any other country of armed forces do that.
    About eight or nine years ago i was working early on a weekend morning when a Garda car parked up outside my job and four cops jumped from the car and asked me what i was doing at that early hour. When i explained i was starting work they all went back to their car only to find they had managed to lock themselves out of it.:D

    First born farmers sons and daughters and as thick as cow sh1t on a warm day sums up the majority of the Garda.


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